Drunk old men

[lostinisaan]

Not only drunks but continually either drunk or “hungover” - which to them is a joke....they have no idea how it looks to those of us standing with our feet firmly in reality

 

Fondling young prostitutes in public - and thinking that is not risible - , attempting to dance and sing to ancient pop songs played by jaded Philippine crooners.

 

Singing - I use the term loosely - involves a combination of vibrato grunts and off key howls, but the dancing....oh that dancing - unable to flex their spines or any other part of their bodies rhythmically anymore, dancing is reduced to a screwed up red face and flailing arms in what the perpetrator considers to be in time with the music - evidently not the music that is being played though.

 

  A vibrator could be the reason for a false bomb alert, that's true, mate. 

[lostinisaan]

3 hours ago, chiang mai said:

 

As opposed to the younger men who have lots else to do but instead choose to get hammered to oblivion. They are living the dream, for the moment, puffing away on their future wife who is barely over 21 years of age. 

 

They stumble home with their rental/freebie and act surprised when, after several months they invariably are hooked and wind up moving to Thailand to marry - divorce and loss of all funds typically follows.

 

Many feel they have to make up for past rejections back home, an inadequate supply of nubile wenches where they live or rotting in past marriages/working like dogs to retire somewhere nice but mostly, many do it because they're desperately sad, broken, lacking direction, unemployable, broke inside.

 

You see how dangerous it is to generalize and attack older people, just for what you perceive their lifestyle to be!

 

 

 I beg your pardon, Sir. Where do you meet these characters? Why do I not see those people?

 

    I guess you know the answer. because i don't hang out where you- obviously- do.- 

[JHolmesJr]

I drink huge amounts when in pattaya and on the prowl…..and you could never tell I am hammered.

[StreetCowboy]

I love being able to feel superior to others as well.

 

Personally, I don't find other people's opinion of my drinking very helpful, especially when it is presented in such pejorative terms. I don't think you're doing anyone any favours.

 

SC 

[lostinisaan]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Unfortunately, there is an increasing trend on Thai Visa for this to happen.

 

Is it strange (may be it isn't) that 'younger' posters wish to savage their elders for pretty much doing what they are doing.

 

I don't think that as I reach my 60's I am becoming more sensitive - quite the opposite in fact, if anything I am becoming thicker skinned. I certainly don't envy the 'youngsters'. I have had my youth and it is now a pleasant memory - do I wish I was still 25 or 30 ? No way!  You can't turn the clock back, nor should you even try.

 

Occasionally, someone will ask "what was the best time of your life?".  I always answer that ,whilst I have some great memories of the 70's, 80's, 90's etc, the best time of my life is NOW. If you can't say that then perhaps you need to look at your life and make some changes.

 

Having completed my career, having been involved in businesses - some did well, some failed - I now find myself answerable to no one. I have relative financial security and tomorrow I can go where I want and do what I want. What will I do?  Probably cut the grass tomorrow and then go and see a friend for coffee. Relax in the afternoon, shuffle some papers and do some minor jobs and maybe take a nap. Early evening I might have a beer - I won't need to have a beer but I might just have one; if the first goes down well I might have 2 or 3 - if the missus joins me we might share 4 or 5. Most likely we won't; we are more likely to have a  couple of soda waters whilst having baked salmon and vegetables.

 

When I was younger I felt I HAD to drink. No way was I alcoholic but having a drink went the pressure (positive and negative) of the job and also that good old lure of socialising. Many a time a quick drink after work turned into a session. They were great times but as an earlier poster mentioned that level of drinking was part of the culture. Did everyone do it? No, but many, many did.

 

Now, I have a drink when I really want one. The calorie content is a major consideration for me so I invariably turn to the soda first and save the alcohol for the times you really want to have some out of positive choice rather than habit.

 

As for the 'sex' side of things goes I see no reason for false envy (or whatever motivation they have) from some youngsters. Yes, at 60 I am grateful to have the regular company of someone 20 years younger than me - something that would not be possible in my home country. Should I wish  to enjoy the variety that is available in this country I can head to Pattaya (or many other places) where a phone call to a 30 year old will yield even younger pleasures of the flesh.

 

To those 'youngsters' who deride those of us who are older, for enjoying these pleasures, I would just remind them that it will not be long before they are looking back as we 'oldies' are doing now and I recommend that they make the most of their lives NOW rather than wasting time looking at the lives of others.

 

 

 

 

          Occasionally, someone will ask "what was the best time of your life?".  I always answer that ,whilst I have some great memories of the 70's, 80's, 90's etc, the best time of my life is NOW. If you can't say that then perhaps you need to look at your life and make some changes.

 

          Spot on. The youngsters don't even know what you're on about. I wouldn't like to miss one second of the time full of drugs, people having unprotected sex with plenty of others as there wasn't Aids and other strange diseases. 

 

 Rock n' Roll and the best music that was ever created and if manhood in a few thousand years still exists, they'll still listen to that music.

 

        Let the rappers rap, the dumbarsses fill their gap with a rat. I'm only a few years younger, but i really appreciate your post.

 

   People are strange from Jim comes to mind. 

