Aleppo battle ‘reaches its end’ in devastating blow to rebels

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Aleppo battle ‘reaches its end’ in devastating blow to rebels

 

 

ALEPPO: -- The battle for Aleppo has reached its end, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said on Monday, marking a devastating blow for the rebellion against President Bashar al-Assad.

 

His army and its allies have pounded oppostion fighters in their remaining pockets in the east and are now in the ‘final stages’ of recapturing the whole city, a Syrian general told reporters.

 

“The battle in eastern Aleppo should end quickly. They (rebels) don’t have much time. They either have to surrender or die,” Lieutenant General Zaid al-Saleh, head of the government’s Aleppo security committee, said in the recaptured Sheikh Saeed district of the city.

 

Syria’s ally Russia says some 100,000 civilians have now fled eastern Aleppo and more than 2,200 rebels have surrendered since the start of the battle to retake the city.

 

But while the Assad regime can now celebrate its greatest victory in nearly six years of civil war, the conflict continues.

 

Syria’s chief opposition coordinator Riad Hijab said on Monday that defeat in Aleppo would not weaken the resolve of opponents of President Assad to remove him from power.

 

And swathes of the country remain in rebel hands, with ISIL jihadists storming back into Palmyra at the weekend, having been forced out of the ancient desert city by the army in March.

 

 

-- © Copyright Euronews 2016-12-13

[optad]

What a waste. THere will never be a solution for the factions in this war. It will continue even when there is nothing left. So many micro issues which they will always chest off over. Legacy of this civil war is now global as many countries have these  refugees to house, monitor and rehabilitate.

[craigt3365]

Well, at least the misery of those in Aleppo is coming to an end.  Even though they've got nothing left to go back to.  Not a good way for Assad to win "hearts and minds".

 

This civil war is far from over.

[phantomfiddler]

Being a big better on sure things, I,ll wager a beer that it ain,t over yet ! Like a relationship with a Pattaya bar girl :) 

[Credo]

I hope they haven't captured it the same way they captured Palmyra.   

[retarius]

It changes little. Except that the residents were able to enjoy a massive celebration last night. Kudos to the Syrian army for bringing a relatively quick end to the suffering of innocents. 

[craigt3365]

7 minutes ago, retarius said:

It changes little. Except that the residents were able to enjoy a massive celebration last night. Kudos to the Syrian army for bringing a relatively quick end to the suffering of innocents. 

Quick end?  Over 4 years of barrel bombs and chemical attacks, over 100,000 people killed and some millions displaced.  Yes, kudos to the Syrian and Russian armies.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aleppo_(2012–present)

 

[retarius]

3 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Quick end?  Over 4 years of barrel bombs and chemical attacks, over 100,000 people killed and some millions displaced.  Yes, kudos to the Syrian and Russian armies.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aleppo_(2012–present)

As you probably know Craig, I am aware that the battle of Aleppo started when the terrorists invaded East Aleppo in 2012. I was referring to this final phase which seemed set to drag on for months with ceasefires and the like, allowing the terrorists to rearm. Best to lance the boil and get the pus out quickly at the end, less pain all round.

3 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

 

 

[Stargeezr]

Today  with  Aleppo falling  to Assad's  military  and  Russia's bombs   these  two

war criminals   must  be   so  proud of  themselves....  Way   to    go   Putin..

Puff up  your  ego  a   little  bit   more..  Cowards  love  each  others  company  so

you  should  invite Assad  to  the  Kremlin  again!

Geezer

[craigt3365]

4 minutes ago, retarius said:

As you probably know Craig, I am aware that the battle of Aleppo started when the terrorists invaded East Aleppo in 2012. I was referring to this final phase which seemed set to drag on for months with ceasefires and the like, allowing the terrorists to rearm. Best to lance the boil and get the pus out quickly at the end, less pain all round.

 

From my Wiki leak.  Look at all the different factions involved.  What a mess.

Quote

The Battle of Aleppo (Arabic: معركة حلب‎‎) was a military confrontation in Aleppo, the largest city in Syria, between the Syrian opposition (including Free Syrian Army, and Sunni fighters including Levant Front) in partial cooperation with the Army of Conquest^[88] against the Syrian Armed Forces of the Syrian Government, supported by Hezbollah and Shiite militias and Russia,^[10][89] and against the Kurdish People's Protection Units.

 

There's no end in sight to the suffering of the Syrian people.  Foreign belligerents should all leave.

