Big parties unhappy with new law

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, trogers said:

 

Good for you!

 

Regretted on holding onto anti-establishment views or regretted taking off those blinkers?

 

It is the type of question that you should ponder and ask yourself. Have you been wearing your blinkers too long? Military dominance is a blast from the past and sure you don't belong to the time of the warlords.  

[trogers]

22 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

It is the type of question that you should ponder and ask yourself. Have you been wearing your blinkers too long? Military dominance is a blast from the past and sure you don't belong to the time of the warlords.  

 

The too long ago has already been prophesied - the feet of clay and iron. Democracy is not as free as you think...

 

All roads would eventually lead to the Roman Emperor...

[smedly]

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

4 hours ago, smedly said:

eyes wide shut

 

you seem to go on and on being critical of everyone that posts an opinion or suggestion about how Thailand can move forward and yet you offer absolutely nothing

 

This country has major problems and has had for years - some blame the military and yet only for their intervention there would likely have been civil war over and over, the root cause is elected governments that simply cannot behave themselves, have you actually noticed that when the military step in they do not try to cling to power, they attempt to write another charter that might fix the issues and doesn't - why does that happen ? well it is simple, they just don't have the skills to get it right - in comes the next elected government and they spend the first 2 years in office trying to get rid of all the stuff that stops them from thieving, a constitution should be solid and written is such a way that it is almost impossible to change, a fine example is the USA - it takes years and years to even attempt to amend the US constitution

 

Lets get some perspective on things, Obama is caught thieving from the US people, he goes to court and is convicted - on appeal while on bail he does a runner to Columbia with multi billions of dollars - 2 years later his sister is elected PM because they offer all the kids a free Tablet computer - give everyone that buys a new car 5000 dollars - double the minimum wage and say they will  buy all farm produce at double the market price - number one goal - get elected at any cost, then spends the next 2 years trying to ram through an amnesty bill for himself............................. seriously, that is some fairytale stuff right there

 

every functioning democracy on the planet needs a structure for it to work, Thailand is a fine example of how everything breaks down when the rule book can simply be ignored or changed  - as a democracy it is a 20 times failure - it has never worked because there are too many people thieving - the people are now getting wise to it probably because of social media

 

Thailand has been retarded for a very long time simply because they lack the skills or even the will to pull their heads out of their (deleted), too many have been enriching themselves for a very long time, some on here go on about the people and why they keep electing them - well it is simple, up until now 500baht bought a vote - village heads leading their flock to the polling stations and you had the same cronies in office year after year filling their boots......................there is no doubt about the huge amounts of money involved ..................................... one thing is for sure - it has to stop - no elected government wants to stop it for very obvious reasons.........................a well written constitution will stop it, powerful agencies that enforce checks and balances will stop it - who is in a position to introduce such things ?

In summary, you still maintain that corrupt military rule is better than corrupt democracy.  And you still maintain the ridiculous fiction that the country was near a civil war.

 

2 hours ago, DavidVincent said:

I am not being critical, except when it comes to people saying completely false things regarding Thai History :

"... have you actually noticed that when the military step in they do not try to cling to power ..."

Are you REALLY in Thailand ? The military not try to cling to power?? Man I don't know how you can say such thing when EVERY TIME the army was facing a government which didn't follow their goal they stepped in to remove them, EVERY TIME!.

I know :Thaksin clique is bad. We can all agree on his corruption, and yet, you still praise an Army which is equally if not more corrupted. You still do not answer : do you think a corrupted army, suffering from nepotism, Who has more generals than US in proportion to their population, while not being a threat or under a threat from any current country, can write the new charter?

Why, if the army is here to clean the corruption, don't they start with their own guys? Why the notoriously corrupted Police can still enjoy corruption nearly freely, why is there no enforcement of the law for the wealthy killers? (Red Bull, Central,...)

" the people are now getting wise to it probably because of social media "

Then why the army want to censor Internet and social media, muzzle the citizen?

" too many have been enriching themselves for a very long time "

One more time, why the army generals, PM and his brother firsts, are still so wealthy? Do not come with the inheritance, as any action from the newspaper to find more has been shut down or worse?

" well it is simple, up until now 500baht bought a vote "

We are still waiting for real clues and facts about that happening only on one side, if really happened....the real reason people in the North and poor in general voted to Thaksin, is because he was the first politician to speak to them...It is not also their love for Thaksin but their hate for people like Abhisit who, I remember you was NEVER elected and put as PM by the Army...we know how it went....

" who is in a position to introduce such things ? "

Certainly not a general, or the army who has deep links with a traditional establishment and do not give a sh!t about the poor..he works for/with this old establishment who wants to keep Thailand in the state it was decades ago.

Anyway If you answer my message, keep answering ALL the points we are discussing, not only the same : 500thb/Thaksin stuff...tell me about the army and its corruption, this is something, or am I just dreaming?

 

 

what a complete pile of nonsense lol you just wrote

[DavidVincent]

4 minutes ago, smedly said:

 

what a complete pile of nonsense lol you just wrote

It makes much more sense than supporting a corrupted army and ask it to solve the corruption problem.. But as you're deflecting again to answer any question which would corner you and your praise of the "PM" I think it is useless to go further. You clearly show a lack of judgement even when the facts hit you badly in the face on daily basis, even on this website...sleep well

Edited December 23, 2016 by DavidVincent

[GarryP]

On 12/22/2016 at 9:37 AM, piersbeckett said:

That's right, the whole public sector, military, police, judiciary, executive, right down to the staff of the tessabaan, the land office and the water department. Jail first then execution upon summary conviction.

The problem is that the guardians of the law are far from neutral so you could not trust decisions to be based purely on fact.  Those corrupt politicians who are not toeing the line of the true holders of power are much more likely to be judged guilty than corrupt politicians who kowtow to the puppet masters.