stevenl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Ulysses G. said: Sounds like a personal opinion and one that lots of people disagree with. Meryl Streep offended half the voters in the country for their vote. It is a fact he mocked the reporters disability and denied, and is still denying, doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) On 1/12/2017 at 11:36 PM, Andaman Al said: Yes, I missed them all. I watched all his speeches and all his rally's. 60% of his time was spent lying about and slagging off any opponent, 30% of his time was spent talking about himself and how great and rich he is, 9.9% of his time was regurgitating word salad and any time left he either avoided any questions on policies, knew nothing at all about the subject, pivoted back to Clinton or simply lied (such as the wall, which became a fence and yesterday was a wall again). His policy on Obamacare is 'repeal and replace', he claims it can be done in "one hour" and his only answer to 'how will you do that, what does the new healthcare look like' is "you will be so proud, so so proud"! Take your blinkers off. It is no shame to admit he conned you and he is a crooked buffoon. I genuinely feel sorry for people who cannot see what is wrong with him. Obviously you were watching a different person to the one I saw that was nothing like what you say. Be careful accusing people of lying unless you can back up your percentages. They look remarkably porkie to me. I watched a 1998 film she was in and no doubt she was capable of good acting. However, she seems to have come to believe her own press as to being of any importance when it comes to political commentary. Just because she could act does not give her a right to use an inappropriate venue to slag off her president elect. Edited January 16, 2017 by thaibeachlovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Obviously you were watching a different person to the one I saw that was nothing like what you say. Be careful accusing people of lying unless you can back up your percentages. They look remarkably porkie to me. I watched a 1998 film she was in and no doubt she was capable of good acting. However, she seems to have come to believe her own press as to being of any importance when it comes to political commentary. Just because she could act does not give her a right to use an inappropriate venue to slag off her president elect. Quote Quote Be careful accusing people of lying unless you can back up your percentages. Yes they can be backed up and you know it. Quote Just because she could act does not give her a right to use an inappropriate venue to slag off her president elect. I do not believe you have even watched what she says. Tell me what is political , or "slagging off about this. She was commenting on Trump (and never mentioned his name) when he mocked a disabled reporter (which Trump did, and do not try and deny it on here as denying it is not taken lightly) Quote I still can’t get it out of my head because it wasn’t in a movie; it was real life. And this instinct to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, filters down into everybody’s life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing. Disrespect invites disrespect; violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose. Now please tell us, any of you who are slagging of Streep just exactly WHAT is wrong with what she said, and explain why she has no right to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, Andaman Al said: She was commenting on Trump (and never mentioned his name) when he mocked a disabled reporter (which Trump did) As the Trump campaign has pointed out, the actions and language he used he had previously used against two non-disabled reporters. So, yes, he mocked a disabled reporter but not for being disabled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said: As the Trump campaign has pointed out, the actions and language he used he had previously used against two non-disabled reporters. So, yes, he mocked a disabled reporter but not for being disabled No, that is BS spin, he mocked a disabled journalist. WATCH the video. How can you even think of denying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said: As the Trump campaign has pointed out, the actions and language he used he had previously used against two non-disabled reporters. So, yes, he mocked a disabled reporter but not for being disabled I'm quoting only Trump's words in response to your opinion " So, yes, he mocked a disabled reporter but not for being disabled" 1/ Trump lashed out at columnists Jonah Goldberg and Charles Krauthammer. Krauthammer had called the candidate a "rodeo clown." "I get called by a guy that can't buy a pair of pants, I get called names?" Trump said at the time. (Krauthammer is paralyzed from the waist down.) 2/ "Now, the poor guy -- you've got to see this guy, 'Ah, I don't know what I said! I don't remember!" Trump said as he jerked his arms in front of his body. The gesture was all the more personal because Kovaleski covered Trump while reporting for the New York Daily News between 1987 and 1993, a tumultuous period for Trump http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-trump-mocks-disabled-reporter-20151125-story.html So easy Edited January 16, 2017 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, SaintLouisBlues said: Readily. I didn't say he didn't mock the guy, I said he didn't mock him for being disabled So why crook his right hand up like the journalists and start speaking like 'quazimodo'? still if he is your kind of person carry on. Decent people know what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaintLouisBlues Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Andaman Al said: still if he is your kind of person carry on. My view is that we have four years of unending entertainment ahead of us. Half of it will come from the Groper-in-Chief. The other half will come from people like you, foaming at the mouth Edited January 16, 2017 by SaintLouisBlues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 1/14/2017 at 3:28 PM, Si Thea01 said: Who said anything about Streep leaving, I certainly didn't. There were about 16 in all and she was not one of them. Have they left yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Ulysses G. said: Sounds like a personal opinion and one that lots of people disagree with. Meryl Streep offended half the voters in the country for their vote. Meryl Streep offended half the voters in the country for their vote. Sounds like a personal opinion and one that lots of people disagree with. Considering