vogie Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 20 minutes ago, ujayujay said: Sad,but a Friends Dad is 96Years now and smoke every single Day one or two Cigars sience he was 22. Hes healthy and mobile. He might be healthy, but what about the people who has had the displeasure of breathing his exhaust smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedemon Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, georgemandm said: Why not I come and go to thailand so because I not live full time dose that mean I can't have a say . why do you read what I say and why reply to my comments . It is a free forum and a free world you are not my maker or my boss . So you come to Thailand as well as hangout in a Thai forum? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, thedemon said: So you come to Thailand as well as hangout in a Thai forum? Why? Some people just can't cut it in Thailand and then have to tell everyone how happy they are to be back but meanwhile keep posting on the Thaiforum because they miss Thailand so much. Not saying that is the case but seen it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, thedemon said: So you come to Thailand as well as hangout in a Thai forum? Why? Why ? What ? Edited January 10, 2017 by georgemandm Add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, thedemon said: So you come to Thailand as well as hangout in a Thai forum? Why? Why ? What it is about smoking not about me get back to what it is about Edited January 10, 2017 by georgemandm Add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, georgemandm said: Sounds like you have Key board warrior disease to me at 11 post a day over the last 6 years. So that must somehow make your self diagnosis even more accurate. <yawn> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, robblok said: Some people just can't cut it in Thailand and then have to tell everyone how happy they are to be back but meanwhile keep posting on the Thaiforum because they miss Thailand so much. Not saying that is the case but seen it before. It is like a old news paper in my country called tell the truth use to like reading it , now I read this forum and makes me laugh about the bs in thailand and like it , it is fun to read . me , I not get serious at all but lots on here get up set about things . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opalred Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 i look at it this way you smoke and blow smoke residue over me i drink beer i piss waste over you fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chicog said: So that must somehow make your self diagnosis even more accurate. <yawn> Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saastrajaa Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, ujayujay said: Sad,but a Friends Dad is 96Years now and smoke every single Day one or two Cigars sience he was 22. Hes healthy and mobile. Good for him. Doesn't make it acceptable for him to subject us to his second-hand smoke any more than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 As is always the case here, it is all about enforcement. Or lack thereof. While I lived on Samui, there was zero enforcement. I would walk into a restaurant, and ask where is the no smoking section. And they would reply "no problem sir, you can smoke anywhere". There were only two restaurants that enforced the law, and I was a big sponsor of both of them. It is a heinous thing, for a non smoking diner, to have to endure the toxic second hand smoke, from someone who does not have the decency to take a break, for an hour, from this filthy, disgusting habit, that according to some of us, betrays an incredible lack of personal discipline, hygiene, and self respect. Why would a self respect soul want to pollute their body in this manner? I usually look for an indoor table, as far away from other diners, as possible, and always check the tables of other patrons I plan to sit next to, to see if there are any cancer stick packs on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 35 minutes ago, alocacoc said: I think there is too much hysteria about smokers. In the 60's everyone smoked everywhere. Then propaganda starts against smoking. However, where is an ashtray, I smoke. Smoking doesn't kill instantly. And the passive smokers should be grateful, since they smoke for free while we pay their taxes. I assume that was meant in jest? Hard to tell. It is probably pretty hard for a smoker, to fathom how incredibly obnoxious it is, for a non smoker to be within their vicinity, while they are smoking. I try to sit or stand as far away as possible from the toxic emissions. And always look for a place upwind of them. Some of my friends who have quit smoking, later tell me they had no idea how horrendous second hand smoke was. In the 60's a large percent of the population was ignorant about smoking. The tobacco industry suckered the population, including the medical industry, into this scam of believing it was safe. Now we know better. Any fool who thinks tobacco does not harm his body is overlooking alot of easily available information. Whether or not it kills you, depends on the individual. Personally, I lost my mother, father, and grandfather to cancer, caused by tobacco. I have an ax to grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: As is always the case here, it is all about enforcement. Or lack thereof. While I lived on Samui, there was zero enforcement. I would walk into a restaurant, and ask where is the no smoking section. And they would reply "no problem sir, you can smoke anywhere". There were only two restaurants that enforced the law, and I was a big sponsor of both of them. It is a heinous thing, for a non smoking diner, to have to endure the toxic second hand smoke, from someone who does not have the decency to take a break, for an hour, from this filthy, disgusting habit, that according to some of us, betrays an incredible lack of personal discipline, hygiene, and self respect. Why would a self respect soul want to pollute their body in this manner? I usually look for an indoor table, as far away from other diners, as possible, and always check the tables of other patrons I plan to sit next to, to see if there are any cancer stick packs on the table. Hahaha , I did laugh well put go on you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 2 hours