Trump refuses to say he will accept election results

[dunroaming]

Amazing how the Trumpsters are still firing salvos even though they must know the war is all but over!

[JLCrab]

(GHWB 1993 letter already posted)

 

But as long as I've got this space, here's one of eloquence from the son GWB:

 

Edited October 20, 2016 by JLCrab

[ilostmypassword]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They ain't backing Trump. They are trying to disrupt our way of life. Do your own research.

I may be no paragon of virtue, but when I make an assertion, I will back it up with evidence. When someone replies the way that you do, it means you know you've got nothing.  Your version of socialism sounds more and more like a particular kind of doctrine that described itself as socialism and briefly enjoyed a huge and horrifying success. The parallels are really and if you ask, I will  point them out. Unlike you, I am not afraid to back up my assertions.

Edited October 20, 2016 by ilostmypassword

[captspectre]

21 hours ago, Credo said:

Trump blew it again.

 

He just blithers and says nothing.

I seem to remember al gore doing the same thing! he did not accept the outcome, he damanded a recount and it went ll the way to the supreme court! also there was good old phoney john kerry! 

[Credo]

5 minutes ago, captspectre said:

I seem to remember al gore doing the same thing! he did not accept the outcome, he damanded a recount and it went ll the way to the supreme court! also there was good old phoney john kerry! 

I believe the recount was mandated by law because the numbers were so close.   

[Sooo Upto Me]

21 hours ago, Clamhua said:

If these 2 people are the best America has to offer for President...God help the free world because we are all in for bumpy ride

 

 Yes wot a gruesome twosome.

 

[LannaGuy]

20 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

But you're  of the "the utter BS mouthed by bigots like" Donald Trump? 

 

I don't like some of what trump says but he's gone through the election process and received MILLIONS of votes and beaten a field of 17. Van Jones is just a loud mouthed hack who thinks he's a MLK and speaks for all the 'repressed' folk 'of colour' and personifies the PC i loath.  Maybe you support Clinton and respect she destroyed 33,000 emails so they can't be read?  where was CNN in focussing on that? No they'd rather forget that and concentrate on a 10 year old secretly taped sentence in a  bus. 

[AYJAYDEE]

4 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

 

I don't like some of what trump says but he's gone through the election process and received MILLIONS of votes and beaten a field of 17. Van Jones is just a loud mouthed hack who thinks he's a MLK and speaks for all the 'repressed' folk 'of colour' and personifies the PC i loath.  Maybe you support Clinton and respect she destroyed 33,000 emails so they can't be read?  where was CNN in focussing on that? No they'd rather forget that and concentrate on a 10 year old secretly taped sentence in a  bus. 

 

live by the sword die by the sword, the idiot shudda left bill clinton out of it

[ilostmypassword]

22 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

 

I don't like some of what trump says but he's gone through the election process and received MILLIONS of votes and beaten a field of 17. Van Jones is just a loud mouthed hack who thinks he's a MLK and speaks for all the 'repressed' folk 'of colour' and personifies the PC i loath.  Maybe you support Clinton and respect she destroyed 33,000 emails so they can't be read?  where was CNN in focussing on that? No they'd rather forget that and concentrate on a 10 year old secretly taped sentence in a  bus. 

The topic you raised was bigotry. Nice attempt at deflection though.

[John1012]