[chilli42]

It's a fine mess.  Not sure what happens to IS as the purpose of their existence, the Caliphate, will soon be gone.  I am sure the remaining mischief makers will find room in their ranks for them.  The US will continue to support their favorite rebel groups.  Of course the Kurds and the Trurks can now have at it.  How did this all get started ... wonder if they are still looking for those weapons of mass destruction?

[craigt3365]

16 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

It's a fine mess.  Not sure what happens to IS as the purpose of their existence, the Caliphate, will soon be gone.  I am sure the remaining mischief makers will find room in their ranks for them.  The US will continue to support their favorite rebel groups.  Of course the Kurds and the Trurks can now have at it.  How did this all get started ... wonder if they are still looking for those weapons of mass destruction?

The US provided limited support to some rebels groups who were against Assad.  Remember at the time, Assad was using chemicals against his own people.  I've no sympathy for Assad.  Just for the innocent civilians.  It's an absolute mess.

 

WMD is off topic.

[oldsailor35]

All prisoners should be kept in camps and used to clear up the mess and rubble that they have caused, under armed guards.

[oldsailor35]

3 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Today  with  Aleppo falling  to Assad's  military  and  Russia's bombs   these  two

war criminals   must  be   so  proud of  themselves....  Way   to    go   Putin..

Puff up  your  ego  a   little  bit   more..  Cowards  love  each  others  company  so

you  should  invite Assad  to  the  Kremlin  again!

Geezer

You appear not to understand that Assad is the legally elected ruler of Syria, rather than the  rebel scum from throughout the world. In fact mercenaries supported by Obama .

 

[simple1]

49 minutes ago, oldsailor35 said:

You appear not to understand that Assad is the legally elected ruler of Syria, rather than the  rebel scum from throughout the world. In fact mercenaries supported by Obama .

 

 

The election was a sham, detail of the rigged process...

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anonymous-2/assads-sham-election_b_9611636.html

[RuamRudy]

8 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

The election was a sham, detail of the rigged process...

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anonymous-2/assads-sham-election_b_9611636.html

 

Let's hope we see Assad in chains in the Hague before too long, although I shall not hold my breath.

[craigt3365]

4 hours ago, oldsailor35 said:

All prisoners should be kept in camps and used to clear up the mess and rubble that they have caused, under armed guards.

Cleaning up the mess alongside the others who also bombed Aleppo into the ground.  Right?

[craigt3365]

4 hours ago, oldsailor35 said:

You appear not to understand that Assad is the legally elected ruler of Syria, rather than the  rebel scum from throughout the world. In fact mercenaries supported by Obama .

 

As was mentioned, the election was a sham.  There's a lot of debate as to what Syria actually is right now.  Other than messed up! LOL

 

Don't forget, many of the so called rebel scum were just ordinary citizens fed up with Assad.  And for good reason.  It is a civil war also.  Blame starts at the top. 

[tonbridgebrit]

9 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

Well, at least the misery of those in Aleppo is coming to an end.  Even though they've got nothing left to go back to.  Not a good way for Assad to win "hearts and minds".

 

This civil war is far from over.

Yes, the "misery of those in Aleppo is coming to an end."  We agree on something, then.

Do you reckon, if the rebels had given up two months ago, well, the misery would have ended two months ago ?
See, I'm convinced that the reason why the rebels have managed to hold out until now, is because, because they're getting aid and support from people outside of Syria. Do you think so ?

The OP ends with "And swathes of the country remain in rebel hands, with ISIL jihadists storming back into Palmyra at the weekend, having been forced out of the ancient desert city by the army in March."  Okay, let's hope that the ISIL jihadists in Palmyra are quickly removed. After all, all of us are against ISIL, right ?  I really do wonder, the rebels in Aleppo, were some of them in ISIL ??

 

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed. 

[simple1]

11 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said:

Yes, the "misery of those in Aleppo is coming to an end." 

 

Looks like wishful thinking with the reported mass murders, including women and children, by Assad forces in Aleppo

[the guest]

20 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Today  with  Aleppo falling  to Assad's  military  and  Russia's bombs   these  two

war criminals   must  be   so  proud of  themselves....  Way   to    go   Putin..

Puff up  your  ego  a   little  bit   more..  Cowards  love  each  others  company  so

you  should  invite Assad  to  the  Kremlin  again!

Geezer

 

What you mean like George W Bush (US) and Tony Blair (UK) who also instigated and lied about WMD's, which led to thousands of innocent people being killed ?

[Thorgal]

 
Looks like wishful thinking with the reported mass murders, including women and children, by Assad forces in Aleppo

I expect a UN intervention very soon.

