Dismissive Prayut tells hackers to knock it off

By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter -

   

Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha speaks Tuesday at the Government House in Bangkok.

 

BANGKOK — Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha on Tuesday dismissed online dissidents as uninformed and urged them to end their online rebellion.

 

Since the new Computer Crime Act was passed Friday, net freedom activists have brought down key government websites to express their anger in attacks which continued throughout Tuesday.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2016/12/20/dismissive-prayuth-tells-hackers-knock-off/

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-12-21

no use of Article 44 to end this?

And the hackers answers with knocking Prayuth's website of the net!

 

 

Like they are really going to listen to him.

Like red shirts to a bull?

 

Fortunately all the sites are well protected.

Edited December 20, 20169 yr by Thailand

 

Yeah guys... knock it off will ya??? done.... see how easy it was?

 

( yeah right )

"Those protesting the law have said they are angry lawmakers took no heed of public- and private-sector objections to the law’s erosion of freedoms and rights when it was passed unanimously by the rubber-stamp parliament."

 

Since that faithful day in January, when the junta took power, that rubber stamp has never been put down.  We can only hope it will wear out in a few years. 

 

The only place to shame the good general and his junta is on line, and that is what he fears.

Unelected Prime Minister , what makes you think the attacks are from inside , nobody will be listening to your diatribe, you formed the cyber security unit to stop hacking , are they on annual leave , General you haven't a clue,  Thailand if hit by a Cyber storm , yes a Cyber storm, will bring your country to a standstill , all you need is something like stuxnet aimed at key targets including industry and poof, where did Thailand go,  and you caused it all..........................................

Edited December 21, 20169 yr by chainarong

So everyone is uninformed,thats right because no one knows what

the next move from the Government will be,like the "One gateway",

regards worgeordie

40 minutes ago, chainarong said:

Unelected Prime Minister , what makes you think the attacks are from inside , nobody will be listening to your diatribe, you formed the cyber security unit to stop hacking , are they on annual leave , General you haven't a clue,  Thailand if hit by a Cyber storm , yes a Cyber storm, will bring your country to a standstill , all you need is something like stuxnet aimed at key targets including industry and poof, where did Thailand go,  and you caused it all..........................................

Nothing wrong about being an unelected Prime Minister in a country where democracy has never existed.

2 minutes ago, ianf said:

Nothing wrong about being an unelected Prime Minister in a country where democracy has never existed.

 

Good point when Thailand had more coups years than elected. The military made sure democracy will never exist.

Just sayin 

10 minutes ago, ianf said:

Nothing wrong about being an unelected Prime Minister in a country where democracy has never existed.

 

 

Stupid comment and insulting to millions of Thais who aspire to democratic values.There will sometimes be circumstances where an unelected PM is justifiable, for example as when Khun Anand Panyarachun took the reigns.A more recent example was the premiership of Khun Abhisit.What is hard to justify is the seizure of government by force of arms.In current circumstances the frustration of the military government's propaganda should be regarded as an act of patriotism.

13 minutes ago, ianf said:

Nothing wrong about being an unelected Prime Minister in a country where democracy has never existed.

Oh democracy existed. Flawed yes but it existed.

 

The trouble is the government which the people chose was not the one you wished for.

 

Therefore in your somewhat egocentric view,  democracy did not exist.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

Good point when Thailand had more coups years than elected. The military made sure democracy will never exist.

Eric: Nothing to do with the military. There was no democracy here under the other rulers. Why? Because democracy can only exist within the rule of law which is sadly lacking here in Thailand. Democracy is a term that was hijacked and used by Thaksin in order to undermine the Abhisit government. But in all his actions, speeches and statements Thaksin set himself forward as a would-be dictator, no better and no worse than the military administrations we have seen. We all know, Eric, that you believe the Red Shirts under their self-exiled leader is a democratic movement, but it is simply not. How can you have a democracy in a country where, firstly the families are organised in such a hierarchical way, when the school teacher cannot be questioned, when your manager at work is right in everything he says and so on all the way up the hierarchy. It's the culture here. You'll never get democracy here until there is a fundamental change in the culture. Look at how people laugh at the rule of law: Red Bull heir, rampant corruption at every level, the woman sentenced to death but released on bail, the complete refusal of the Thais to observe basic road rules. On and on it goes: all of these run counter to a democratic society.

2 minutes ago, JAG said:

Oh democracy existed. Flawed yes but it existed.

 

The trouble is the government which the people chose was not the one you wished for.

