Hatari Fan remote control

[Kiniyeow]

Has anyone seen a place in Chiang Mai that sells or repairs a fan remote control?  The one for my wall mounted Hatari fan is on it's last legs.  Tried new alkaline batters, but no difference.

[lopburi3]

Last legs would indicate it is working so may be the fan unit that is bad.  I have two remote floor models and remotes do not look the same but both operate either unit so probably all there fans use the same control codes.  Suspect a fan repair shop could find new control if unable to find elsewhere.  

[kaptainrob]

Amorn sell all types of remotes.

 

Chances are the fan needs a clean and lube.  Disassemble plastic covers and clean all dust away from shaft and bearings, lubricate sparingly with Singer machine oil and rotate whole assembly so as the oil penetrates bearings.

[jonwilly]

Amorn has provided me with 2 Remotes, I keep dropping them as I do with my True visions remote control.

There is a repair facility behind Niyom Pananich who will replace, Free the True Visions remote.

 

john

 

[junglechef]

I ordered one from Siam Tv this week

[Kiniyeow]

Thanks all, I haven't been to Amorn in a while, so I think I will try there first.

[taotoo]

On 11/9/2016 at 4:46 PM, kaptainrob said:

Amorn sell all types of remotes.

 

Chances are the fan needs a clean and lube.  Disassemble plastic covers and clean all dust away from shaft and bearings, lubricate sparingly with Singer machine oil and rotate whole assembly so as the oil penetrates bearings.

 

Does compressed air remove the dust okay, and do you know where I can buy Singer oil (HomePro mai mee, though they did try to sell me WD40 which seized the last fan I tried it on..)?

[amexpat]

On 11/10/2016 at 0:20 PM, Kiniyeow said:

Thanks all, I haven't been to Amorn in a while, so I think I will try there first.

 

I went there today with my Hatari fan remote.  No have, she said. 

[Kiniyeow]

Uggg, guess I will have to try at Siam TV and see if they can order one for me.

[kaptainrob]

23 hours ago, taotoo said:

 

Does compressed air remove the dust okay, and do you know where I can buy Singer oil (HomePro mai mee, though they did try to sell me WD40 which seized the last fan I tried it on..)?

Yes compressed air is ok.  Amorn, Global, BigC all usually stock Singer oil.

WD40 is water-based and over-rated.

[garryjohns]

3 hours ago, kaptainrob said:

Yes compressed air is ok.  Amorn, Global, BigC all usually stock Singer oil.

WD40 is water-based and over-rated.

   

WD40 is water-based and over-rated.

 

What utter nonsense kapitan.

 

Where on earth did you get that idea from?

[kaptainrob]

WD40 contains mineral oil, solvents and water.  It is a poor lubricant, but a great 'cleaner' and actually disperses water.  I used it exclusively in a marine application for that purpose.  Domestically, it will not stop rust when applied to metals due to water forming in the exchange from liquid to vapour via propellant expansion.  The best rust/corrosion protection is found in lanolin or pure grease-based sprays - commonly sold as chain lubricant in Thailand.

[garryjohns]

3 hours ago, kaptainrob said:

WD40 contains mineral oil, solvents and water.  It is a poor lubricant, but a great 'cleaner' and actually disperses water.  I used it exclusively in a marine application for that purpose.  Domestically, it will not stop rust when applied to metals due to water forming in the exchange from liquid to vapour via propellant expansion.  The best rust/corrosion protection is found in lanolin or pure grease-based sprays - commonly sold as chain lubricant in Thailand.

 

Hang on kaptain, first you said WD40 was water based , which it definitely is not [as i said]

 

Now you say it "contains" water, and this, i also refute.

 It is not intended to be a 100% all purpose  lube, because of it's very low viscosity,many uses need heavier oils for lube. therefore is a great penetrating oil , water displacer, and as you say a great cleaner ,which, is basically all it claims to be;

WD-40 is the trademark name of a penetrating oil and water-displacing spray. 

 

By its nature of ingredients it can also evaporate quite fast . solvents etc, but not water causing this.

 

But for the use as prescribed in this thread, yes it is ideal,and for most applications within the guidelines it is far from 'over rated" IMO

 

Anyway to digress, how about showing any info pertaining to your claims;

One, that is is as you said "water based" and two, that it even "contains water"

 

 I will gladly admit being wrong if/when you can show proof. 

 

 

[kaptainrob]

10 minutes ago, garryjohns said:

 

Hang on kaptain, first you said WD40 was water based , which it definitely is not [as i said]

 

Now you say it "contains" water, and this, i also refute.

