dick dasterdly Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 On 7/16/2017 at 0:41 PM, dick dasterdly said: At the moment it appears that the Independent/Telegraph/Guardian are as incapable of being impartial as the Express/Mail and other tabloids . On 7/16/2017 at 1:40 PM, SheungWan said: Funny how the guys who bemoan the absence of 'impartiality' usually find the answer in some nutcase websites. 23 hours ago, dick dasterdly said: Great post . When did I ever quote "some nutcase websites"? Edit - and please to reply with evidence to back-up your claim, as I WILL come back later to remind you of your outright lie.... 7 minutes ago, SheungWan said: There are a number of Conspiracy Theory Brexiteer guys on this forum who support Putin, who in today's world props up Assad dropping chemical weapons on his own people, so enough with the faux indignant responses from them. Is your latest quoted post based on similar 'facts' to your previous post quoted above? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, SheungWan said: I guess some guys would have liked Saddam Hussein to have stayed to continue dropping gas bombs on the Marsh Arabs. No more than I like to see any unsavoury regime doing what it does. But I wouldn't want to see an entire region of the world de-stabilised, just so that a group of globalist businessmen can make a 'killing' (excuse the pun) on the clean-up operation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Khun Han said: No more than I like to see any unsavoury regime doing what it does. But I wouldn't want to see an entire region of the world de-stabilised, just so that a group of globalist businessmen can make a 'killing' (excuse the pun) on the clean-up operation. You wait for a conspiracy theory bus and hey presto! One turns up right on time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nontabury Posted July 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2017 20 hours ago, soalbundy said: what is a 'one nation' Tory? I personally am not a patriot, I'm nobody's fool, you can wave your flags and sing your songs, I'm for me and my family, I'll sing the song of who's bread I'm eating,..... until it's finished. Getting angry about opinions is pointless, it will come as it comes, we have no power,not now,not in the past, nor in the future, the actors are on the stage reading lines written by others, in the end the audience will applaud, it's what we are there for. Fair enough ,your not a patriot,and that your only for you, and your family. Thank god, the majority of Brits did not think like you in 1939. Though I wonder if in the unlikely event that the Thai authorities, were to declare war on the U.K. And therefore imprison Brits living in Surin. Would you then suddenly become a patriot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 On 7/16/2017 at 1:40 PM, SheungWan said: Funny how the guys who bemoan the absence of 'impartiality' usually find the answer in some nutcase websites. 29 minutes ago, SheungWan said: There are a number of Conspiracy Theory Brexiteer guys on this forum who support Putin, who in today's world props up Assad dropping chemical weapons on his own people, so enough with the faux indignant responses from them. 19 minutes ago, SheungWan said: I guess some guys would have liked Saddam Hussein to have stayed to continue dropping gas bombs on the Marsh Arabs. Its probably better to give up on the outright lies and rely on innuendos - as per the last quoted post implying that all those who opposed the Iraq war were in favour of Saddam killing people.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 hours ago, melvinmelvin said: fataltities aside, (maybe he can offset the 179 to lives spared in NI?) anyway, Blair is now keen on halting Brexit; according to snippet in The Telegraph; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/15/tony-blair-necessary-brexit-doesnt-happen/ It would be crass to "offset" fatalities. I was making the point that Blair wasn't always wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nontabury Posted July 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2017 16 hours ago, elliss said: Nope , he lives in fear , his face shows it . J.C. our next democratically elected leader , will ensure a unbiased /unbribed enquiry , into the Bliar engineered war , in which we lost so many fellow countrymen . He will be charged , and found guilty as charged , a War criminal , of the first order . The Tower awaits, justice will be served , ASAP . Agree, but Jerymy Corbyn as our next leader.presumably with Diana Abbott as Chancellor of the Exchequer. Just think about it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: Its probably better to give up on the outright lies and rely on innuendos - as per the last quoted post implying that all those who opposed the Iraq war were in favour of Saddam killing people.... It's desperate times for Blair fanboys who are forever grateful to him for allowing them to make their dough from his lax management of the finance industry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dick dasterdly Posted July 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Khun Han said: It's desperate times for Blair fanboys who are forever grateful to him for allowing them to make their dough from his lax management of the finance industry More importantly (?), despite being a known liar who will say anything to support his own, personal money making cause - he supports the remain campaign.... So even a few of those who agree that he is contemptible, will change 'their tune' - and decide that his opinions are now exemplary.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, nontabury said: Agree, but Jerymy Corbyn as our next leader.presumably with Diana Abbott as Chancellor of the Exchequer. Just think about it. I'm afraid it's far worse than you portray. I see Jeremy Corbyn as PM, ( I don't think there will be any Jews in the cabinet) John McDonnell as Chancellor (Communists are the best qualified to run Capitalist States) Diane Abbott as Defence Secretary.(Jeremy has, of course, said he won't press the red button so I think he will give it to Diane to do as she sees fit.) Sorry, I can't continue, I have to leave the room, I am starting to weep uncontrollably. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-german-politicians-irish-british-disgrace-farcical-a7843526.html Are European friends are sniggering about our lack of preparedness. May and her little band of negotiators aren't ready for any kind of talks about Brexit. Total incompetence. Embarrassing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthperson Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Grouse said: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-german-politicians-irish-british-disgrace-farcical-a7843526.html Are European friends are sniggering about our lack of preparedness. May and her little band of negotiators aren't ready for any kind of talks about Brexit. Total incompetence. Embarrassing. "Senior German politicians reportedly launched a scathing attack " Typical Tabloid journalism -- unverified statements designed to wind up the readers who believe such nonsense to be "fact"...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, Grouse said: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-german-politicians-irish-british-disgrace-farcical-a7843526.html Are European friends are sniggering about our lack of preparedness. May and her little band of negotiators aren't ready for any kind of talks about Brexit. Total incompetence. Embarrassing. I'm surprised you can't see the cunning plan. They are using the "Chief" Bromden method of negotiation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 hour ago, nontabury said: Fair enough ,your not a patriot,and that your only for you, and your family. Thank god, the majority of Brits did not think like you in 1939. Though I wonder if in the unlikely event that the Thai authorities, were to declare war on the U.K. And therefore imprison Brits living in Surin. Would you then suddenly become a patriot. No, I would go to Germany and stay with my daughter. 