webfact Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Police chief says police reforms meet public demands BANGKOK, 30 August 2016 (NNT)-National Police Chief, Police General Chakthip Chaijinda has insisted that police reforms are line with public demands. Speaking during a weekly program ‘Thailand Moves Forward’, Pol Gen Chakthip revealed that he tasked Deputy Police Chief Pol Gen Pongsapat Pongcharoen with mobilizing the police reforms. He added that people will see results once the reforms are implemented. According to the Deputy Police Chief, the police reforms, which are public-oriented and focused on ensuring justice, will be carried out taking a top-down approach in three different stages. Urgent reforms will be completed in one year while those requiring more time are expected to be achieved in between five and twenty years. The implementation process will be overseen by ten groups of police officers who are knowledgeable about the reforms. To provide prompt police services, all 514 police stations in the country will have police inquiry officers working around the clock and a team of forensic experts on standby to collect evidence in cases where a crime is reported. -- nnt 2016-08-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryle Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 20 years... no need to rush rocking the boat [emoji57] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 "Urgent reforms will be completed in one year while those requiring more time are expected to be achieved in between five and twenty years." For sure, everyone I have ever spoken to about the police expects reforms to take at least 20 years. Although some Police officers used the phrase "over my dead body." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingalfred Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 5-20!years haha. Just as well say. "We decide what reforms and when "Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 The police reforms may meet public demands, but will the results meet public expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 20 years, 3 stages, 10 groups of reform leaders ...... BS thru and thru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNPBC0 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 What exactly are the reforms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chookie Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Public demands reform in 4 - 20 years? I think I don't quite believe... Chook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 So according to the statement it should be possible to produce a list of the public's demanded reforms, the actions to be taken to carry out those reforms and a road map showing a timeline for implementation? Perhaps the senior officer who must've been appointed as project manager could make that chart available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chookie Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: So according to the statement it should be possible to produce a list of the public's demanded reforms, the actions to be taken to carry out those reforms and a road map showing a timeline for implementation? Perhaps the senior officer who must've been appointed as project manager could make that chart available? erm. what a chart? Chook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 5 hours ago, kingalfred said: 5-20!years haha. Just as well say. "We decide what reforms and when " Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect I should live so long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I think they need to reform the reform process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 And just how could he know what "public demands" might be? Criticism not allowed, public protests not allowed..... are public demands written on notes slipped under doors at police station while cops taking naps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, ALLSEEINGEYE said: I think they need to reform the reform process. The reform process should start with the appointment of a Royal Commission on Police Reform chaired by the PM and consist of judiciary, NGOs, private enterprises representatives besides the police. They will be responsible to set up a Task Force to implement key reforms. An Implementation Committee will handle the key reforms implementation. It seem that the Police Chief is really not serious in the reform and only gave a half hearted attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: The reform process should start with the appointment of a Royal Commission on Police Reform chaired by the PM and consist of judiciary, NGOs, private enterprises representatives besides the police. They will be responsible to set up a Task Force to implement key reforms. An Implementation Committee will handle the key reforms implementation. It seem that the Police Chief is really not serious in the reform and only gave a half hearted attempt. You forgot steering committees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 "Urgent reforms will be completed in one year while those requiring more time are expected to be achieved in between five and twenty years. " Urgent reforms are new pay rises. The other reforms such as stopping corruption etc will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatproblem Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 The public wants what the public gets ,ain't that a line in The Jams ,going undergroud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 7 hours ago, DNPBC0 said: What exactly are the reforms? excellent question. best not to tell us or we will be able to say it has been a failure 4 to 20 years down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sujoop Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Long way to go but at least a we bit better than say when Thaksin appointed his brother in law as head of Police and CHALERM as 'Justice Minister' (and uncle as head of the armed forces for the trifecta, or ''autoocratic coup' in effect) Personally would section 44 the lot, then have the cops re-apply for their positions based on merit, retraining for those who don't pass muster, sacking for any who then do not make the grade, then give pay rises in increments based on review and merit going forward. Edited August 30, 2016 by sujoop SP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 There's never been a display of "public demands" for police reforms.....not that I've heard of anyway.......it's a figment of the police leaders imaginations, and only making noise about to encourage the people to believe in them. Nothing materiel will eventuate. It goes right down to the guy that won the bid for a more senior position in the RTP...paid the fare ( ~1.6m) but didn't get the position...he sued...well tried to, but they kicked it out! ......indicating it's usual protocol to advance this way.......as with most public service enterprises. Police reforms here in Thailand.....and of course, other SE Nations, that will eventuate in a more efficient force, will not be permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 The worst operations globally. The most despicable group of public officers I have ever encountered. Asking Thais to pay them to do there jobs. Apart from that opportunity snipers chasing scooters for cash. I find you a disgrace and the current regime allows it. A terrible group that needs a election. Who cares about army senate. Waste of time untrained and not viable. You can read international news RTP or are you blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chookie Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said: There's never been a display of "public demands" for police reforms.....not that I've heard of anyway.......it's a figment of the police leaders imaginations, and only making noise about to encourage the people to believe in them. Nothing materiel will eventuate. It goes right down to the guy that won the bid for a more senior position in the RTP...paid the fare ( ~1.6m) but didn't get the position...he sued...well tried to, but they kicked it out! ......indicating it's usual protocol to advance this way.......as with most public service enterprises. Police reforms here in Thailand.....and of course, other SE Nations, that will eventuate in a more efficient force, will not be permitted. The trick is to sell the BS that reforms of any kind are being managed. Negotiate what the word 'reforms' actually means later. Things are endlessly flexible, endlessly negotiable. Chook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Personally I like that your force is useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish monger Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) 20 years.....? Someone needs to be reformed. Edited August 31, 2016 by fish monger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Reforms meet public demands ? Oh yes I'm sure they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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