 

Therefore in your somewhat egocentric view,  democracy did not exist.

 

 

Goodness Jag if you think that I'm that stupid, prejudiced or short-sighted then what's the point of entering any discussion. Nonsense, man, NONSENSE

4 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

 

Stupid comment and insulting to millions of Thais who aspire to democratic values.There will sometimes be circumstances where an unelected PM is justifiable, for example as when Khun Anand Panyarachun took the reigns.A more recent example was the premiership of Khun Abhisit.What is hard to justify is the seizure of government by force of arms.In current circumstances the frustration of the military government's propaganda should be regarded as an act of patriotism.

Not so stupid. Read my response to Eric below. And not insulting to Thais because I know many who agree with this view: especially those who have spent time in Europe. You have to remove your cultural blinkers Jayboy. Democracy, such as it is, may trundle along in the West, but does that mean it's good for here? A bit more depth, rather than insults, may produce some interesting discussion.

"Uninformed".   Hmmm.   Is that like "deplorable"?  Just wondering.

 

4 minutes ago, ianf said:

Goodness Jag if you think that I'm that stupid, prejudiced or short-sighted then what's the point of entering any discussion. Nonsense, man, NONSENSE

 

Three elected governments brought down by "interventions" (two of them being military coups) in less than a decade. Elections blocked  to create the conditions for a military junta to take power. Removal of the franchise and suppression of freedom of speech and the expression of political views. All to prevent a government being elected. All to suppress an existing democracy. To deny that is at the very least short sighted. As for stupid and prejudiced, well we can decide that on the basis of your posts. Post #16 could be a start: "nothing to do with the military..."

5 minutes ago, JAG said:

 

Three elected governments brought down by "interventions" (two of them being military coups) in less than a decade. Elections blocked  to create the conditions for a military junta to take power. Removal of the franchise and suppression of freedom of speech and the expression of political views. All to prevent a government being elected. All to suppress an existing democracy. To deny that is at the very least short sighted. As for stupid and prejudiced, well we can decide that on the basis of your posts. Post #16 could be a start: "nothing to do with the military..."

Jag: Elections per se a democracy they do not make. Miss the point? Hun Sen had an election in Cambodia: Over 90% voted for him. Tell me, is Cambodia a democratic country? Freedom of speech and opinion under Thaksin's 'democracy'? Well his drug war managed to wipe out a number of his political opponents. Democracy under Thaksin - or under Abhisit for that matter ? No way. No rule of law in Thailand. No democracy.

Not so stupid. Read my response to Eric below. And not insulting to Thais because I know many who agree with this view: especially those who have spent time in Europe. You have to remove your cultural blinkers Jayboy. Democracy, such as it is, may trundle along in the West, but does that mean it's good for here? A bit more depth, rather than insults, may produce some interesting discussion.

Very poor response.The fact that you know some Thais who spurn democracy is neither here nor there.The reality is that much of the lumpen Sino Thai middle class have hitched their wagon to military rule but this doesn't affect the main issue.

What is irritating about your post apart from its ignorance and crudity is the contempt it shows for the Thais that have been struggling for a more representative system.Some of us recall the history and some of us have experienced it - including the events of the 1970's.

As for depth of discussion, a quick scan of your posting history indicates the level you operate at.


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2 minutes ago, ianf said:

Jag: Elections per se a democracy they do not make. Miss the point? Hun Sen had an election in Cambodia: Over 90% voted for him. Tell me, is Cambodia a democratic country? Freedom of speech and opinion under Thaksin's 'democracy'? Well his drug war managed to wipe out a number of his political opponents. Democracy under Thaksin - or under Abhisit for that matter ? No way. No rule of law in Thailand. No democracy.

 

Elections are the fundamental cornerstone of a democracy. A point which you miss I suggest. five times the Thai electorate have chosen Thaksin (or his proxies. Three times their choice has been overturned.

Thaksin disliked criticism yes, and made no secret of it, but he did not use secret military courts, arbitrary detention without judicial oversight, and rule by decree bypassing the judicial system. Protests were allowed, and happened. Not now.

 

Rule of law? Flawed but there are numerous examples of court judgements which did not go his way when he or his proxies were in power - his conviction and Yingluck's removal are two fairly strong examples. Not going to happen now under the Junta is it? The ultimate destroyer of the rule of law is to use armed force or the threat of armed force to overthrow a constitutionally elected government.

