David Walden Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I don't think I'll make my next trip to Thailand. If they sack all the corrupt policemen there may not be any left...oh no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana7 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Why not re-test everyone in all positions in the Police, using new exam questions, not just written tests but also verbal and physical. Have the tests administered by the Army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Somehow,some way,this will all come back to being the fault of 'the felang's' they have to find any one to blame,but themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 All the more reason not to trust the police Corrupt from the beginning What do you expect with recruits like this This is not the cream of the crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Thechook said: I wonder how Prayuth obtained his position in the military. If you had access to his bank balance, you would soon know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 6 hours ago, waldroj said: "...Some 418 individuals were indicated as cheats..." !!! How many sat the exam ??? 419 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 14 hours ago, oilinki said: This is great news if they are finally starting to purify the police force and starting from the top. But no consideration for the ones who took the bribes ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Thailand said: Positions are bought in many walks of life here particularly the police and the military and govt related jobs. Nothing new in this " disclosure". In Thailand, you get jobs and promotions through the thickness of the brown envelopes. In Scotland, maybe also in the rest of the UK, you get jobs and promotions using a funny handshake. So does that mean in Thailand, they have corruption, but not in Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cauldlad Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 They could not even lie straight in bed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batboy Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 This should be no surprise at all. This has been going on for years here and not just for the police exams. Just ask any Thai and they will tell you your family have to pay up front if they want you to get good jobs in the Police, Government and the army. This is not just endemic here in Thailand. It happens also in most countries but not to this volume of applicants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, wvavin said: Is there anymore things that are not involved in cheating in this country? People will cheat in any jobs and in any country if they get the chance, it's just that in Thailand, they don't have the brains to cover it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, fruitman said: My brother in law failed for the police-exams, he couldn't speak english well enough...which is true since he never spoke a word english to me, not in 15 years. But the police has woken up since new year, today they stopped me to check if i have a driverslicense.....my papardlive mai?? HAB PAPUUURDLIVE YOU?? He started yelling 5555. Goes both ways? Edited January 7, 2017 by laislica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Will the 418 indicated as being cheats be identified? --- NO The committee split the group of individuals who took and set the exams into three groups - those who cheated completely, those who cheated a little and those who answered honestly. ---- WRONG, THERE SHOULD BE ONLY TWO GROUPS. THOSE WHO CHEATED. AND THOSE WHO DID NOT. No details were given on the percentages of these in the sanook.com report but 418 individuals are believed to be facing punishment either internally or according to the criminal law. --- THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILDING MORE BUILDINGS CONTAINING INACTIVE POST OCCUPANTS. SURELY THE CURRENT ONES MUST BE FACING SEVERE OVERCROWDING. IF THOSE SENT THERE ARE ACTUALLY EVEN THERE. AND WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE HUGE SUMS OF MONEY THAT THESE FOOLS PAID FOR THOSE HIGH RANKING POSITIONS. GONE???? More details will follow over the coming week. ---- DON'T COUNT ON IT. NO WONDER THE RTP CANNOT PERFORM THEIR DUTIES. THEY NEVER LEARNED THEM PROPERLY. IF THEY EVEN HAVE ANY STANDARDS TO BE LEARNED FROM THE TESTING. How about having the Army monitor the exam process? They always do seem to get any job done that the police have not able to get done for generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSF Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I spent 25 years working in Thailand education system, was told many times at many schools/colleges that nobody fails. You can't fail a student because that would make the student lose face. So I guess the same mindset is over at the BIB school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 14 hours ago, colinneil said: 418 facing punishment What 500 baht and do not do it again you naughty boy. The worst aspect of this must be Bringing Shame on Thailand? I'm looking for recruits to help me launch a new company and wonder if you can help (No WP required, we have ways round that) How to cheat and NOT GET CAUGHT. he he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 15 hours ago, trogers said: The type of candidates eyeing for positions of integrity... Amazing Thailand! You may only find it in an English-Thai dictionary with a question mark to the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 ...and these bachelors of bribery line up to be photographed by media after they caught what they call a "fake cop". Cheat me up Somchai it already worked in high schhool, university, with my driving license, medical checks, and the entry exams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 14 hours ago, jonclark said: Two things: 1st good on the police for going public and making this announcement. Even better if these cheats are named and shamed...hopefully in one giant finger pointing photo op. 418 coppers all pointing at themselves. 