As a non US citizen who cannot vote, unless I illegally enter the USA and live in California,  I watch the débâcle of the US election destroying the credibility of democracy in the US.  On one side we have the established,paid for political machines of the GOP & DNC, on the other we have a loose cannon, who is not bought and paid for by national and international organisations, but who seems truly to be an American patriot, Trump. (Who has never done anything to harm the national interests of the USA and who , when younger had a big ego and mouth and liked pussy, so what).The Mainstream media is heavily biased towards the status quo, the existing POTUS and family are  the worst the US has ever had, and he is an Islamist to boot. Race relations, black versus white is worse than in the pre MLK era, the theocracy of Islam is slowly spreading it's cancer in the cities. BLM and Black Panthers should be classed as internal terrorist organisations, they are threatening national security,they are not addressing the differences between the races but  are so confrontational that they are forcing the non Black communities  consider reacting against the violent threat that they offer. Where are the Hispnanic live matter group and  the Asian live matter group, they are probably too busy trying to make a living and improve themselves.The DOJ and the FBI are now looked upon as unable to uphold the law properly and treat all crimes, whomsoever committed them, as punishable by law,HRC has proven beyond doubt that she and her organisation is corrupt. deceitful and not competent to represent the USA both nationally or internationally. The system is broken, it needs to be refurbished with honesty and patriotism. All we see in Washington is a parasitic structure built around long serving politicians, lobbyist groups and self interest. The Constitution was put in place  both as a set of rules to live by and to protect the people from despotic government. To remove the 2nd amendment rights, so disarming the populace, is the start of  self interested despotic central government control, this would not even be a benevolent dictatorship as it seemingly is not governed by decent moral ethics but by a preferential leaning towards Islam, BHO is supporter of Islam , HRC is bought and paid for by Islamic governments, Keane is a supporter of Islam. If the election is stolen from the American people by the corruption of HRC ,her supporters, the DNC & GOP, then the USA is finished , both as an international player lead by people that are recognised as corrupt  and will be  internationally despised, as Obama is now, and internally as sovereign states decide to secede from the corruptness of the Washington lead cabal of elitists who would represent the status quo. The only option is Trump, if HRC and Keane are elected then you will NOT have another chance as by the time the next election date comes around it will probably irrelevant as the Constitution will have been circumvented by a packed supreme court,executive orders and the rise of Islam.In order for the USA and the Constitution to survive the 'swamp must be drained'.

[Boon Mee]

Well, Gore refused to concede so what's the big deal?

 

FLASHBACK: Gore explains why he won't concede election... 

[AYJAYDEE]

15 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, Gore refused to concede so what's the big deal?

 

FLASHBACK: Gore explains why he won't concede election... 

 

because Gore didn't claim dishonest action

[Pinot]

9 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Yep and he would have made a fine president. Instead we are going to be stuck with two very bad choices.

 

Kasich, ah yes. Looking back at what could have been. Coulda, woulda, shoulda. 

We're going to end up with a great President. The first woman ever to be elected to be President. Immently qualified, well liked, grounded, a person who will make the choices that will lead America up and away from the horrible choices proposed by the worst candidate in history has been advocating. It's so over. YUGE win coming up. 

 

1 hour ago, John1012 said:

As a non US citizen who cannot vote, unless I illegally enter the USA and live in California,  I watch the débâcle of the US election destroying the credibility of democracy in the US.  On one side we have the established,paid for political machines of the GOP & DNC, on the other we have a loose cannon, who is not bought and paid for by national and international organisations, but who seems truly to be an American patriot, Trump. (Who has never done anything to harm the national interests of the USA and who , when younger had a big ego and mouth and liked pussy, so what).The Mainstream media is heavily biased towards the status quo, the existing POTUS and family are  the worst the US has ever had, and he is an Islamist to boot. Race relations, black versus white is worse than in the pre MLK era, the theocracy of Islam is slowly spreading it's cancer in the cities. BLM and Black Panthers should be classed as internal terrorist organisations, they are threatening national security,they are not addressing the differences between the races but  are so confrontational that they are forcing the non Black communities  consider reacting against the violent threat that they offer. Where are the Hispnanic live matter group and  the Asian live matter group, they are probably too busy trying to make a living and improve themselves.The DOJ and the FBI are now looked upon as unable to uphold the law properly and treat all crimes, whomsoever committed them, as punishable by law,HRC has proven beyond doubt that she and her organisation is corrupt. deceitful and not competent to represent the USA both nationally or internationally. The system is broken, it needs to be refurbished with honesty and patriotism. All we see in Washington is a parasitic structure built around long serving politicians, lobbyist groups and self interest. The Constitution was put in place  both as a set of rules to live by and to protect the people from despotic government. To remove the 2nd amendment rights, so disarming the populace, is the start of  self interested despotic central government control, this would not even be a benevolent dictatorship as it seemingly is not governed by decent moral ethics but by a preferential leaning towards Islam, BHO is supporter of Islam , HRC is bought and paid for by Islamic governments, Keane is a supporter of Islam. If the election is stolen from the American people by the corruption of HRC ,her supporters, the DNC & GOP, then the USA is finished , both as an international player lead by people that are recognised as corrupt  and will be  internationally despised, as Obama is now, and internally as sovereign states decide to secede from the corruptness of the Washington lead cabal of elitists who would represent the status quo. The only option is Trump, if HRC and Keane are elected then you will NOT have another chance as by the time the next election date comes around it will probably irrelevant as the Constitution will have been circumvented by a packed supreme court,executive orders and the rise of Islam.In order for the USA and the Constitution to survive the 'swamp must be drained'.