 

         Keep smiling, dude/ mate/ buddy.-

[oxo1947]

Show me a man with both feet firmly on the ground, and I'll show you --
man who can't get his pants off............

 

You do come across as a complete Wowser......some of these guys have worked at a Sh1tty factory job for the last 40---50 years and been in an unhappy relationship to boot----let them enjoy their last few years, even if what they are doing may shorten that time.

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You have done something that has changed your life----fine----great go preach it somewhere else,........................Please...............

[lostinisaan]

 

6 minutes ago, oxo1947 said:

Show me a man with both feet firmly on the ground, and I'll show you --
man who can't get his pants off............

 

You do come across as a complete Wowser......some of these guys have worked at a Sh1tty factory job for the last 40---50 years and been in an unhappy relationship to boot----let them enjoy their last few years, even if what they are doing may shorten that time.

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You have done something that has changed your life----fine----great go preach it somewhere else,........................Please...............
 

 

   I do not know anybody who lives such a life the OP 's on about. How comes?

 

          Maybe just because I don't wanna hang out with such individuals?

 

    

[chiang mai]

4 hours ago, lostinisaan said:

 

 

 I beg your pardon, Sir. Where do you meet these characters? Why do I not see those people?

 

    I guess you know the answer. because i don't hang out where you- obviously- do.- 

 

You missed the point, my post was a reversal of subjects from the one before, a parody, it's purpose being to highlight that generalizations are ill advised, go take a look again.

[cumgranosalum]

12 hours ago, chiang mai said:

Au contraire! Seen versus imagined or perceived are very different things, a bit like having a survey to conclude nationally based on a sample of ten people.

Try deduction - it works better than all of that.

[cumgranosalum]

5 hours ago, chiang mai said:

 

You missed the point, my post was a reversal of subjects from the one before, a parody, it's purpose being to highlight that generalizations are ill advised, go take a look again.

No it isn't - you just don't get it.

[Rob13]

14 hours ago, cumgranosalum said:

I had no intention of joining them - something had to be done.

 

 

 

Always good to have someone to look down on.

[chiang mai]

7 minutes ago, cumgranosalum said:

Try deduction - it works better than all of that.

 

I trust what I see, I don't necessarily trust what you deduce, I think I speak for almost everyone on the planet in that respect.

 

And, I don't get it, you say. Sadly I do, you want to tell others how to behave, you want people to live by your standards, and only younger people are allowed to have too much to drink because they can recover quickly plus you seem to have "a thing" about older people.

[MissAndry]

11 hours ago, lostinisaan said:

 

  I do not know anybody who lives such a life the OP 's on about. How comes?

 

Probably because you are the only foreigner in the village and have no friends.

[Agent Sumo]

12 hours ago, lostinisaan said:

 

 

   I do not know anybody who lives such a life the OP 's on about. How comes?

 

          Maybe just because I don't wanna hang out with such individuals?

 

    

 

He didn't say he knew them - he said he's seen them.

 

If you haven't seen them, it's likely because you're tucked up in bed with a mug of hot chocolate by 7pm every night

[rogeroc]

For once i agree with you AS, should i be getting worried?

[lannarebirth]

14 hours ago, lostinisaan said:

 

 

   I do not know anybody who lives such a life the OP 's on about. How comes?

 

          Maybe just because I don't wanna hang out with such individuals?

 

    

 

In my ten years spent in Thailand I never saw any persons such as the OP describes. Except for Thai cops. Oh man, they are the very worst drunks I've ever seen, and with guns yet!

[Agent Sumo]

39 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

In my ten years spent in Thailand I never saw any persons such as the OP describes. Except for Thai cops. Oh man, they are the very worst drunks I've ever seen, and with guns yet!

 

Yeah, whatever bubble boy

 

Love these posters. They haven't seen anything so it just doesn't exist, right?

[Scotwight]

15 hours ago, oxo1947 said:

Show me a man with both feet firmly on the ground, and I'll show you --
man who can't get his pants off............

 

You do come across as a complete Wowser......some of these guys have worked at a Sh1tty factory job for the last 40---50 years and been in an unhappy relationship to boot----let them enjoy their last few years, even if what they are doing may shorten that time.

.

You have done something that has changed your life----fine----great go preach it somewhere else,........................Please...............
 

Since this is the I drink too much forum, I believe this is the place to preach and you and the five posters who liked your post are wack jobs.  Am I correct or did I miss something?

[ozzieovaseas]

In defense of these old guys i can think of a few points

-  They CAN afford to do what they do.(drink and play with Thai fillys)

-  They dont have to worry about being an English teacher and go through all the kow-towing that envolves.

-  They are actually INVITED to this country with a legit visa classification..dont have to worry about being a perpetual      tourist, illegal worker, poor English teacher, border runner.

 

Oh, and a lot of them i see are actually in better bodily shape than the younger ones

[oxo1947]

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Since this is the I drink too much forum, I believe this is the place to preach and you and the five posters who liked your post are wack jobs.  Am I correct or did I miss something? --Scotwight

 

 

No Scot....I am sure you have got it exactly right-----every ones a wack job except for you.....