 

To suggest as you did in post #18 that Democracy is OK in the West but perhaps not for Thailand is an insult to the very large number of ordinary Thais who have consistently voted for their government only to see it overthrown. Those Thais, who you claim do not want democracy because they have spent time in the west, are I would suggest those whose grip on and access to power (hegemony?) is threatened by democracy. Perhaps that is why they have been able to spend time in the West?

 

Democracy and rule of law existed in Thailand. They were far from perfect examples but they existed, and were preferable than rule by military junta. They could only improve if allowed to continue. This junta exists to destroy it, and are doing their best to ensure it does not return.

 

You seem to support that process, because you dislike the government which resulted from democracy. I support a flawed democracy, because it is capable of being improved, and despite its flaws, better represents the wishes and aspirations of the Thai people, all of them, not just the ones who have a grip on power.

In the Bangkok Post today the PM was quoted as saying the amended law is needed to protect public morals as the term public morals is written in the law. Guess this means the govt will be determining what is moral or not.   Hope everyone's morals are inline with the current govt's morals.   Otherwise I guess it's time for some to undergo a morals adjustment.  Reeducation camps maybe?

38 minutes ago, ianf said:

Eric: Nothing to do with the military. There was no democracy here under the other rulers. Why? Because democracy can only exist within the rule of law which is sadly lacking here in Thailand. Democracy is a term that was hijacked and used by Thaksin in order to undermine the Abhisit government. But in all his actions, speeches and statements Thaksin set himself forward as a would-be dictator, no better and no worse than the military administrations we have seen. We all know, Eric, that you believe the Red Shirts under their self-exiled leader is a democratic movement, but it is simply not. How can you have a democracy in a country where, firstly the families are organised in such a hierarchical way, when the school teacher cannot be questioned, when your manager at work is right in everything he says and so on all the way up the hierarchy. It's the culture here. You'll never get democracy here until there is a fundamental change in the culture. Look at how people laugh at the rule of law: Red Bull heir, rampant corruption at every level, the woman sentenced to death but released on bail, the complete refusal of the Thais to observe basic road rules. On and on it goes: all of these run counter to a democratic society.

 

I find your comment incoherent and have difficult understanding your point of view.

 

What rule of law is missing. Please explain. I see rules of laws being used quite extensively to deal with government and even got 2 prime ministers dismissed from their incumbent posts.

 

Thaksin set himself as dictator?? That must be the strangest statement I heard when he only an elected official for 4 years and can be deposed by the people. Can you seriously think that the existing establishment and the military will allow that when a whims of that desire will meant LM and almost a death sentence. Come on, be serious Lanf.

 

And you really lost your self by bring up that part about hierarchical way. What has that got to do with democracy. It is old Thai patronage tradition which existed throughout history until the current times. Red bull and rampant corruption; blame that on the weakness of the judiciary and the effectiveness of the RTP. It also happen in developed countries. What that got to do with democracy.     

8 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

I find your comment incoherent and have difficult understanding your point of view.

 

What rule of law is missing. Please explain. I see rules of laws being used quite extensively to deal with government and even got 2 prime ministers dismissed from their incumbent posts.

 

Thaksin set himself as dictator?? That must be the strangest statement I heard when he only an elected official for 4 years and can be deposed by the people. Can you seriously think that the existing establishment and the military will allow that when a whims of that desire will meant LM and almost a death sentence. Come on, be serious Lanf.

 

And you really lost your self by bring up that part about hierarchical way. What has that got to do with democracy. It is old Thai patronage tradition which existed throughout history until the current times. Red bull and rampant corruption; blame that on the weakness of the judiciary and the effectiveness of the RTP. It also happen in developed countries. What that got to do with democracy.     

Both you & Jag are well-known supporters of Thaksin. Your responses and rudeness reflect this.

Won't work, am sorry to say...

 

Did not wave his finger efficiently enough while scolding them bad children.... 

The little general really is in lockstep with Obama. Barry Hussein told Putin to cut it out and the little fella tells hackers to knock it off. This is what happens in the land of mom jeans and power grabs. 

The "ion" State !!!

 

Prayut talks about rebellion when the nation's nitizens voice their opinion, and take action in their objection to the erosion of their freedom and rights !!!

 

What has the junta given the nation since their usurped control ??? Aggression; Division; Suppression; Repression; Recession to name but a few "ions" !!!

 

Oh, and we can throw in succession as an aside.

 

 

 

Dear Prayuth,

You started it mate.

 

Edited December 21, 20169 yr by Enoon

say it like a boss...