More TM30

[cpbkk]

I know this topic is quite worn, but the owner of my condo (who resides in Europe) has so far refused to go through "the headache" of complying with the law of registering me as his tenant using TM30.  

 

A bit of background: my work permit and visa are issued in Rayong, but I don't reside in that province.  I am a Bangkok resident, American citizen, on a non-B extension (my visa and work permit must be extended/renewed by 31 January -- before my next 90 day check-in).  To make things easy (but probably more difficult in the long run) I've been using my office address in Rayong as my residence.  At my last 90 day check-in (in Rayong) i was told that the owner had never submitted a TM30 and that this must be done by my next check-in.  To be in full compliance, I want to move my address to Bangkok (not Rayong) and need to persuade my owner to comply.  The process seems easy enough.

 

Here are my questions:

1. What will happen if I show up at Chaeng Wattana with a TM28 anyway? (Without my owner completing the TM30)

2. Is there any other documentation the owner must submit with the TM30?  The TM30 form itself does not specify.

3. Any problems renewing my visa and work permit without being in compliance in either Rayong or Bangkok?

 

Requirements seems to vary from district to district about the TM330 so I'd like to be clear on the requirements for Bangkok.

 

Thanks in advance for your help and any guidance.  

[ubonjoe]

Bangkok immigration is not as strict on the TM30 reporting as some other offices are.

You could likely change your address to Bangkok without a TM30 being done.

The next question would be where do you plan on applying for your next extension. If working in Rayong and have a work permit issued there that is where you will have to do it.

Where are you staying while in Rayong? 

[PattayaAJF]

5 hours ago, cpbkk said:

I know this topic is quite worn, but the owner of my condo (who resides in Europe) has so far refused to go through "the headache" of complying with the law of registering me as his tenant using TM30.  

 

I live in Banglamung Pattaya and had a similar problem with my Thai Landlord who lives in Bangkok .. to resolve this i took a copy of my 3 year lease (in Thai and English), a copy of the house owner's Thai ID (which was part of the lease agreement) and my wife's and my passports (as the lease is in both of our names) and Chonburi Immigration said that we can be the "House Master" and we filed a TM 30 with ourselves as the "House Master" declaring ourselves as the Aliens .. 

 

earlier this year (in compliance with the rules) we lodged our TM 30s religiously (as i travel in and out of Thailand once or twice a month) and after about the 10th TM30 lodgement over a 6 month period Chonburi Immigrations told us it was not necessary for us to lodge a TM 30 every time because they already know us and they know where we live .. they did say however that if we were doing a 90 day report or seeking any type of extension or stay then we need to do a TM 30 as a part of that .. 

 

perhaps Rayong Immigration will accept you as a "House Master" as well which may help you out with this .. 

[cpbkk]

6 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Bangkok immigration is not as strict on the TM30 reporting as some other offices are.

You could likely change your address to Bangkok without a TM30 being done.

The next question would be where do you plan on applying for your next extension. If working in Rayong and have a work permit issued there that is where you will have to do it.

Where are you staying while in Rayong? 

I stay in an apartment on the top floor of our Rayong office.  But only there a couple of nights per week, if that.  I work primarily out of my apartment in BKK.  My work permit and extension will be filed in Rayong.  My name is on the lease of the BKK apartment and I use my BKK address for all official correspondence like banking and health.  Any issues (or restrictions) in having a primary residence in a province other than where the extension and WP are issued?  Rayong definitely has it's charms, but I prefer to be in the big city.

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, cpbkk said:

I stay in an apartment on the top floor of our Rayong office.  But only there a couple of nights per week, if that.  I work primarily out of my apartment in BKK.  My work permit and extension will be filed in Rayong.  My name is on the lease of the BKK apartment and I use my BKK address for all official correspondence like banking and health.  Any issues (or restrictions) in having a primary residence in a province other than where the extension and WP are issued?  Rayong definitely has it's charms, but I prefer to be in the big city.

Immigration normally wants you do your 90 day reports at the office that did your extension unless your formally change your address to their area of responsibility. But in your case it is a catch 22 because you have to do your extension where your work permit was issued. You could try doing your 90 day reports to immigration in Bangkok by showing proof of residence for Bangkok.

Another option would be to have your employer do the the TM30 for Rayong since they are staying at their office building as part of your arrangements with them. It would not be that unusual for an employer to supply your housing.

[Maestro]

9 hours ago, PattayaAJF said:

 

...perhaps Rayong Immigration will accept you as a "House Master" as well which may help you out with this .. 

The Ranong immigration office correctly follows the Immigration Act, section 4 of which clearly and unambiguously defines you as the "house-master, ie the chief possessor of the residence in your capacity as the tenant". The same definition also applies to the OP.

 

The owner of a residence who rents it out to another person is no longer its possessor and therefore is not its house-master as defined by the Immigration Act, but he remains of course the owner.

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[PattayaAJF]

13 hours ago, Maestro said:

The Ranong immigration office correctly follows the Immigration Act, section 4 of which clearly and unambiguously defines you as the "house-master, ie the chief possessor of the residence in your capacity as the tenant". The same definition also applies to the OP.

 

The owner of a residence who rents it out to another person is no longer its possessor and therefore is not its house-master as defined by the Immigration Act, but he remains of course the owner.

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yes .. thanks for this .. now i understand as well ..