Police union: Officers may boycott 49ers over Kaepernick

[SheungWan]

For all that the 49ers were rolled over by the Panthers 27-46. Record in 2015, 5-11. In short, rubbish team.

[watcharacters]

6 hours ago, SheungWan said:

For all that the 49ers were rolled over by the Panthers 27-46. Record in 2015, 5-11. In short, rubbish team.

 

 

How is the teams performance germane to the thread topic?

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

How is the teams performance germane to the thread topic?

Especially away from home, when the police officers at strike are not present anyway.

 

But again, was there any effect on the police present in the first week, when they did play at home?

[ClutchClark]

3 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

How is the teams performance germane to the thread topic?

 

Sports Athletes are hired to play ball. 

 

They are not hired to be political spokespeople.

 

Kaps little escapade has brought unwanted attention, good and bad, to their team and disrupted the FOCUS which is to play ball.

 

A great rule to follow in the workplace--avoid conversations of religion and politics.

[Pakboong]

I don't necessarily like this law but there are many laws I do not like!

[Jingthing]

I like that ruling.

Freedom to stand. Freedom to not stand.

 

[JetsetBkk]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I like that ruling.

Freedom to stand. Freedom to not stand.

 

 

And freedom of speech:

 

 

[PTC]

1 hour ago, JetsetBkk said:

 

And freedom of speech:

 

 

 

Certainly can't get more white than that.

[SheungWan]

Just now, PTC said:

 

Certainly can't get more white than that.

 

I guess you don't like blondes with opinions.

[Pimay1]

7 minutes ago, PTC said:

 

Certainly can't get more white than that.

And your point is?

[PTC]

20 minutes ago, Pimay1 said:

And your point is?

 

One day, if you think long and hard enough, you might get it.

 

I sincerely believe that you never will.

[Pimay1]

1 hour ago, PTC said:

 

One day, if you think long and hard enough, you might get it.

 

I sincerely believe that you never will.

I get one thing for sure. Someone is a bigot and it isn't me.

[JemJem]

The world needs more of principled sports players (and people in general) like Kaepernick.

The guy has received some negative responses from some circles; but overall, freedom of expression has fortunately won in the US once again.

If this sort of thing happened in some countries around the world (we can pretty much guess which ones those are), that player would sadly be kicked from his/her team and his/her sporting career would be severely affected in a negative way.

[PTC]

48 minutes ago, Pimay1 said:

I get one thing for sure. Someone is a bigot and it isn't me.

 

"Whiteness and America have always been kept synonymous, conjoined, fiercely paired. Attempts to problematize that marriage — to open it up and show whom it excludes — are reliably met with fear and resistance. New expressions of patriotism always make certain white people fear that a wedge is being driven between them and their America — whether by Muhammad Ali’s refusal to be inducted into the Army, or by Black Lives Matter, or by a backup quarterback for the 49ers. The fear is almost as old as the nation. Sometimes it feels as if the fear is the nation."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/magazine/who-gets-to-be-called-a-patriot.html?_r=0

 

I guess your guns help you embrace your fear.

 

Meanwhile, citizens will continue to go about their daily lives without the need for expressing outrage if one of the minorities express their view.

 

Seems like Little Princess could not contain her fear so she presumes to instruct others in how to be a Patriot. Very white of her.

[Pimay1]

12 hours ago, PTC said:

 

"Whiteness and America have always been kept synonymous, conjoined, fiercely paired. Attempts to problematize that marriage — to open it up and show whom it excludes — are reliably met with fear and resistance. New expressions of patriotism always make certain white people fear that a wedge is being driven between them and their America — whether by Muhammad Ali’s refusal to be inducted into the Army, or by Black Lives Matter, or by a backup quarterback for the 49ers. The fear is almost as old as the nation. Sometimes it feels as if the fear is the nation."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/magazine/who-gets-to-be-called-a-patriot.html?_r=0

 

I guess your guns help you embrace your fear.

 

Meanwhile, citizens will continue to go about their daily lives without the need for expressing outrage if one of the minorities express their view.

 

Seems like Little Princess could not contain her fear so she presumes to instruct others in how to be a Patriot. Very white of her.

Typical.

[vaultdweller0013]

 

18 hours ago, PTC said:

 

Certainly can't get more white than that.

 

18 hours ago, Pimay1 said:

And your point is?

 

The point is that a lot a white people have a total lack of empathy when it comes to understanding the difficulties and challenges that face minority communities. In particular, the lasting effects of past discrimination. Remember, until 50 odds years ago discrimination in parts of the US was protected and enforced by law. Even after this, there continued to exist de-facto discrimination. Even in the 90's interracial marriage was only considered acceptable by about half of society. We could also look at the differences in penalties for crack cocaine vs. powdered, which disproportionately effected blacks, and was only changed in 2010. Most recently, the courts threw out a voter ID law in NC because it was very clearly designed to disenfranchise black voters (and not to protect the integrity of elections, as claimed). There are many of these types of issues that mean that it isn't just a simple case of "black people need to fix their communities and are themselves totally responsible for any problems". Even if we work under the assumption that all discrimination is eliminated today, the legacy still continues; despite being touted as the land of opportunity, the biggest predictor of ones economic and social status is that of one's parents.