 

Anybody actually make it through this post? So much hatred and delusion in one unreadable post. Cut and paste from Stormfront? 

 

1 hour ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, Gore refused to concede so what's the big deal?

 

FLASHBACK: Gore explains why he won't concede election... 

 

That's what you got left? Al Gore? This has absolutely nothing to do with what Trump...oh nevermind

[lvr181]

14 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While it is off topic, Trump has said many times how he will make Mexico pay for the wall. Just because you were sleeping doesn't change that.

 

Are you saying he is going to resort to some sort of "blackmail"? How very statesman like! 

 

Have a nice day. 

[ilostmypassword]

1 hour ago, John1012 said:

As a non US citizen who cannot vote, unless I illegally enter the USA and live in California,  I watch the débâcle of the US election destroying the credibility of democracy in the US.  On one side we have the established,paid for political machines of the GOP & DNC, on the other we have a loose cannon, who is not bought and paid for by national and international organisations, but who seems truly to be an American patriot, Trump. (Who has never done anything to harm the national interests of the USA and who , when younger had a big ego and mouth and liked pussy, so what).The Mainstream media is heavily biased towards the status quo, the existing POTUS and family are  the worst the US has ever had, and he is an Islamist to boot. Race relations, black versus white is worse than in the pre MLK era, the theocracy of Islam is slowly spreading it's cancer in the cities. BLM and Black Panthers should be classed as internal terrorist organisations, they are threatening national security,they are not addressing the differences between the races but  are so confrontational that they are forcing the non Black communities  consider reacting against the violent threat that they offer. Where are the Hispnanic live matter group and  the Asian live matter group, they are probably too busy trying to make a living and improve themselves.The DOJ and the FBI are now looked upon as unable to uphold the law properly and treat all crimes, whomsoever committed them, as punishable by law,HRC has proven beyond doubt that she and her organisation is corrupt. deceitful and not competent to represent the USA both nationally or internationally. The system is broken, it needs to be refurbished with honesty and patriotism. All we see in Washington is a parasitic structure built around long serving politicians, lobbyist groups and self interest. The Constitution was put in place  both as a set of rules to live by and to protect the people from despotic government. To remove the 2nd amendment rights, so disarming the populace, is the start of  self interested despotic central government control, this would not even be a benevolent dictatorship as it seemingly is not governed by decent moral ethics but by a preferential leaning towards Islam, BHO is supporter of Islam , HRC is bought and paid for by Islamic governments, Keane is a supporter of Islam. If the election is stolen from the American people by the corruption of HRC ,her supporters, the DNC & GOP, then the USA is finished , both as an international player lead by people that are recognised as corrupt  and will be  internationally despised, as Obama is now, and internally as sovereign states decide to secede from the corruptness of the Washington lead cabal of elitists who would represent the status quo. The only option is Trump, if HRC and Keane are elected then you will NOT have another chance as by the time the next election date comes around it will probably irrelevant as the Constitution will have been circumvented by a packed supreme court,executive orders and the rise of Islam.In order for the USA and the Constitution to survive the 'swamp must be drained'.

