Justice minister slams doctor for saying DSI officers murdered suspect

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Justice minister slams doctor for saying DSI officers murdered suspect

By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter -

 

Officials on Wednesday lead media on a tour of the detention room at DSI headquarters where the agency claimed Thawatchai Anukul hanged himself the day earlier.

 

BANGKOK — The head of the Justice Ministry said Sunday that a hospital director discredited law enforcement by blaming investigators for the death of a suspect in custody last week.

 

Gen. Paiboon Kumchaya said it’s too early to speculate how former land official Thawatchai Anukul died in his cell at the Department of Special Investigation on early Tuesday morning despite a doctor’s insinuation the agency was involved.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2016/09/05/justice-minister-slams-doctor-saying-dsi-officers-murdered-suspect/

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-09-05

 

[scorecard]

This is very much an ongoing, complex, and very serious investigation, why is the cell and immediate area not cordoned off to ensure no tampering or destruction or removal of evidence, until there is a clear supported decision? 

Edited September 5, 2016 by scorecard

[colinneil]

Too early to speculate that the poor man was beaten to death.

[Borzandy]

For the Thai justice it's clearly a suicide.

[Hawk]

"The head of the Justice Ministry said Sunday that a hospital director discredited law enforcement by blaming investigators for the death of a suspect in custody last week."

 

 

Nobody accept the police had access to the detention area so who else could have done the deed?  Not the victim.

 

Think about it, a guy with a beat up liver who has a secret pair of "very" long socks handy, manages to hook a sock on a small very smooth door hinge and kill himself?  Its hard enough to hook a thin bit of string on those hinges so forget about hooking a sock on one. And how long would the sock have to be anyway, to go around his neck and up to the second hinge while he passively sat on the floor?  And to add more bull**it to the story, the detention area had no cctv cameras, and I suppose no duty officer either!  Also, why were the family going to burn the body so fast, not even one day when must funerals in Thailand go on for about 3 - 5 days before the cremation?  I would suspect that the close family of the man were warned to back off and get rid of the evidence otherwise their lives would come under close examination.

 

But after the police investigate themselves it will eventually be ruled a suicide.

[clockman]

Thainess, farang not understand! Life is the cheapest comodity in Thailand. And the mantra is greed.

[chrisinth]

If the doctor carried out an autopsy on the victim and reported his findings, what has he done wrong? This is traceable as the evidence has been proven, or is still there to be disproved in the highly unlikely event that he was wrong.

 

If the justice minister has a grievance, it should be directed at the conflicting statements given by the DSI.

 

Until this sort of public belittling, caused by someone/some organization losing face, right or wrong, becomes a thing of the past, nothing will change in this country.

 

Fact.......................

[how241]

Move along, nothing to see here.

[drbamboo]

20 minutes ago, Borzandy said:

For the Thai justice it's clearly a suicide.

if he is falang

[Mickmouse1]

Too early to speculate or announce a verdict .How about police always attribute cause of death of all foreigners  who fell from buildings as "SUICIDE" before any post mortem or investigation  ? ????

[thai3]

Beaten to death is obvious, you do not suffer liver damage from socks or from properly administered CPR, he was killed.

[DoctorG]

The doctor's assertion might well be correct, but it was pretty stupid of him to say so without any proof.

The guy probably was beaten to death (going by the injuries) and the area access would have been controlled, but ....

[PattayaBoy]

They said he hang himself with his own socks.

Is that even possible?

And thais dont wear socks.

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[dotpoom]

"  the agency claimed Thawatchai Anukul hanged himself the day earlier".

 

" said it’s too early to speculate how former land official Thawatchai Anukul died in his cell" ?

Edited September 5, 2016 by dotpoom

[KarenBravo]

Yet again, Thai officialdom shows that the truth is their enemy.....