Some 5 to 6.000 rebels, most of them from Al Nusrah, are trapped and refuse to surrender to the Syrian army.

Apparently they've chosen to remain to fight.

Assads army will have to act fast due to the further tactical re-conquest of Palmyra which is in fact a crossroad in the desert with a recent built highway to Damascus.

Not a single word of compassion for the 500 Syrian families who have been captured in Palmyra by some 7.000 western backed militants...


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[johna]

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is a tool created by western governments to disseminate false news about Syria, through main steam media. 

 

“The civilians, they can stay, they can go to safe places, they can take advantage of the humanitarian arrangements that are on the ground. Nobody is going to harm the civilians."

[manarak]

19 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

The US provided limited support to some rebels groups who were against Assad.  Remember at the time, Assad was using chemicals against his own people.  I've no sympathy for Assad.  Just for the innocent civilians.  It's an absolute mess.

 

WMD is off topic.

 

Limited support? are you kidding?

the spark that ignited the fire probably came from activists trained by the US in manipulation of social media.

the weapons were very likely taken in Ghaddafi's arsenals and shipped to Syria with US support - that was probably one of the Benghazi's consulate main tasks.

US troops participated in operations with the so-called "Free Syrian Army" (but had to flee because these so-called US allies wanted kill them).

The US carried out hundreds, maybe thousands of airstikes to support their "allies" (which reject democracy)

One can only imagine how many hundreds of millions of US dollars did flow to finance the rebels

....

 

Some links:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33997408

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/16/american-commandos-forced-to-run-away-from-us-backed-syrian-rebe/

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/06/politics/khaled-khoja-free-syrian-army-u-s-support/

 

 

It seems you have sympathy for the US and for the islamists.

[Thorgal]

The US provided limited support to some rebels groups who were against Assad.  Remember at the time, Assad was using chemicals against his own people.  I've no sympathy for Assad.  Just for the innocent civilians.  It's an absolute mess.
 
WMD is off topic.

Quote from link :

"A weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to human-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of_mass_destruction

Why do you mention chemical weapons who have never been used by by the Syrian army of Assad and rule WMD's as off topic ?



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[craigt3365]

30 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Quote from link :

"A weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to human-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of_mass_destruction

Why do you mention chemical weapons who have never been used by by the Syrian army of Assad and rule WMD's as off topic ?



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With regards to WMD in Iraq many years ago, that would be an off topic discussion.

[craigt3365]

53 minutes ago, manarak said:

 

Limited support? are you kidding?

the spark that ignited the fire probably came from activists trained by the US in manipulation of social media.

the weapons were very likely taken in Ghaddafi's arsenals and shipped to Syria with US support - that was probably one of the Benghazi's consulate main tasks.

US troops participated in operations with the so-called "Free Syrian Army" (but had to flee because these so-called US allies wanted kill them).

The US carried out hundreds, maybe thousands of airstikes to support their "allies" (which reject democracy)

One can only imagine how many hundreds of millions of US dollars did flow to finance the rebels

....

 

Some links:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33997408

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/16/american-commandos-forced-to-run-away-from-us-backed-syrian-rebe/

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/06/politics/khaled-khoja-free-syrian-army-u-s-support/

 

 

It seems you have sympathy for the US and for the islamists.

That's great.  Made my day.  The Syrian civil war was started by activists trained by the US in manipulation of social media.  Unreal...

 

Not worth discussing this any more if that's how you think this started.  Sure gave me a good chuckle.  Thanks.

[dabhand]

Interesting article by Robert Fisk in The Independent entitled: There is more than one truth to tell in the awful story of Aleppo

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/aleppo-falls-to-syrian-regime-bashar-al-assad-rebels-uk-government-more-than-one-story-robert-fisk-a7471576.html

 

He also comments on the recent events in Palmyra:

 

By their own admission, the Russians flew 64 bombing sorties against the Isis attackers outside Palmyra. But given the huge columns of dust thrown up by the Isis convoys, why didn’t the American air force join in the bombardment of their greatest enemy? But no: for some reason, the US satellites and drones and intelligence just didn’t spot them – any more than they did when Isis drove identical convoys of suicide trucks to seize Palmyra when they first took the city in May 2015.

[manarak]

9 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

That's great.  Made my day.  The Syrian civil war was started by activists trained by the US in manipulation of social media.  Unreal...

 

Not worth discussing this any more if that's how you think this started.  Sure gave me a good chuckle.  Thanks.

 

here is the New York Times trying to educate you in the matter:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/world/15aid.html