Given the substance of your comments, I'm not sure if you're even a citizen of Planet Earth, much less the United States.  Trump is patriotic? On what basis do you say that?  He managed to avoid serving in the military during the vietnam war. He claimed to give 1 million dollars to the 9/11 fund but to date has offered no evidence that this is true. As for his character?  He regularly stiffs small contractors.  He sues people who say true things about him just to threaten them financially.  Banks won't lend to him which is why he has to go to shady foreign investors for his funds.  As for his competence..he destroyed the business his father left him. And has had a big string of business failures since. He did brilliantly exploit the success of The Apprentice, on which he was merely a hired hand, not the show's creator,  to promote the notion that he was a great businessman.  If you go to independent fact checking organization, Trump is by far the most dishonest politicial figure out there. No one else even comes close.

[John1012]

1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

Given the substance of your comments, I'm not sure if you're even a citizen of Planet Earth, much less the United States.  Trump is patriotic? On what basis do you say that?  He managed to avoid serving in the military during the vietnam war. He claimed to give 1 million dollars to the 9/11 fund but to date has offered no evidence that this is true. As for his character?  He regularly stiffs small contractors.  He sues people who say true things about him just to threaten them financially.  Banks won't lend to him which is why he has to go to shady foreign investors for his funds.  As for his competence..he destroyed the business his father left him. And has had a big string of business failures since. He did brilliantly exploit the success of The Apprentice, on which he was merely a hired hand, not the show's creator,  to promote the notion that he was a great businessman.  If you go to independent fact checking organization, Trump is by far the most dishonest politicial figure out there. No one else even comes close.

Then he should fit perfectly into your system of government.

[iReason]

Just now, John1012 said:

The Mainstream media is heavily biased towards the status quo, the existing POTUS and family are  the worst the US has ever had,

and he is an Islamist to boot.

 

Race relations, black versus white is worse than in the pre MLK era, the theocracy of Islam is slowly spreading it's cancer in the cities.

BLM and Black Panthers should be classed as internal terrorist organisations, they are threatening national security...

 

The DOJ and the FBI are now looked upon as unable to uphold the law properly and treat all crimes, whomsoever committed them, as punishable by law,

HRC has proven beyond doubt that she and her organisation is corrupt. deceitful and not competent to represent the USA both nationally or internationally.

 

To remove the 2nd amendment rights, so disarming the populace, is the start of  self interested despotic central government control, this would not even be a benevolent dictatorship as it seemingly is not governed by decent moral ethics but by a preferential leaning towards Islam, BHO is supporter of Islam , HRC is bought and paid for by Islamic governments, Keane is a supporter of Islam.

 

The only option is Trump, if HRC and Keane are elected then you will NOT have another chance as by the time the next election date comes around it will probably irrelevant as the Constitution will have been circumvented by a packed supreme court,executive orders and the rise of Islam.

 

Yawn...

Luckily, you can't vote.

But, you will still be able to subscribe to Trump TV.

 

Just wondering, do you now, subscribe to Drudge, Alex Jones and Fox Views?

You sure seem to believe the same inane, myopic, cartoon textbook talking-point, fear mongering that they do.

 

Life must be so simple in your bubble...

Edited October 21, 2016 by iReason

[ilostmypassword]

1 hour ago, John1012 said:

