mcfish Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Nah, guess i'm just a glass half full type of guy. Rather than half empty. Ya know, try and live life to the full, wake up each morning with a smile on my face, life can be fun, positivity, rather than negativity, non health and safety nazi, etc etc...So you wake up and prepare every day that you might jump off a mountain in a wing suit.. Being a positive guy and all LMAO Most likely your prepared to jump in to a bar where you can tell your fearless activities to a bored to death audience [emoji23] Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbj2 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 4 hours ago, mcfish said: It afraid statistics don't support you. You can drive as safely as you like until that minibus driver forces you into a ditch... Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk If you really look at the stats, most of the killed and injured are riding two wheeled vehicles not driving cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfish Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 If you really look at the stats, most of the killed and injured are riding two wheeled vehicles not driving cars.My observations show many drivers are close to insane. I would like to see the statistics you have on hand Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 There's a precedent dating back to 1939 for flying monkeys being dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Gibbons might do better as they don't collide in mid air. Lazy staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I've done the Flight of the Gibbon and I cannot see how anyone could possibly collide with anyone else on this zipline run; it doesn't make sense! Only one single rig is ever on the wire at any given moment and the traffic is entirely one way only, so how... If a rider does not stabilize, or arrive, on the destination platform then they will go backwards towards the center of the cable. This is what happened at the Flying Squirrel last year when the Chinese rider failed to put their feet down onto the platform and ended going backwards towards towards the cable center point and ended up colliding with the other rider who had been launched. That is why it is so critical for the guide on the launch platform to receive an all clear signal from the guide on the arrival platform before sending the next rider down the line.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B in Thailand Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I took my family to Flight of the Gibbon when we had a holiday in Chiang Mai in 2015. The entire operation seemed professional with an emphasis on safety. My personal experience was that the staff were versed on a safe operation. At no point did we feel in danger. We were not trying to challenge any safety instructions. I highly recommend this zip line tour and look forward to another visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian guy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 14 hours ago, sweatalot said: Obviously they don't learn. Time to end it all - or give it completely in skilled foreign hands - no Thais allowed anymore in dangerous business https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2016/oct/25/dreamworld-four-people-critically-injured-at-australian-theme-park-live-updates http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/5198728.stm http://web.archive.org/web/20080718155249/http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/07/15/sweden.accident.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/flamingo-land-probe-after-two-9320361 https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/06/26/scottish-roller-coaster-derails-65-feet-above-ground-injuring-11.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, David B in Thailand said: I took my family to Flight of the Gibbon when we had a holiday in Chiang Mai in 2015. The entire operation seemed professional with an emphasis on safety. My personal experience was that the staff were versed on a safe operation. At no point did we feel in danger. We were not trying to challenge any safety instructions. I highly recommend this zip line tour and look forward to another visit. Great, but something went really wrong in this incident. I think it's wise to shut it down until they can figure out what it was, and then work to prevent the same kind of tragic accident to ever happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I do not zip line, or sky dive, or otherwise jump from a perfectly good aircraft or jet. I have not scuba dived, and rode a camel. What I have done though is go to Thailand, Belize, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, lots of places In USA and Canada, oh and China to Beijing and Shanghai, and the south part of that country as well as Hong Kong, Japan, to Tokyo, Osaka, Hanada, and Taiwan, and have enjoyed sight seeing, swimming, looking at ruins, and interesting towns, villages and cities. I do also like to snorkel, Take pictures, except selfies, and drink the local beers to taste all the different flavors. When I was in Honduras there were two people killed when their rigs failed, one lived to drown in the river below the zip line area. In Phuket one man died when the zip line failed, and the company closed shortly after that. I started thinking that both zip lines and even bungee jumps were not for me. My life may be boring, but I am still alive and even have most of my teeth. I feel lucky! Geezer, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Is this the same place that was in the news a while back after an injury to a Chinese Tourist? At that time were they not double hitching? Thank heavens I am too old and in fear of injury for such risky thrill seeking, this is not the country for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 12 hours ago, Johpa said: If a rider does not stabilize, or arrive, on the destination platform then they will go backwards towards the center of the cable. This is what happened at the Flying Squirrel last year when the Chinese rider failed to put their feet down onto the platform and ended going backwards towards towards the cable center point and ended up colliding with the other rider who had been launched. That is why it is so critical for the guide on the launch platform to receive an all clear signal from the guide on the arrival platform before sending the next rider down the line. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Agreed. Still hard to understand how to fall even if one collided. Just pucker up and take the hit. It seems obvious they had more than one rider on the line and depending on how close they got to each other, the line sags, either or neither of the riders keeps enough speed to make it to the exit platform, they hit etc. But I suspect the collision occurred near or at the exit platform while somebody was unbuckling then they fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 16 hours ago, Johpa said: Crickey! Some convoluted logic there. I am not a shareholder. I do not assume that Thais are either superior nor inferior to other people. I do know that the Thai zip line operators strive towards a safe operation no less than anywhere else. My close friends who run a zip line here are committed to safety. As for what happened, my first, yet unconfirmed reports, are an operator error. The report is that an adult and child were released in tandem and then a third adult was released before the tandem pair were secured, or perhaps even arrived at the destination platform. The two groups collided which is suggested by the internal injuries suffered by the adults. No injuries suggest they fell from the zip line itself, such as injured limbs. Visibility, or lack there of, may have been a factor as it has been foggy and misty up in the hills the past few days. But that is no excuse for launching someone before getting a clear signal. The incident did happen at Flight of the Gibbon and not in Mae Rim, but some Thai news sources used stock footage from a zip line in Mae Rim which may have led to some confusion. The article did say there was a fall. I don't think the zip line speed is fast enough to do serious injury if the people only collided while on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 