NongKhaiKid Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Jonathan Head on the BBC is saying the BIB are not speculating and are downplaying any suggestion of international terrorism or links to the problems in the south. Good on the BIB but they don't have to worry about speculation as the Boss and a DPM are doing that for them. I wonder if Prawit is ever so slightly worried since this falls within his purview and he won't want to be linked with any sort of failure. The word ' responsibility ' doesn't really come into it as it's not applicable here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 23 minutes ago, MaxLee said: In other words, Mr. You know-who must know more than the public are being fed upon,..... Nope. Everything that could be bad for tourism disappears under the carpet, including terrorism, balcony accidents, drug overdoses and other stuff. Thailand is such a safe place for quality tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 31 minutes ago, Hawk said: History and economics. So, Historically there have been bombs going off on or around the Queens birthday in tourist areas over the past x amount of years? I'd like to see some facts that would support your claim, if there has been attacks on this day, depending on the lcations, there's a pattern to look into. It would be telling the authorites to look Southwards instead of towards the North East would you not agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, harada said: Perhaps if they were to snap out of retribution mode and onto reconciliation things just might take a turn for the better. Hardly likely given that they have a "take no prisoners" approach to things. They would not ever let the people who tore up their ballots go. What a heinous crime. They have become the flavor of the month to be flogged and hung out for all and sundry to see. Edited August 12, 2016 by elgordo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Holy Cinema said: So, Historically there have been bombs going off on or around the Queens birthday in tourist areas over the past x amount of years? I'd like to see some facts that would support your claim, if there has been attacks on this day, depending on the lcations, there's a pattern to look into. It would be telling the authorites to look Southwards instead of towards the North East would you not agree? I was not referring to bombs at all, you are simply twisting my words, in "based on what" I was talking about politics and economics nothing else. And as you well know, bombs have not been going off on previous Queen's birthdays so why even suggest it. Edited August 12, 2016 by Hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hawk said: I was not referring to bombs at all, you are simply twisting my words, in "based on what" I was talking about politics and economics nothing else. And as you well know, bombs have not been going off on previous Queen's birthdays so why even suggest it. because that's what you did right here. You're inferring that the bombings are related. Quote The timing is about the lady whose birthday it is today and about her support for Prayut. Economically tourism is one of Thailand's last stands, destroy that and Prayut's power will crumble and then the discontent will mount. Edited August 12, 2016 by Holy Cinema Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 No problem dear PM. Please tell this to victim's families also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, Hawk said: I was not referring to bombs at all, you are simply twisting my words, in "based on what" I was talking about politics and economics nothing else. And as you well know, bombs have not been going off on previous Queen's birthdays so why even suggest it. My wife was talking about a bomb on mothers day 2015. Saying it has happend on mothers day before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, Holy Cinema said: because that's what you did right here. You're inferring that the bombings are related. Yes, but only to today's events as we are talking about what happened today. I wrote the word today didn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 The act is sensational no getting away from that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Just now, Hawk said: Yes, but only to today's events as we are talking about what happened today. I wrote the word today didn't I? Nice try, you clearly wrote"the timing is about the lady whose birthday it is today, and her support for Prayuth" The timing is about the lady, not the occasion, the lady is what you've inferred, followed up with and her support for Prayuth. You're clearly making a connection between 2 out of the 3, but are making it about the occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 3 hours ago, djjamie said: Wise words. At least he didn't shirk his responsibilities and hide up north when things heated up and tell them this from his Facebook page. The timing is certainly an indication that the violent minority being bitter about record tourist numbers as indicated by offical 3rd party entity figures is at work again to main, kill and create fear amongst their own people. Who can really blame the majority for voting for this charter after witnessing what this violent group is willing to do. If they had the vote again it would no doubt be a lot higher result for the charter. Well done Prayut for standing up and speaking to the people. I think you need to look a bit beyond the results of the actual referendum jamie. Consider what went on in the months and weeks leading up to it? The low level,constant and insidious detentions, intimidation and coerced signing of vaguely worded documents to silence those who spoke out about the charter and the direction of the country; civilians being tried in military courts, the press constantly under attack by the government with threats to remove editors who didn't tow the proverbial line. Certainly it can be well argued that this government has created a climate of fear among its own people, the same climate of fear that the red shirts sought to impose on their opponents, just achieved in a different way. Neither is acceptable. Against a back drop where people voices have been muzzled and the views of their leaders, be it a politician, academic or village headmen have be deliberately and systematically dismissed and silenced, there are very few options left to demonstrate their anger and dis-satisfaction. Only two days ago the deputy PM stated that political gatherings will be allowed "just before elections