As a non US citizen who cannot vote, unless I illegally enter the USA and live in California,  I watch the débâcle of the US election destroying the credibility of democracy in the US.  On one side we have the established,paid for political machines of the GOP & DNC, on the other we have a loose cannon, who is not bought and paid for by national and international organisations, but who seems truly to be an American patriot, Trump. (Who has never done anything to harm the national interests of the USA and who , when younger had a big ego and mouth and liked pussy, so what).The Mainstream media is heavily biased towards the status quo, the existing POTUS and family are  the worst the US has ever had, and he is an Islamist to boot. Race relations, black versus white is worse than in the pre MLK era, the theocracy of Islam is slowly spreading it's cancer in the cities. BLM and Black Panthers should be classed as internal terrorist organisations, they are threatening national security,they are not addressing the differences between the races but  are so confrontational that they are forcing the non Black communities  consider reacting against the violent threat that they offer. Where are the Hispnanic live matter group and  the Asian live matter group, they are probably too busy trying to make a living and improve themselves.The DOJ and the FBI are now looked upon as unable to uphold the law properly and treat all crimes, whomsoever committed them, as punishable by law,HRC has proven beyond doubt that she and her organisation is corrupt. deceitful and not competent to represent the USA both nationally or internationally. The system is broken, it needs to be refurbished with honesty and patriotism. All we see in Washington is a parasitic structure built around long serving politicians, lobbyist groups and self interest. The Constitution was put in place  both as a set of rules to live by and to protect the people from despotic government. To remove the 2nd amendment rights, so disarming the populace, is the start of  self interested despotic central government control, this would not even be a benevolent dictatorship as it seemingly is not governed by decent moral ethics but by a preferential leaning towards Islam, BHO is supporter of Islam , HRC is bought and paid for by Islamic governments, Keane is a supporter of Islam. If the election is stolen from the American people by the corruption of HRC ,her supporters, the DNC & GOP, then the USA is finished , both as an international player lead by people that are recognised as corrupt  and will be  internationally despised, as Obama is now, and internally as sovereign states decide to secede from the corruptness of the Washington lead cabal of elitists who would represent the status quo. The only option is Trump, if HRC and Keane are elected then you will NOT have another chance as by the time the next election date comes around it will probably irrelevant as the Constitution will have been circumvented by a packed supreme court,executive orders and the rise of Islam.In order for the USA and the Constitution to survive the 'swamp must be drained'.

Not only is Obama not internationally despised, but according to the Gallup Poll, he is about as popular as was Ronald Reagan at the same point in his presidency.

[Grubster]

7 hours ago, tonray said:

Not surprisingly you left out the 8 years between Clinton and Obama.. More right leaning selective memory. Those 8 years were terrible for the working class and for AMERICA.  

You sure read that wrong the last nine presidents are, Johnson through Obama, in my opinion G. W. Bush was by far the worst of them all. I was only stating the fact that the Dem,s have not helped the cause of the working class either. Bernie Sanders was my choice but they would have never passed any of his major bills anyway, as congress is in lockstep with wall street. The snow ball is so big and rolling downhill so fast that it can only stop at the bottom.

[ilostmypassword]

55 minutes ago, John1012 said:

Then he should fit perfectly into your system of government.

Among other things, my system of government wouldn't offer carte blance to hedge funds and big banks to tank the economy.  Given that Trump wants to massively deregulate them, I'd say that he doesn't fit into my system of government.  

[gmmarvin]

Al Gore (Democrate) refused to accept the results of the 2000 Presidential Election.  Hired 87 lawyers to demand a recount in Florida.  After the recount Bush still won.

[ilostmypassword]

6 minutes ago, gmmarvin said:

Al Gore (Democrate) refused to accept the results of the 2000 Presidential Election.  Hired 87 lawyers to demand a recount in Florida.  After the recount Bush still won.

He refusesd to accept 1 result: the Florida vote. He lost that by a 5-4 decision of the Supreme court. It was based on a specific anomaly in the Florida voting. Trump is flat out alleging vote rigging in advance of the election. There's a huge difference.

[jcsmith]

Huge difference between Al Gore asking for a recount and Tump refusing to accept the results. Gore himself was ready to concede, he was pushed into the recount because it was so close. Originally it was announced that Gore had won Florida, then it turned out that Bush won it by less than 2000 votes. A vote that close triggers an automatic recount in Florida. Because the whole election then hinged on that state though, it went under the microscope and put the election in a holding pattern with both sides vollying to try to win that state bringing into question things like absentee votes, ineligible voters, etc by the various political parties. 

That is completely different than someone losing an election and then questioning the whole electoral process. Especially when the person making the threats to do so is behind in all the polls and will very likely actually lose the election. This will only lead to a larger divide between Trump's band of deplorables (and by that I am referring to the hardline right wing of his supporters, the guys who want to kick out the immigrants and muslims) and the rest of the country.

Edited October 21, 2016 by jcsmith

[AYJAYDEE]

31 minutes ago, gmmarvin said:

Al Gore (Democrate) refused to accept the results of the 2000 Presidential Election.  Hired 87 lawyers to demand a recount in Florida.  After the recount Bush still won.