1939, that's 78 years ago, what about the battle of Waterloo, surely that deserves a mention, "give me the night or give me the Prussians" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Grouse said: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-german-politicians-irish-british-disgrace-farcical-a7843526.html Are European friends are sniggering about our lack of preparedness. May and her little band of negotiators aren't ready for any kind of talks about Brexit. Total incompetence. Embarrassing. Fine Gael stirring the poo again but only via the inaptly named Independent. I'm embarrassed now that i actually bothered to read it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 hours ago, aright said: I'm surprised you can't see the cunning plan. They are using the "Chief" Bromden method of negotiation. Well the UK is looking increasingly like a lunatic asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 hours ago, soalbundy said: No, I would go to Germany and stay with my daughter. 1939, that's 78 years ago, what about the battle of Waterloo, surely that deserves a mention, "give me the night or give me the Prussians" I'll bet the Brexiters will knock Blucher; bloody Germans! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebhard_Leberecht_von_Blücher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aright Posted July 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2017 Be very careful 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40630322 Simple explanation of ECJ ( not to be confused with ECHR ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, aright said: Be very careful Daft blucher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aright Posted July 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2017 58 minutes ago, Grouse said: Well the UK is looking increasingly like a lunatic asylum. Sometimes you find pearls of wisdom in the L Bin During a visit to a mental asylum, a visitor asked the director how to determine whether or not a patient should be institutionalised. “Well,” said the director, “we fill up a bathtub, then we offer a teaspoon, a teacup and a bucket to the patient, and ask him to empty the bathtub.” “ Oh, I see,” said the visitor. “A normal person would use the bucket because it is bigger than the spoon or the teacup.” “No,” said the director, “a normal person would pull out the plug. Do you want the bed near the window?” 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 hours ago, nauseus said: Fine Gael stirring the poo again but only via the inaptly named Independent. I'm embarrassed now that i actually bothered to read it! Don't be,you should read all the publications going to get a feel for whats going on, I even read the Daily Express for light entertainment, the 'by jingo' comments of the true blue Brits are the best laugh going. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 5 hours ago, aright said: I'm surprised you can't see the cunning plan. They are using the "Chief" Bromden method of negotiation. As Bromden, they will free themselves, (in time ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Grouse said: Well the UK is looking increasingly like a lunatic asylum. Monty Python also comes to mind . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 hour ago, soalbundy said: Don't be,you should read all the publications going to get a feel for whats going on, I even read the Daily Express for light entertainment, the 'by jingo' comments of the true blue Brits are the best laugh going. I must admit I don't bother with the national press much. A lot of bias from both sides. I just try to read the links, if attached to a post here, to go through the motions and see if there is actually any credible and/or relevant information but of course there almost always isn't. I like to check the sports pages though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Land borders and brexit Every now and then I see mentioning of the border between Ireland and the rest. Can't say I remember any mentioning of the border between Gibraltar and Spain, how come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 loyalty/concerted action: If I remember correctly May has on a number of occasions said that the brexit can be hacked in the alloted 2 years, demanding but doable. When the PM is stressing this I perceive this as the UK governments official policy. Now, I read a somewhat different message from the Minister of Finance, phases, step by step, nee way this can be hacked in 2 years. I thought that the cabinet spoke with one voice (outside of cabinet meetings) or is this not so in UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 41 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said: loyalty/concerted action: If I remember correctly May has on a number of occasions said that the brexit can be hacked in the alloted 2 years, demanding but doable. When the PM is stressing this I perceive this as the UK governments official policy. Now, I read a somewhat different message from the Minister of Finance, phases, step by step, nee way this can be hacked in 2 years. I thought that the cabinet spoke with one voice (outside of cabinet meetings) or is this not so in UK? Normally yes, but they cannot hold it totally together right now. What you are referring to above is an indication of factional jockeying for position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimmybkk Posted July 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2017 11 hours ago, Grouse said: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-german-politicians-irish-british-disgrace-farcical-a7843526.html Are European friends are sniggering about our lack of preparedness. May and her little band of negotiators aren't ready for any kind of talks about Brexit. Total incompetence. Embarrassing. Blame that fool Cameron. It was him who called the referendum on Brexit. It was him who said that if the result of the referendum was that the majority of voters were in favour of leaving the EU, the UK would leave. It was him who stated publicly (lied) that he would stay on as PM regardless of the outcome of the referendum. And it was him who resigned and ran off like the wimp that he is immediately after the election. May's been left picking up the pieces of the mess left behind by that half-wit Cameron and the self-serving wool he pulled over the nation's eyes... Disgusting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 hours ago, jimmybkk said: Blame that fool Cameron. It was him who called the referendum on Brexit. It was him who said that if the result of the referendum was that the majority of voters were in favour of leaving the EU, the UK would leave. It was him who stated publicly (lied) that he would stay on as PM regardless of the outcome of the referendum. And it was him who resigned and ran off like the wimp that he is immediately after the election. May's been left picking up the pieces of the mess left behind by that half-wit Cameron and the self-serving wool he pulled over the nation's eyes... Disgusting. The Government is negotiating like a half-wit because of Cameron? What a great blame-school analysis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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