[williamgeorgeallen]

stay out of everything in thailand. no business, no property, no girlfriend, and you cant go wrong. best country in the world to live if you follow these rules. this case will just drag on, there will never be any outcome other than a white wash. sounds like the guy was playing with fire and got burnt. those who burnt him will carry on business as normal.

[NextStationBangkok]

For custodial deaths Police should take responsibility first. And Doctor should submit the postmortem report to the court, not to disclose to public so that someone try to manipulate the evidence. And a third party commission should investigate such incidents. Probably Khuning Porntip will take responsibility to lead the probe, she is the only has power to handle this.

[AlQaholic]

11 minutes ago, NextStationBangkok said:

For custodial deaths Police should take responsibility first. And Doctor should submit the postmortem report to the court, not to disclose to public so that someone try to manipulate the evidence. And a third party commission should investigate such incidents. Probably Khuning Porntip will take responsibility to lead the probe, she is the only has power to handle this.

Yeah, Pornthip, the only one who still thinks the fake bomb detectors work......

[Bwlch]

50 minutes ago, thai3 said:

Beaten to death is obvious, you do not suffer liver damage from socks or from properly administered CPR, he was killed.

You will suffer liver damage from socks especially when they are filled with wet sand.

[klauskunkel]

... and as usual, no cctv in the area to show who accessed the victim's cell...

[rkidlad]

4 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

... and as usual, no cctv in the area to show who accessed the victim's cell...

 

Hey! That's unfair. They already said they didn't wanna observe him 'cos of human rights. You know how PC Thailand is when it comes to human rights. 

[jamesbrock]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Gen. Paiboon Kumchaya said it’s too early to speculate how former land official Thawatchai Anukul died in his cell at the Department of Special Investigation on early Tuesday morning

 

Of course, there's always the possibility that someone not employed by the DSI surreptitiously crept into the DSI building, broke into the holding cell, beat Thawatchai to death, and left the scene without being detected, but Occam's Razor would suggest that the person who beat him to death was a member (or members) of the DSI.

[Alwyn]

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

This is very much an ongoing, complex, and very serious investigation, why is the cell and immediate area not cordoned off to ensure no tampering or destruction or removal of evidence, until there is a clear supported decision? 

 

So, as in the B2 case, they can make sure only evidence they manufacture (no matter how poorly) is 'discovered' and leads the lawful conviction of whoever they have the ballache with at the time! More importantly, the real perpetrator will continue his life without let or hindrance. I think that's how it kinda works..

[klauskunkel]

14 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

 

Hey! That's unfair. They already said they didn't wanna observe him 'cos of human rights. You know how PC Thailand is when it comes to human rights. 

I wrote: no cctv in the area to observe who enters the cell.

I did not write: no cctv in his cell to observe the man's bodily functions.

[wvavin]

The public is actually not so interested in the cause of Thawatchai's death. What the general understanding is that he must die or else there would be great implication on those "influential people" if he spews out everything. 

[ratcatcher]

1 hour ago, PattayaBoy said:

They said he hang himself with his own socks.

Is that even possible?

And thais dont wear socks.

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"Thais don't wear socks"?

Most Thais don't wear socks, but in case you haven't  noticed, outside of Pattaya, businessmen and all Thai male professionals dress western style or Thai formal like the P.M.

I am sure they all wear socks. I doubt Prayuth has flip flops on while he gives his weekly sermon.

[BlindMagician]

Whiff whiff ... the smell of something starting to stink, and layers of incompetence...possibly gonna blow up into another TIT saga.

[toybits]

How many similar mysterious deaths while in custody of authorities in Southern Thailand have occurred in the past? I would be very interested to hear from an investigative journalists what they find out. Oh!  Sorry! Yeah! It won't EVER HAPPEN. ha ha ha...

[Grubster]

It hurts me to hear of all this corruption, The Rich prevail in all countries though. Don't step on their toes or else. I'm happy to be just a lower middle class retired nobody.

[OMGImInPattaya]

Was this the suspect who committed "suicide" by rupturing his liver (or was it the kidney) while in police custody?