 

wrong

 

[LannaGuy]

33 minutes ago, gmmarvin said:

Al Gore (Democrate) refused to accept the results of the 2000 Presidential Election.  Hired 87 lawyers to demand a recount in Florida.  After the recount Bush still won.

 

nonsense Gore got 500,000 more votes but the completely IMPARTIAL 5 republican judges found for Bush in what was a travesty for democracy  

[Pinot]

The trumpeteers are just lobbing out the bullshit now. Desperate. 

 

All they have left are the lies they keep telling themselves. 

 

 

[silent]

11 hours ago, Publicus said:

 

I'd said several times Donald Trump is how fascism manifests in America. Trump and His Despicables are creating their unique American fascism.

 

Recognising the result of an election and the peaceful transition of power are anti-fascist and anti-dictatorship across the political and ideological board. Anti-Strongman leader who invariably usurps power and authority.

 

This is no longer political, as in who votes for whom and who wins. It's about democracy, i.e., accepting the outcome of the election (recounts are a normal part of the process, its principles, its precepts) and honoring the peaceful transition.

 

Who's posting glibly to stereotypes btw...

That's sweet to say and I admit it took me a while to remember what the original comment I made was after all the stereotyping and rhetoric in between, but Ms Liberty what does that have to with my attitude that only time and place we might achieve true freedom, is 6 feet under the ground. Particularly when it's still a toss up as which lesser of evils will be the next Apprentice.

[Publicus]

53 minutes ago, jcsmith said:

Huge difference between Al Gore asking for a recount and Tump refusing to accept the results. Gore himself was ready to concede, he was pushed into the recount because it was so close. Originally it was announced that Gore had won Florida, then it turned out that Bush won it by less than 2000 votes. A vote that close triggers an automatic recount in Florida. Because the whole election then hinged on that state though, it went under the microscope and put the election in a holding pattern with both sides vollying to try to win that state bringing into question things like absentee votes, ineligible voters, etc by the various political parties. 

That is completely different than someone losing an election and then questioning the whole electoral process. Especially when the person making the threats to do so is behind in all the polls and will very likely actually lose the election. This will only lead to a larger divide between Trump's band of deplorables (and by that I am referring to the hardline right wing of his supporters, the guys who want to kick out the immigrants and muslims) and the rest of the country.

 

Yes, and the year 2000 recounting of votes cast was in one state, Florida. 

 

When the recount started going badly for Bush, he went into the courts in Bush v Gore. Bush is the plaintiff, Gore is the respondent. (The Bush Family Mafia can count justices on the Supreme Court eh.)

 

Donald Trump is focused on a national conspiracy before the election -- three weeks before it.

 

Trump is naming particular names and specific central places of this national conspiracy: Philadelphia, Chicago, St. Louis....I haven't heard Detroit yet among others, but maybe he doesn't need to say Detroit to his inherently racial supporters.  

 

From the years ago Birther to the current rejection of the final election result, Donald Trump is how fascism manifests in America. Unfortunately, it's already taken hold of the Republican Party.

[LannaGuy]

43 minutes ago, Publicus said:

 

Yes, and the year 2000 recounting of votes cast was in one state, Florida. 

 

When the recount started going badly for Bush, he went into the courts in Bush v Gore. Bush is the plaintiff, Gore is the respondent. (The Bush Family Mafia can count justices on the Supreme Court eh.)

 

Donald Trump is focused on a national conspiracy before the election -- three weeks before it.

 

Trump is naming particular names and specific central places of this national conspiracy: Philadelphia, Chicago, St. Louis....I haven't heard Detroit yet among others, but maybe he doesn't need to say Detroit to his inherently racial supporters.  

 

From the years ago Birther to the current rejection of the final election result, Donald Trump is how fascism manifests in America. Unfortunately, it's already taken hold of the Republican Party.

 

"fascism"   

[Publicus]

1 hour ago, silent said:

That's sweet to say and I admit it took me a while to remember what the original comment I made was after all the stereotyping and rhetoric in between, but Ms Liberty what does that have to with my attitude that only time and place we might achieve true freedom, is 6 feet under the ground. Particularly when it's still a toss up as which lesser of evils will be the next Apprentice.

 

Sound like a voice from the grave already thx.