US election 2016: China eyes chance to weaken US power

[Ulysses G.]

White people made America great with lots of help from minorities. Constantly disparaging caucasions is nothing but reverse racism.

[Jingthing]

White people made America great with lots of help from minorities. Constantly disparaging caucasions is nothing but reverse racism.

You seriously said that? OMG!

[Ulysses G.]

Yep. Serious indeed. Hate for white people is just as racist as for other races.

[geriatrickid]

On 11/10/2016 at 7:33 AM, Jonmarleesco said:

I hope for the astronauts' sake it doesn't proclaim 'Made in China' anywhere on the spacecraft.

 

You won't want to be flying on some Boeing or Airbus products then. nor will you want to be using some very  high end technology which depend upon Chinese sourced parts.

[geriatrickid]

20 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

White people made America great with lots of help from minorities. Constantly disparaging caucasions is nothing but reverse racism.

 

What exactly are "White" people? Do you mean the original English,French and German immigrants who  arrived into a sparsely populated region  and who  slaughtered the local people and stole their assets? Today we call that theft and genocide.  Or do you mean the White people who built an economy based upon slavery? You do realize that had it not been for the slavery of "non whites" the foundations of the US economy would not have been  built and all those agricultural products including cotton that sustained the country could not have been grown and exported. You know those Chinese who  worked on the railroad? America would not have been united by a railroad for 25+ years had they not been there and the country would have been a very different   nation. What of the the Portuguese and Spanish settlers? Ahh but they can be rather swarthy, so obviously they can't be "white", right? The Mexicans who  had settled in the Southwest are not deemed to be "white" and yet they had built up the region only to have the "Whites" come and take their land. What of the Italian and irish immigrants, who were not deemed to  be "White", or as some would call them not Nativists. Their  hard work built much of the country. And what of various  other ethnic groups who made sizeable contributions?  Perhaps you have misspoken as your usual position is one of enlightenment and non bigotry.

 

 

[sgtsabai]

And the genocide of Native Americans continue to this day.

[Ulysses G.]

Pretty much the way of the world back then. Ridiculous to pretend other races were not doing very similar things all over the planet. SURPRISE: White people are no more perfect than anyone else.

[soalbundy]

On 11/11/2016 at 11:19 AM, Publicus said:

 

I started high school when John F. Kennedy was sworn in as 35th Potus. I watched it live on tv cause in Massachusetts they let us out of school to see it. I also watched the moon landing live on television -- black and white tv. Spare the lectures about Dr. von Braun plse thx.

 

This poster is well aware of the period 1945 - 1949 when USSR and USA competed to sign up German scientists who'd been in the service of the Third Reich. The Soviets led by Stalin got some, we got the better ones, which is a contributing factor to why USA won the Cold War against the Russian totalitarian communism that had long infested the Kremlin.

 

For roughly 20 years now USA and CCP Dictators in Beijing have been invading the cyber infrastructure and systems of one another. Neither side is innocent of cyber invasions, although CCP Dictators certainly benefit massively from accessing USA computer network and cyber capabilities.

 

While the focus of the Beijing Dictators is to steal knowledge from USA corporation -- defense contractors especially (Edw. Snowden) -- the focus of USA cyber invasions of CCP cyber systems is rather to shut 'em down and screw 'em up.

 

We won't mess with their space activity when humans are involved in shots or travels of any kind, but we've been messing with their stolen technology and unmanned systems and we'll continue to do so. The Dictators don't like it of course, but there's little the tyrants can do other than to clean up the latest mess.

 

CCP Dictators will of course have their day in space, but they're having to steal and then to debug their systems constantly.

 

The fact remains Dr. Werner von Braun was a welcomed and recruited immigrant to the United States. If you're opposed to it, then do carry on.

He only became an immigrant after America protected him from prosecution.

[Publicus]

3 hours ago, soalbundy said:

He only became an immigrant after America protected him from prosecution.

 

Rightfully national security as the Cold War was initiating between USA and the Free World against the totalitarian bureaucracy of the Russian Soviet Union.

 

USA accomplished much with Dr. von Braun in eventually winning the Cold War against Russian Soviet totalitarian bureaucracy.

 

Your welcome.

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, Publicus said:

 

Rightfully national security as the Cold War was initiating between USA and the Free World against the totalitarian bureaucracy of the Russian Soviet Union.

 

USA accomplished much with Dr. von Braun in eventually winning the Cold War against Russian Soviet totalitarian bureaucracy.

 

Your welcome.

so murder is OK if you are the right sort of person

[Publicus]

4 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

so murder is OK if you are the right sort of person

 

Sensationalism and absent specifics. Self-righteous and self-appointed smug besides.

 

Let's talk about China as a 2000 year imperialist continental power focused in east Asia and now trying to expand across the entire continent to Europe. Let's talk about organ harvesting in CCP and its gulags.

 

Dr. Lui Jiabao who in 2010 was awarded the Nobel Peace Medal had already been in a CCP gulag for subversion of the state by advocating a gradual and peaceful change to democracy. Dr. Lui's chair at the ceremony remained empty as he continued in his 11-year sentence.

 

Gulag.

 

You're mature enough to know well that focusing against the USA only and exclusively absolves historical China and the present dynasty of CCP Emperors in business suits in their grandiose design to extend their censoring and punishing dictatorship across the continent and the world, to include presently against Hong Kong.

 

You'd know this. So perhaps you support it. Promote it indirectly.

[NickJ]

Well, If they make it to Mars first it really will be the Red Planet....

[Publicus]

1 hour ago, NickJ said:

Well, If they make it to Mars first it really will be the Red Planet....

 

It's metaphoric that CCP when it shoots up its second rover to the moon in 2018, they will land their baby on the Dark Side.

 

But it's also a telling statement.

 

Despite such advances in lunar knowledge, the Chinese space program has so far mostly repeated feats that its U.S. and Soviet counterparts achieved decades ago. 

 

http://www.history.com/news/china-plans-historic-landing-on-dark-side-of-the-moon

 

 

Nasa has several hundred photos of the Dark Side, most of which have been cyber grabbed from it by CCP cyber units of the PLA. The whole CCP space project is run by the PLA. Xi Jinping is their captive.

 

Taikonaut moon travels will be next decade. 

 

Come to the Dark Side.

[Usernames]

15 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

You know those Chinese who  worked on the railroad? America would not have been united by a railroad for 25+ years had they not been there and the country would have been a very different   nation.

 

No, all it means is that freed slaves and Irish would have built the entire railroad from the east to the west.

[Usernames]

15 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

The Mexicans who  had settled in the Southwest are not deemed to be "white" and yet they had built up the region only to have the "Whites" come and take their land.

 

Nope. The Southwest was so sparsely populated that the Mexican government advertised for Anglo settlers to come in and populate the territory. The "Mexicans" who were there, were largely Spaniards, descendents of hidalgos or lower level aristos who in most cases were white and blue-eyed.  Sort of like the people who run Mexico today.