The article did say there was a fall. I don't think the zip line speed is fast enough to do serious injury if the people only collided while on the line. I don' t know why the first set of tandem riders did not reach or stabilize on the arrival platform. Perhaps the premature launch of the next rider altered the cable dynamics. But in last year's accident both riders met near the middle, moving in opposite directions, giving a significant combined max speed relative to impact. Hit a brick wall at 10 mph (16 kph) and you are going to be injured. My initial report indicated that this incident involved a mid- point collision and the injuries tend to confirm this.Again, I have not been able to confirm a fall or any equipment failure, nor do I have hard confirmation on the story I heard from one informed source. The Thai press reports also initially, and erroneously, included a fall during last year's incident as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 18 hours ago, mcfish said: So you wake up and prepare every day that you might jump off a mountain in a wing suit.. Being a positive guy and all LMAO Most likely your prepared to jump in to a bar where you can tell your fearless activities to a bored to death audience Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk "Most likely"... Yeah, whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Zipline company may operate in prohibited forest zone CHIANG MAI: -- The Forest Department has been asked by Mae On district chief officer to investigate whether a zipline operator in Ban Mae Kampong is operating in 1A watershed area which is prohibited. Ms Pattharaporn Laijood, Mae On district chief officer, told reporters on Monday that she suspected the zipline operator, Night of the Gibbons, might be operating in the prohibited zone even though it claimed that legally rented the land from four locals who have So Kor 1 land right. The call for the investigation by forest officials followed an accident last Friday when three Israeli tourists suffered injuries in an accident while riding zipline. Despite the accident, the zipline operations continue as usual. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/zipline-company-may-operate-prohibited-forest-zone/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-12-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 How many people does it take to "change a light bulb" ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Zipline company may operate in prohibited forest zone Great image of uniformed Thai bureaucrats busy taking random pictures trying to look busy.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) It's so blatantly clear that local authorities actually don't have any idea what's going on in their precincts...everywhere! Edited December 20, 2016 by ChrisY1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said: It's so blatantly clear that local authorities actually don't have any idea what's going on in their precincts...everywhere! Well maybe they know but "Brown Envelopes" and all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 4 hours ago, webfact said: Zipline company may operate in prohibited forest zone CHIANG MAI: -- The Forest Department has been asked by Mae On district chief officer to investigate whether a zipline operator in Ban Mae Kampong is operating in 1A watershed area which is prohibited. Ms Pattharaporn Laijood, Mae On district chief officer, told reporters on Monday that she suspected the zipline operator, Night of the Gibbons, might be operating in the prohibited zone even though it claimed that legally rented the land from four locals who have So Kor 1 land right. The call for the investigation by forest officials followed an accident last Friday when three Israeli tourists suffered injuries in an accident while riding zipline. Despite the accident, the zipline operations continue as usual. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/zipline-company-may-operate-prohibited-forest-zone/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-12-20 "Night of the Gibbons" not been to that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 It's so blatantly clear that local authorities actually don't have any idea what's going on in their precincts...everywhere!Au contraire, they know exactly what is going on. Sometimes to save face they must feign ignorance. They may bark, but they won't bite the hand that feeds them.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 On 17/12/2559 at 9:20 PM, Gweiloman said: Have you tried this particular activity? If not, you don't know what you are talking about. I did it last year with my two daughters and I was impressed at how seriously they took the safety measures. I can't imagine how two people can collide on the zip lines as there aren't any parts where they would cross each other (everything goes in one direction only). Also, one can't commence one's ride till the other rider is already safely on the platform and disengaged from the zip line There aren't enough details to speculate on what actually happened. Agreed. I also did it. Great fun, and safe. need full details of what went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooPoopedToPop Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 9:20 PM, Gweiloman said: Have you tried this particular activity? If not, you don't know what you are talking about. I did it last year with my two daughters and I was impressed at how seriously they took the safety measures. I can't imagine how two people can collide on the zip lines as there aren't any parts where they would cross each other (everything goes in one direction only). Also, one can't commence one's ride till the other rider is already safely on the platform and disengaged from the zip line There aren't enough details to speculate on what actually happened. 2 hours ago, bark said: Agreed. I also did it. Great fun, and safe. need full details of what went wrong. But don't let those facts get in the way when we can get our rocks off in an orgy of Thai bashing. There's no telling what the Israelis might have done. As you say, need full details of what went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, TooPoopedToPop said: But don't let those facts get in the way when we can get our rocks off in an orgy of Thai bashing. There's no telling what the Israelis might have done. As you say, need full details of what went wrong. What are you talking about. Get your rocks off, with another OP. Not Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 8 hours ago, webfact said: Despite the accident, the zipline operations continue as usual. Paying customers or pay customers to use. No thanks. I would guess that as long as your keeping customers feet off the ground there is no violation of land laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 If I am not mistaken, Sor Kor 1 land has an agricultural zoning. Since Zip-lines are offering the aerial view of the agricultural zone, they are definitely agro-tourism. So what's the problem with the land use? Earlier I read that people were swinging into each other on the ride, has that theory been invalidated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Any update on the medical condition of Ms. Rov who was in intensive care? Often travelers aren't prepared for such situations with insurance, etc. Is she OK? Is the park helping with the bills? We always seem to get these news stories and very rarely get any meaningful FOLLOW UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats56 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 When I fist came here and was working in MAP Ta Putt my family came over and my children went to Fight of the Gibbons with a buch of fellow workers on their day off. I had to work that day. They had a great time and really enjoyed it. But after read some of the accidents resently I would have second thoughts to partake in that activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Accidents happens all over the world , no need to bash Thailand , I am more worried about the traffic. I would never jump in a parachute and I would never do this . I am not that kind of risk person , but if you are , you can do it in Thailand safely . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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