webfact Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Frozen body identified as American publisher By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter - Rescue workers load a body found in a Phra Khanong shophouse on Sept. 23 in Bangkok. Police now believe the body was that of an American man named Charles Edward Ditlefsen. BANGKOK — Police on Thursday were waiting for American officials to formally confirm the identity of a body found in the freezer of a passport forgery den they believe to be that of U.S. national Charles Edward Ditlefsen, a police source said. Two of three American suspects are currently held in a Bangkok prison in connection with the dismembered body. The man they believe responsible for murdering Ditlefsen, who was on the run from the FBI nearly four decades, remains hospitalized for injuries sustained during his capture after he shot a police officer. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2016/10/06/frozen-body-identified-american-publisher/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-10-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhonchai nick Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 "The man they believe responsible for murdering Ditlefsen, who was on the run from the FBI nearly four decades, remains hospitalized for injuries sustained during his capture after he shot a police officer. " He must have received quite severe injuries to have been hospitalised all this time. , Well done the Police - he clearly deserved it after shooting an Officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I thought it was an Eastern European..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, smutcakes said: I thought it was an Eastern European..... yes but I believe the words used were "of Hungarian descent". Several other articles on the internet say The remains have now been identified as being those of Charles Edward Ditlefsen, a Hungarian-born U.S. citizen and former California railway executive. Edited October 7, 2016 by gk10002000 additions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 this really is a chilling tale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I don't know what science is used to determine exactly where a body comes from & can narrow it down to say Hungary, not next door in Austria -- but obviously there is one. Maybe with a name like "Ditlefsen" he was a 2nd generation American with east European parents. So causing confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, AGareth2 said: this really is a chilling tale its friday, crack open a cold one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 So they had no identity of him except that he was of Hungarian descent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 1 hour ago, sanuk711 said: I don't know what science is used to determine exactly where a body comes from & can narrow it down to say Hungary, not next door in Austria -- but obviously there is one. Maybe with a name like "Ditlefsen" he was a 2nd generation American with east European parents. So causing confusion. Not relevant to this story but to your question. I'm half Hungarian (mother's side) and have had my DNA sequenced. Most analyses have identified my Hungarian background. I do get a lot of German also, but my paternal grandmother was German. Do remember that the original Hungarians were not an Indo-European people and were ethnically very different from their neighbouring Germans and Slavs. That said, the name given for the deceased does not look at all Hungarian to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock09 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 44 minutes ago, Docno said: Not relevant to this story but to your question. I'm half Hungarian (mother's side) and have had my DNA sequenced. Most analyses have identified my Hungarian background. I do get a lot of German also, but my paternal grandmother was German. Do remember that the original Hungarians were not an Indo-European people and were ethnically very different from their neighbouring Germans and Slavs. That said, the name given for the deceased does not look at all Hungarian to me... Ditlefsen sounds Scandanavian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howitzer Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 2 hours ago, smutcakes said: I thought it was an Eastern European..... There are eastern Europeans of American nationality you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano555 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 3 hours ago, smutcakes said: I thought it was an Eastern European..... Thai's MAKING A QUICK ASSUMPTION AS USUAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano555 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 3 hours ago, smutcakes said: I thought it was an Eastern European..... Thai's MAKING A QUICK ASSUMPTION AS USUAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 What's the significance of him being a publisher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 "A source in the police force, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was told not to speak to reporters" Such professionalism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 40 minutes ago, hobobo said: What's the significance of him being a publisher? He published calendars featuring old trains which is even less relevant, unless, I suppose, he had printing skills knowledge. Maybe helped with passport forgery, just a guess mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madusa Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 On 06/10/2016 at 11:14 PM, Bluespunk said: He published calendars featuring old trains which is even less relevant, unless, I suppose, he had printing skills knowledge. Maybe helped with passport forgery, just a guess mind. Bluespunk, your guess is good one. They probably need his expert advice on printing. You can't sit around the bar and ask if anyone knows where to get the special papers for printing the passport can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 A frozen publisher? He must have worked for Penguin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cncltd1973 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 police reporting on this case is as confusing as immigration. but as least they put the pieces back in order before they bagged him. kudos for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 5 hours ago, prakhonchai nick said: "The man they believe responsible for murdering Ditlefsen, who was on the run from the FBI nearly four decades, remains hospitalized for injuries sustained during his capture after he shot a police officer. " He must have received quite severe injuries to have been hospitalised all this time. , Well done the Police - he clearly deserved it after shooting an Officer. yes, I almost got a wet patch in my panties at the thought of the wonderful thai police dishing out random vigilante punishments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 4 hours ago, wombat said: its friday, crack open a cold one. Hang on, let me check the freezer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 32 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: He published calendars featuring old trains Beware the murky world of trainspotters -- gentle, bespectacled, soot covered folk who hide dark secrets. Be afraid, be very afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 37 minutes ago, madusa said: Bluespunk, your guess is good one. They probably need his expert advice on printing. You can't sit around the bar and ask if anyone knows where to get the special papers for printing the passport can you? no but you could ask on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 What on earth is relevant about the murdered American's ethnicity? Apart from the American Indians all Americans are immigrants. It just depends on the timeline as to how long they have been there. There is now an obsession with this as if ethnicity apportions blame for peoples actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 ....would like to know what Thais these people have been working with.... ..seems they are overlooking the obvious..... ...the wife...the cleaning lady...... ....who else....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acharn Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 5 hours ago, madusa said: Bluespunk, your guess is good one. They probably need his expert advice on printing. You can't sit around the bar and ask if anyone knows where to get the special papers for printing the passport can you? You aren't going to get the special paper for printing a passport anyway. Well, unless you have a lot more money than these guys looked like they had. The usual way to make a fake passport is to start with an old real passport. I don't know about other countries, but the U.S. embassy punches holes in the old passport when you renew so they can't easily be reused. That's one reason it's such a big deal getting a lost or stolen passport replaced. You can do it once. Next time I think you run into real difficulties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 What I want to know is their ThaiVisa user names so that I can see what type of vitriol they spilled about other users. I love a good bit of gossip, as well as the psychological profiling, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabaitoo Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 some info on Ditlefsen http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2003/12/08/smallb1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 On Friday, October 07, 2016 at 8:45 AM, AGareth2 said: this really is a chilling tale And they better get their act together before it warms up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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