webfact Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Koh Samui’s Khao Paeng encroachers given jailterms SAMUI: -- Former Democrat heavyweight Suthep Thuagsuban’s son and former secretary were on Wednesday sentenced to three years’ imprisonment by the Criminal Court after they were found guilty of forest encroachment on Koh Samui island. Two other accomplices – Pongchai Fathaweeporn, manager of Ruang Panya construction firm, and Samart Ruangsri, a land broker and partner of Ruang Panya construction firm – were also found guilty of encroachment at Khao Paeng on Koh Samui and given five years’ jailterm each. The four men who include Taen Thuagsuban and Bancherd Laopiyasakul, were charged by the public prosecutor of conspiring to cut down trees at Khao Paeng and to seize control of the forest land totaling altogether 45 rai. The encroachment took place during September 2000-October 2001. A reservoir was also built on the land without permission. The four men denied the charges and fought the case. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/koh-samuis-khao-paeng-encroachers-given-jailterms/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-09-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 "... pending an appeal to higher court..." A battle may have been won, but this war will have a long way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 "The proof of the pudding is in the tasting", and theses guys are unlikely to taste any jail food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 They wont be the last from what I heard . The army are seemingly starting to look into all property on the beaches to check the paperwork is correct and also land deeds for beach areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtom Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 13 minutes ago, ronaldo0 said: They wont be the last from what I heard . The army are seemingly starting to look into all property on the beaches to check the paperwork is correct and also land deeds for beach areas. I'll believe it if they (army) go after the Conrad Hilton project, built on land too steep according to Samui building rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 2 hours ago, longtom said: I'll believe it if they (army) go after the Conrad Hilton project, built on land too steep according to Samui building rules. Probably a number of places build on too steep land, however may be depending of the initial land-deed and if it's only a cliff-part inside legal land... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitnessHealthTravel Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 1 hour ago, khunPer said: Probably a number of places build on too steep land, however may be depending of the initial land-deed and if it's only a cliff-part inside legal land... So you haven't driven around Lamai to Chaweng Noi recently obviously. The NEW rules are 30% / 30 degrees Conrad was well into development and does not fall under the new rules apparently. There is a French / Thai Building Company doing most of the 'cliff building' here but I believe they too have projects that were started before the new laws. The Army doesn't have to look far or hard to find hundreds of projects violating the 'high tide' single story rule. Look at that new HORRIBLE building called THE BEACH in Thong Krut. How can a 4 story building be built on the beach not more than 30 meters from the high tide mark? I hear it is a British Timeshare Company flogging that to the Chinese. Every beach on this Island has bars and restaurants encroaching on the beach. It is highly unlikely that they will make everyone comply. There will be many more stories like this in the future that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 7 hours ago, FitnessHealthTravel said: So you haven't driven around Lamai to Chaweng Noi recently obviously. The NEW rules are 30% / 30 degrees Conrad was well into development and does not fall under the new rules apparently. There is a French / Thai Building Company doing most of the 'cliff building' here but I believe they too have projects that were started before the new laws. The Army doesn't have to look far or hard to find hundreds of projects violating the 'high tide' single story rule. Look at that new HORRIBLE building called THE BEACH in Thong Krut. How can a 4 story building be built on the beach not more than 30 meters from the high tide mark? I hear it is a British Timeshare Company flogging that to the Chinese. Every beach on this Island has bars and restaurants encroaching on the beach. It is highly unlikely that they will make everyone comply. There will be many more stories like this in the future that is for sure. I have and that's why I wrote "probably a number of places build on too steep land", because from looking only we don't know the facts. Koh Samui is divided into a number zones with various regulations for building permission. The general rule for beach areas is something like (remembered by heart): 10 meter inside land from beach, max number of square meters around 70, 1 story only, maximum height to roof-top 6 meters and x meter (think it's 6 or 10) between each building, that may not be connected; roof shall be thai-style (angled) on 60% or 70% of the building and in specified (earth) colors (blue roof-tiles are for example not allowed). However, various zones allows other parameters, and for example "City Zone" says that a building shall be 2 meter inside own land to public area (street/beach) and 3 meters from water-edge (high tide), ½ meter from neighbor if no openings (doors/windows) or 1 meter if openings (can be different after mutual agreement between neighbors), not higher than 12 meter to roof-top (4 story can actually be build); same roof conditions but no 70 square meter limit (it think there is a higher limit, fairly high number). I have a recently build a 3-story beach-house within "city-zone", so it's legally possible – the above information was the regulations from Tessa Ban for permission to build my house – Fisherman Village for example is "city zone", so is some hundred meters at Maenam around Soi 4, the pier soi for the original Koh Phangan ferry. A problem with some beach land has been the upgrade from Nor Sor 3-deed to Chanote-deed, as the land border by the beach is moved 1-2 meter inland (away from water-edge) on the Chanote-deed; making the public beach little wider, and the private land slightly smaller. An old land protection at the beach, following the Nor Sor 3-line, suddenly became illegal as now standing on the Marine Department's beach, according to the new Chanote-line. There are some in English about "Koh Samui Zoning regulation" here and here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 22/09/2016 at 10:07 AM, Ulic said: "The proof of the pudding is in the tasting", and theses guys are unlikely to taste any jail food. I guess a term in the temple will solve it all, Just like ole dad did ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 22/09/2016 at 10:12 AM, ronaldo0 said: They wont be the last from what I heard . The army are seemingly starting to look into all property on the beaches to check the paperwork is correct and also land deeds for beach areas. On 22/09/2016 at 10:12 AM, ronaldo0 said: They wont be the last from what I heard . The army are seemingly starting to look into all property on the beaches to check the paperwork is correct and also land deeds for beach areas. Hope that they check the beach boundary's whilst they are at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Do they get to keep the land and all the improvements illegally carried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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