2nd sadly this shouldnt suprise anyone. The RTP are not really the moral compass by which any self respecting individual should guide themselves with...although their actions are comedy gold so credit where it is due. And the Royal title should be stripped of this Organization.....for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandemara Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 No matter how hard you try, once you've lost the confidence and trust of the populace you'll never get it back. Thailand has been free-floating for years and the price the nation's reputation (face?) has paid is terrible. I feel for the majority of ordinary citizens who might never fully understand just how badly they've been screwed by an irresponsible, greedy minority with a little power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 12 hours ago, wakeupplease said: No our police do not cheat its just a media story again >PM anyhow Which test would that be? Corruption Master Degree or Bone idle laziness Degree Yer... that's a hard one. ill take an each way bet id also wager sanit did the same thing on his climb upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman58 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Oh well there goes my hope It was probly a test on road rules that is why they all failed Questions like Do you need to wear a helmet ? Which side of the road you drive on? What is the speed limit etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Not to be on the side of the BIB, but I can't imagine how someone could pass a test here without cheating. Whenever I see my kids homework it is full of nonsensical questions with multiple or no correct answers, but one must be selected. My kids have to memorize English incorrectly in order to pass English tests. And yesterday at immigration my wife and I were stumped at a form that made no sense in Thai or English. College must be complicated - knowing where to get the answers in time for exams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnlightenedAtheist Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I hope this is a start of a true and serious paradigm shift, but we need a lot of baby steps to get to the other side of that ravine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Let's wait and see if any action is finally taken this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 do you think all exams in the past have been cheat-free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 39 minutes ago, canuckamuck said: Not to be on the side of the BIB, but I can't imagine how someone could pass a test here without cheating. Whenever I see my kids homework it is full of nonsensical questions with multiple or no correct answers, but one must be selected. My kids have to memorize English incorrectly in order to pass English tests. And yesterday at immigration my wife and I were stumped at a form that made no sense in Thai or English. College must be complicated - knowing where to get the answers in time for exams Unfortunately, IMHO, no progress can be made until Thailand implements a change in it's culture. They need to stop trying to be number one, just aim to be the best they can. The first step could be the introduction of a welfare state..... They need to help the poor, give free education to everyone. The government needs to spend money on TV advertising for health and safety items. Small but steady steps, properly thought through. Until this starts to work then the overriding factors will be the urgency to get money by any means. Me first and to hell with anyone else. The excuse that "Everyone else is doing it" has to go. Actions like these will turn Thailand into a developed, nanny state like the western world though and who can say if that's a good or bad thing. At least, with things being the way they are, us expats have a choice of which environment we would like to live in and for how long? Oh yes, and something to whinge about or feel superior to LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnlightenedAtheist Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, laislica said: Unfortunately, IMHO, no progress can be made until Thailand implements a change in it's culture. They need to stop trying to be number one, just aim to be the best they can. The first step could be the introduction of a welfare state..... They need to help the poor, give free education to everyone. The government needs to spend money on TV advertising for health and safety items. Small but steady steps, properly thought through. Until this starts to work then the overriding factors will be the urgency to get money by any means. Me first and to hell with anyone else. The excuse that "Everyone else is doing it" has to go. Actions like these will turn Thailand into a developed, nanny state like the western world though and who can say if that's a good or bad thing. At least, with things being the way they are, us expats have a choice of which environment we would like to live in and for how long? Oh yes, and something to whinge about or feel superior to LOL Are the poor poor because they are lazy or they cannot do any better or because the barriers to success are much higher than for the ones who start with loans in the millions when they are 20? Of course, if one has to pay for education, then we know who is going to be smarter. Now criticisms are easy to make. What do you propose? A dog-eat-dog world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceruhe Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Want to see some of the questions, for all intents and purposes I don't know what they do besides wrecking flowing traffic into a nightmare^10 for no apparant reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Thechook said: I wonder how Prayuth obtained his position in the military. He was first three times in the NAAFI queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Just like The Universities!! TIT and it won't change,in my lifetime.....Time for golf!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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