 It is not intended to be a 100% all purpose  lube, because of it's very low viscosity,many uses need heavier oils for lube. therefore is a great penetrating oil , water displacer, and as you say a great cleaner ,which, is basically all it claims to be;

WD-40 is the trademark name of a penetrating oil and water-displacing spray. 

 

By its nature of ingredients it can also evaporate quite fast . solvents etc, but not water causing this.

 

But for the use as prescribed in this thread, yes it is ideal,and for most applications within the guidelines it is far from 'over rated" IMO

 

Anyway to digress, how about showing any info pertaining to your claims;

One, that is is as you said "water based" and two, that it even "contains water"

 

 I will gladly admit being wrong if/when you can show proof. 

 

 

Garry I cannot show proof as you ask.  All I can do is reiterate that which was told me by an Aussie industrial chemist.  His Queensland based company produced industrial chemicals largely by reverse-engineering to meet 2nd tier and/or generic demand.  They did not produce a WD40 copy, only degreasers.

 

His company was supplying major cleaning chemicals to my business and we became well acquainted.  Whilst observing our use of WD40 he merely pointed out a few facts (from his own knowledge) which included that the standard WD40 aerosol contained water or water-based.  I scoffed at this idea but was told the non-aerosol products (long phased out) were an old formula and petroleum product-based whereas the new formula called for a water-based 'green' solvent.  The mineral oil(s) component is very small in comparison.

 

An engineer friend uses Safety-Klean (I think it's called) for parts washing, it's a water-based solvent.  Google it.

 

I'm not saying my information is kosher though it came from a reliable source and I took his advice re lanolin and grease-sprays for lubrication and corrosion protection.

[lopburi3]

Believe this is about as close as we can get - WIKI - the formula is secret and never registered to keep it that way.

 

Quote

 

Formulation[edit]

WD-40's formula is a trade secret. To avoid disclosing its composition, the product was not patented in 1953, and the window of opportunity for patenting it has long since closed.^[4][7] WD-40's main ingredients as supplied in aerosol cans, according to U.S. Material Safety Data Sheet information, are:

• 50% "aliphatic hydrocarbons". The manufacturer's website claims this ratio in the current formulation cannot accurately be described as Stoddard solvent, a similar mixture of hydrocarbons.^[8]
• <25% petroleum base oil. Presumably a mineral oil or light lubricating oil.
• 12–18% low vapor pressure aliphatic hydrocarbon. Reduces the liquid's viscosity so that it can be used in aerosols. The hydrocarbon evaporates during application.
• 2–3% carbon dioxide. A propellant which is now used instead of the original liquefied petroleum gas to reduce WD-40's flammability.
• <10% inert ingredients.

The German version of the mandatory EU safety sheet lists the following safety-relevant ingredients:

• 60–80% hydrogen-treated heavy naphtha (a petroleum product used in wick-type cigarette lighters).
• 1–5% carbon dioxide

 

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[garryjohns]

17 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Believe this is about as close as we can get - WIKI - the formula is secret and never registered to keep it that way.

 

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No mention of it being water based or even containing  water.

 

My case rests.

[hougourou]

WD 40 composition aside, I'd suggest that the OP first isolate the problem by seeing if the buttons on the unit still function.  If not, try the cleaning suggested above.  If it's the remote (and yes, mine failed), take it apart (cross head screws) and clean the contacts with a spray contact cleaner.  Worked for me.

[Dellboy218]

4 hours ago, garryjohns said:

 

No mention of it being water based or even containing  water.

 

My case rests.

From the horses mouth!

[Dellboy218]

On 11/11/2016 at 8:29 PM, amexpat said:

 

I went there today with my Hatari fan remote.  No have, she said. 

Which Amorn was that?  I know they have some remotes at Hangdong Road Big C, whether they would be suitable is another matter.  Just wondering whether its that branch or across all of them.

[amexpat]

The one on the North side of the Moat by Icon Square.  Manee Nopparat rd. 

 

Who knows?  They may have them depending on who you ask but I didn't see anything of the sort. 

[Dellboy218]

Amorn  Hangdong Road Big C.  Universal fan controller.

[amexpat]

Cool 

[garryjohns]

On 11/14/2016 at 11:29 AM, Dellboy218 said:

From the horses mouth!

 

Thank you

 

I figure kaptainrob should maybe not post things as though they are factual when they are in fact, not factual.

 

Maybe his Aussie "industrial chemist" had an ulterior motive when telling this furphy.

 

Anyway now all who need to know, and want to know, can rest assured that WD40 definitely does not contain any water at all and that Rob had simply been misinformed .