 

[PTC]

19 minutes ago, vaultdweller0013 said:

 

 

 

The point is that a lot a white people have a total lack of empathy when it comes to understanding the difficulties and challenges that face minority communities. In particular, the lasting effects of past discrimination. Remember, until 50 odds years ago discrimination in parts of the US was protected and enforced by law. Even after this, there continued to exist de-facto discrimination. Even in the 90's interracial marriage was only considered acceptable by about half of society. We could also look at the differences in penalties for crack cocaine vs. powdered, which disproportionately effected blacks, and was only changed in 2010. Most recently, the courts threw out a voter ID law in NC because it was very clearly designed to disenfranchise black voters (and not to protect the integrity of elections, as claimed). There are many of these types of issues that mean that it isn't just a simple case of "black people need to fix their communities and are themselves totally responsible for any problems". Even if we work under the assumption that all discrimination is eliminated today, the legacy still continues; despite being touted as the land of opportunity, the biggest predictor of ones economic and social status is that of one's parents.

 

 

Reason, logic and facts do not work on the Alt Right Pro 2A crowd. To them minorities and poor people are 'takers'. African Americans are thugs and the cause of their own poverty and violence. The Law Enforcement Officers sit at the right hand of God and can never be questioned or criticized. The petty rituals of their childhood must be maintained by all persons to constantly demonstrate their patriotism. Multiculturalism is bad. Respect for diversity is immoral and not consistent with God's law - or at least what they remember from Sunday School.

 

Absolutely no reasoning with these people at all. They used to be marginalized and too embarrassed to come out of the closet. Trump has changed this. He is the icon of the Alt Right. He is their Diety who washes away their sin of exclusivity, divisiveness and bigotry.

 

The national police union just came out in support of Trump.

 

Typical.

[Skywalker69]

Cue conservatives who preach freedom, the Constitution, and who call themselves patriots getting upset about people exercising their freedoms. 

[impulse]

I'm boycotting NFL football.  Been doing it for over 50 years.

 

I've almost got them to their knees.

 

 

[DM07]

Is that the same police- force, that just shut another unarmed, innocent black man?

Man up you #$@!& and live with well deserved criticism!

Land of the free, my @$$!

[Pimay1]

15 hours ago, DM07 said:

Is that the same police- force, that just shut another unarmed, innocent black man?

Man up you #$@!& and live with well deserved criticism!

Land of the free, my @$$!

Distort the truth much?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/09/21/protests-break-out-in-charlotte-after-police-fatally-shoot-man-they-say-wielded-firearm/

[stevenl]

18 minutes ago, Pimay1 said:

Distort the truth much?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/09/21/protests-break-out-in-charlotte-after-police-fatally-shoot-man-they-say-wielded-firearm/

You missed the shooting DM was talking about.

But this thread is about Kaepernick.

Edited September 22, 2016 by stevenl

[Pimay1]

14 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You missed the shooting DM was talking about.

But this thread is about Kaepernick.

Noted.

[anotheruser]

The 49ers should just tell the guy don't come out until the anthem has been sung. He can do what he wants but I would think under contract they could tell him to simply stay away and avoid all of this. He is an employee after all.

[SheungWan]

49ers lost again.

[ClutchClark]

On September 21, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Skywalker69 said:

Cue conservatives who preach freedom, the Constitution, and who call themselves patriots getting upset about people exercising their freedoms. 

 

This conservative just doesn't like some idiot player to get in the way of the game. 

 

I care no more for the opinion of a ballplayer tha I do for an actress like Angelina Jolie. 

[stevenl]

55 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

 

This conservative just doesn't like some idiot player to get in the way of the game. 

 

I care no more for the opinion of a ballplayer tha I do for an actress like Angelina Jolie. 

This week Tommie Smith and John Carlos will be rehabilitated.

[ClutchClark]

9 minutes ago, stevenl said:

This week Tommie Smith and John Carlos will be rehabilitated.

 

Yep...bringing their personal politics to the Olympic Stadium.

 

do you understand what the Olympics is supposed to represent?

 

A politically neutral arena to celebrate sport.

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

 

Yep...bringing their personal politics to the Olympic Stadium.

 

do you understand what the Olympics is supposed to represent?

 

A politically neutral arena to celebrate sport.

Ah, that's why countries have boycotted it over other country's politics.

The Olympics have been about politics for a long time now, and more recently also a lot about money and prestige.

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

This conservative just doesn't like some idiot player to get in the way of the game. 

 

I care no more for the opinion of a ballplayer tha I do for an actress like Angelina Jolie. 

 

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

This week Tommie Smith and John Carlos will be rehabilitated.

 

Tommie Smith and John Carlos made their protest from the winners podium ie after the event.