and no sooner". Is that fair or is the PM and government just another version of PTP/TRT - using favorable laws and government apparatus to stifle the opposition until it is too late, before sweeping to victory? Fair, open, honest, just? You decide. I thought Prayut was better than that and not afraid to tackle his opponents on a level playing field. I cannot condone these actions in any sense; terrorism, murder and maiming are abhorrent, but the government has to let its people speak otherwise if this is politically motivated, as the PM suggests,elements of the people may feel they have no other choice to make their voice heard than by committing these atrocities. A sad day for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Holy Cinema said: Nice try, you clearly wrote"the timing is about the lady whose birthday it is today, and her support for Prayuth" The timing is about the lady, not the occasion, the lady is what you've inferred, followed up with and her support for Prayuth. You're clearly making a connection between 2 out of the 3, but are making it about the occasion So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 2 hours ago, JAG said: He doesn't do Irony. He really believes what he spouts. Extraordinary isn't it? Not really. He's a shill. Where'd EnglishJohn go BTW? I miss him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 How can you not call the amount of devices that went off all over the South causing death and injury an act of Terrorism. How can you not class this also, as a sensational series of coordinated attacks? How can you downplay this when there's fatalities and serious injuries? Anywhere else in the world where such coordination took place, the press would be treating it the same, but here, it's Thainess, and very disingenuous to the dead and injured by saying this isn't an act of terror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Exactly how do you not sensationalise 8 bomb attacks across a series of tourist destinations in 24 hours on the eve of a major holiday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Just now, Bluespunk said: Exactly how do you not sensationalise 8 bomb attacks across a series of tourist destinations in 24 hours on the eve of a major holiday? I'd be more accurate and say all in under 12 hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapson Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 3 hours ago, canopus1969 said: urged the media not to sensationalize the spate of bomb attacks The Sun would never do that https://www.thesun.co.uk/ Unless the Sun has staged the photos it seems a far more in depth report than the offerings on here with more information about Phuket than available in the filtered content we access. Funny how photos of smiling policemen pointing at the heinous criminal mastermind apprehended ,guilty of opening a bar a bit late and supplying booze and willing girls to happy punters............so rapidly all over the Thai media.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Never CM. NEVER Pattaya. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 27 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Exactly how do you not sensationalise 8 bomb attacks across a series of tourist destinations in 24 hours on the eve of a major holiday? It's the same rational where one of your national airlines crash lands and the immediate reaction is to paint over the logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0000 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 21 minutes ago, dageurreotype said: Never CM. NEVER Pattaya. Why? There was a bomb in Chiang Mai in 2007, as for Pattaya, perhaps lack of significance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VN4now Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Holy Cinema said: not really, this is the man who kept spouting off about the 15 pillars of democracy and the fact the PTP didn't use them, but fails to see the Junta knocked these pillars down and made a park out of them!! Yes. condolences to the families. Prayuth needs to understand though, you reap what you sow. If you take over a country with military, then stifle any democratic dissent/free speech; this should sadly not come as a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0000 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Would a headline such as "Thailand under siege" constitute sensationalism? Considering that a siege is an operation whereby the target is surrounded and considering this clearly has not been the case in this instance I can only suppose that it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jspill Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 'He also urged Thai people to stay calm, not to be over panic and to strive to become a good host for foreign tourists.' Lol is literally everything about tourist dollars in this place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 6 hours ago, djjamie said: Wise words. At least he didn't shirk his responsibilities and hide up north when things heated up and tell them this from his Facebook page. The timing is certainly an indication that the violent minority being bitter about record tourist numbers as indicated by offical 3rd party entity figures is at work again to main, kill and create fear amongst their own people. Who can really blame the majority for voting for this charter after witnessing what this violent group is willing to do. If they had the vote again it would no doubt be a lot higher result for the charter. Well done Prayut for standing up and speaking to the people. Wise words indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Exactly how do you not sensationalise 8 bomb attacks across a series of tourist destinations in 24 hours on the eve of a major holiday? The stable door can be shut now, the horse has well and truly bolted and is international news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 So it is the media's fault not the gummits fault that people feel in danger of their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Too many threads, this needs to be united under one heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Off Topic / Flaming / Bickering posts Removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish monger Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Not to worry yourself Prayut....The Western news groups have everything under control....The story is everywhere..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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