you often go on about other playing mind readers etc. - how would you know that? Do all of Trump supporters object to what she actually said? Doubt all are impressed by Trump's ways or are zealots taking every imagined slight to his image as a personal offense to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, uptheos said: Have they left yet? Of course not. You didn't really expect them to did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Andaman Al said: Tell me what is political , or "slagging off about this. She was commenting on Trump (and never mentioned his name) when he mocked a disabled reporter (which Trump did, and do not try and deny it on here as denying it is not taken lightly) I am not one, as you quite explicitly put it, "slagging off" at Ms Streep but she didn't really have to mention his name to get her message across. One would have to be a dill not to know to whom she was referring. My two bob's worth is that I don't believe he did so, (MO) so what do you mean by the statement that if someone denies it on here than that the denial will not be taken lightly? I hope one is not resorting to threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 10 hours ago, Ulysses G. said: Sounds like a personal opinion and one that lots of people disagree with. Meryl Streep offended half the voters in the country for their vote. This is so much distraction from what is imprortant. Donald Trump is going to MAGA and the Hollywood know-it-all's cannot abide by anything that smacks of common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: This is so much distraction from what is imprortant. Donald Trump is going to MAGA and the Hollywood know-it-all's cannot abide by anything that smacks of common sense. Exactly, to my surprise you got it. That is exactly the issue with Trump, too much distraction from what is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 minute ago, stevenl said: Exactly, to my surprise you got it. That is exactly the issue with Trump, too much distraction from what is important. Guess you missed the point re MAGA thru our new President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: This is so much distraction from what is imprortant. Donald Trump is going to MAGA and the Hollywood know-it-all's cannot abide by anything that smacks of common sense. How does imitating people with disabilities come into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Si Thea01 said: I am not one, as you quite explicitly put it, "slagging off" at Ms Streep but she didn't really have to mention his name to get her message across. One would have to be a dill not to know to whom she was referring. My two bob's worth is that I don't believe he did so, (MO) so what do you mean by the statement that if someone denies it on here than that the denial will not be taken lightly? I hope one is not resorting to threats. The term 'slag off' being explicitly used by Thaibeachlover whom my post was in response to. 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Just because she could act does not give her a right to use an inappropriate venue to slag off her president elect. Quote My two bob's worth is that I don't believe he did so, (MO) So look at the picture, look at the video and tell me he did not imitate the disability. you said Quote so what do you mean by the statement that if someone denies it on here than that the denial will not be taken lightly? I hope one is not resorting to threats. I am saying nothing. A MOD on here has already stated that anyone found posting links to sites or videos that try and claim Trump was not mocking a reporter will face suspension. If you want to take that as a threat then fill your boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 4:28 PM, Si Thea01 said: Of course not. You didn't really expect them to did you? So they're not people who you can trust to keep their word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I really don't care who trump mocked, insulted, got into wars with. All that matters he is now POTUS for 4 years, get used to it because its going to be a good 4 years, maybe 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, uptheos said: I really don't care who trump mocked, insulted, got into wars with. All that matters he is now POTUS for 4 years, get used to it because its going to be a good 4 years, maybe 8. Yes, respect for others is not important anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Off-topic posts and replies removed by more than one moderator. Stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawan Dok Krating Daeng Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, teatree said: War is Peace Slavery is Freedom Ignorance is Strength down the memory hole we go...... Trump is the prototype-fascist anticipated by Orwell. His nihilism will remove many of the checks and balances that hold back the attempted excesses of others in the political class. George Orwell was "as socialist by allegiance and a liberal by temperament". https://www.jstor.org/stable/25112677?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents You right wingers cannot have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, uptheos said: You really thinks Hillary gives a <deleted> about others? You really think Trump cares about others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tawan Dok Krating Daeng said: Yes. Boringly predictable victim mentality. Claiming oppression because of opposing 'views'. You make this issue about Orwellian doublespeak and agitprop to divert away from the issue of donald's disgusting bullying of a disabled person; bullying that I and many others witness directly. This so called 'opposing view' is an insult to our intelligence and has rightly been called out by everyone from Hollywood actors, to civil rights organizations, to TVF moderators. Being contrarian is fine but when it is done at the expense of a minority disabled person, it is puerile. I refer to the last words of your post : it is puerile... it is what young children do when they test and discover the concept of cruelty and learn to how gain popularity by making other people laugh. Meryl Streep nailed it perfectly, and she is the kind of woman who can say it out loud - with impact. I - besides- have no doubt about Trump's admiration for Meryl Streep as an actress. Edited January 18, 2017 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 More off-topic posts removed along with replies. Continued trolling will earn suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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