[sanuk711]

-every ones a wack job except for you.....

 

The sad thing is, he believes it.

[Agent Sumo]

27 minutes ago, ozzieovaseas said:

In defense of these old guys i can think of a few points

-  They CAN afford to do what they do.(drink and play with Thai fillys)

-  They dont have to worry about being an English teacher and go through all the kow-towing that envolves.

-  They are actually INVITED to this country with a legit visa classification..dont have to worry about being a perpetual      tourist, illegal worker, poor English teacher, border runner.

 

Oh, and a lot of them i see are actually in better bodily shape than the younger ones

 

Oh really?

If they can afford to play with the fillies, why do so many of them complain about the rising price of a "short-time" then?

Why is there a collective howl of anguish among farang senior citizens when the price of a Western breakfast increases by 10 baht?

I sure don't hear younger guys whinging about the cost of a beer, a meal or a short time as much as the fixed income oldies

 

Most of the time, English teachers are working legally and are at least trying to do something positive for the country.

Pensioners aren't invited here - they're tolerated here.

You need to put the bottle down, grandpa. 

How often have you been to a party and had the host ask you to show your invite every hour?

[chiang mai]

This thread brings home to me just how different our two worlds are, semi rural northern Thailand and Pattaya, two complete opposites in every respect. I ask you, given that is true, how can two people, one from each location, possible ever hope to agree about anything regarding Thailand, neither has a clue what the other is actually talking about let alone seen anything of it to any great degree, in recent years (thankfully).

[Rob13]

5 hours ago, ozzieovaseas said:

In defense of these old guys i can think of a few points

 

 

 

So basically if you have a good visa and you're not broke, getting loaded  day in and day out is OK; fair enough,I guess.

[anotheruser]

I guess it is a place for the dry drunks to vent. 

[Johnniey]

On 8/28/2016 at 8:19 PM, rogeroc said:

I sort of agree with you Op and there are certainly some out and about in Chiang Mai as you describe. However look at the level of binge drinking (more of a youngsters pusuit) that exists for example in the UK. Binge drinking wasn't heard about when i first started visiting bars about 40 years ago.

 

In Chiang Mai the most unpleasant drunks i see (in terms of being rowdy, beng shirtless, swearing etc) are the young guys and girls walking to or coming out of the nighclub Spicy between 11.30 p.m and 01.30a.m. Nearly all of them seem to be completely wasted, they maybe recover quickly the next day but what about the next week the next month, the next years of their lives?

 

As MissAndry says why do we get so concerned about the way other people behave. In the past Year in CM i have only once had reason to feel the need to get away from an unpleasant drunk, He was nether young or old, definitely middle aged !

Binge drinking has been going on since man first  started crushing grapes. In Scotland 35 years ago I sure did it with many others.

[473geo]

Yep the old boys don't look too clever, the error here is the attempt to suggest young guys do it better!

 

Come on guys let us be honest here, there are some happy drunks, but as a general rule of thumb, unless they are in a similar state, most people prefer to avoid the company of drunks, young, or old, male or female. The exception being those that seek to profit.

 

'Pensioners aren't invited here - they're tolerated here'

 

Oh boy........and you think 'young' piss heads are not?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Scotwight]

8 hours ago, sanuk711 said:

-every ones a wack job except for you.....

 

The sad thing is, he believes it.

This is a forum to help people stop drinking and you are making fun of people who stop drinking.  Do you think that is appropriate or somehow fun?  Your inexcusable sense of humor might have prevented someone from getting help.  Alcohol harms more people in Thailand both Thai and Farang than anything else.  If you think all the death and pain and hardship caused by excessive drinking is a laughing matter - up to you-  

[Scotwight]

8 hours ago, Agent Sumo said:

Oh really?

If they can afford to play with the fillies, why do so many of them complain about the rising price of a "short-time" then?

Why is there a collective howl of anguish among farang senior citizens when the price of a Western breakfast increases by 10 baht?

I sure don't hear younger guys whinging about the cost of a beer, a meal or a short time as much as the fixed income oldies

 

Most of the time, English teachers are working legally and are at least trying to do something positive for the country.

Pensioners aren't invited here - they're tolerated here.

You need to put the bottle down, grandpa. 

How often have you been to a party and had the host ask you to show your invite every hour?

I would say that on the average - a retired guy spends an hour a year and 1900 baht with the Thai government to stay in Thailand.  Compared to the amount of paperwork to stay almost anywhere else that is a deal and I have to think retirement is encouraged by the Thai government.  

 

I've met many English teachers and only one with a work permit and none trying to do anything other than earn a living.  100% would have left the teaching profession if any - any- other work was available that required no experience or education.  

[Agent Sumo]

34 minutes ago, Scotwight said:

I would say that on the average - a retired guy spends an hour a year and 1900 baht with the Thai government to stay in Thailand.  Compared to the amount of paperwork to stay almost anywhere else that is a deal and I have to think retirement is encouraged by the Thai government.  

 

I've met many English teachers and only one with a work permit and none trying to do anything other than earn a living.  100% would have left the teaching profession if any - any- other work was available that required no experience or education.  

 

Oh and where do you live?