ago, smotherb said: Do you really think tobacco smoke displeasure is faked? Unfortunately I do believe here some people do a fake cough to voice there displeasure but I just ignore it. I never smoke and drink simultaneously unless I'm outside away from all. I smoke on the side of the road where cars pump out fumes. I take away the social aspect and get my hit and return to restaurant. Wash my hands and a mint too. I have been in a car park 30 metres from nearest person and person faked that cough cough pointing at me speaking to her daughter maybe. I put it down to having nothing better to say or do but yes I have witnessed it. I try to be as considerate as possibble but like anything you cannot please everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: I assume that was meant in jest? Hard to tell. It is probably pretty hard for a smoker, to fathom how incredibly obnoxious it is, for a non smoker to be within their vicinity, while they are smoking. I try to sit or stand as far away as possible from the toxic emissions. And always look for a place upwind of them. Some of my friends who have quit smoking, later tell me they had no idea how horrendous second hand smoke was. In the 60's a large percent of the population was ignorant about smoking. The tobacco industry suckered the population, including the medical industry, into this scam of believing it was safe. Now we know better. Any fool who thinks tobacco does not harm his body is overlooking alot of easily available information. Whether or not it kills you, depends on the individual. Personally, I lost my mother, father, and grandfather to cancer, caused by tobacco. I have an ax to grind. I agree with you 1 million % can't stand it at all . home now will be back in thailand soon and the one thing I can't stand is the smokers and the s??? Driving. Yes in the 1960 we were told it was ok to smoke, but now there is no excuse for some one to smoke those dirty filthy things . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, georgemandm said: Yes You obviously don't know the difference between "frequent poster" and "keyboard warrior". I'm guessing you're another whinging Thailand coffin dodger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Fortunately there are plenty of indoor restaurants that simply ban all smoking inside. I don't see why the antismoking mafia can't just use those and stop their moaning, but I guess that moaning is part of the daily life of the retired expat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think there must be an exception in the law for Japanese and Koreans in Go-Gos. Read it again! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, opalred said: i look at it this way you smoke and blow smoke residue over me i drink beer i piss waste over you fair Very good, another one, draw the smokers attention, then pull a big snotter out your nose and show him it while he is eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, elgenon said: I think there must be an exception in the law for Japanese and Koreans in Go-Gos. Read it again! : ) I think there is an exception where there is money to be made. Try Ho Chi Minh. It's hard to find anywhere where there is someone not smoking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Chicog said: You obviously don't know the difference between "frequent poster" and "keyboard warrior". I'm guessing you're another whinging Thailand coffin dodger. Haha boy some of you blokes make me laugh. What the f??? Is a coffin dodger have no idea . Mr key board warrior . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, ujayujay said: Sad,but a Friends Dad is 96Years now and smoke every single Day one or two Cigars sience he was 22. Hes healthy and mobile. Well I can only add I have been a smoker all my life and I gave up a year ago not because of health reasons but financial my grand father died at the ripe old age of 111 years he smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish if you are an aussie you will know Pauline Hanson and what she used to say "Explain please " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Chicog said: Fortunately there are plenty of indoor restaurants that simply ban all smoking inside. I don't see why the antismoking mafia can't just use those and stop their moaning, but I guess that moaning is part of the daily life of the retired expat. I am one of your so called anti smoking mafia and I think smoking should be banned everywhere. have you walk past one of those so called smoking Areas out side it is a f????? Joke . Yes moaning right , but if people did not smoke around food and bars and everywhere we would not moan would we . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 If the "anti smoking mafia" guys don't want eat in restaurants where others smoking, why they go? Go to McDonald's or KFC, Burger King. Is smoking free there. Or, cooking in your condo/house. Since we know that the law enforcement is lax in Thailand, may be the "anti smoking mafia" should look for another destination. Singapore should be safe. Or Luxembourg. But please stop whining. mimimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 30 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: Unfortunately I do believe here some people do a fake cough to voice there displeasure but I just ignore it. I never smoke and drink simultaneously unless I'm outside away from all. I smoke on the side of the road where cars pump out fumes. I take away the social aspect and get my hit and return to restaurant. Wash my hands and a mint too. I have been in a car park 30 metres from nearest person and person faked that cough cough pointing at me speaking to her daughter maybe. I put it down to having nothing better to say or do but yes I have witnessed it. I try to be as considerate as possibble but like anything you cannot please everyone. You sound like you are not only very respectful, but very considerate. Thanks for that. There is nothing wrong with a smoker enjoying a cigarette outside. It does appear that some societies are taking themselves a bit seriously by not allowing smoking in outdoor spaces. Not sure I agree with that. What we are really discussing here is smoking within a restaurant space, where people are trying to eat. That is a bit much, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, alocacoc said: If the "anti smoking mafia" guys don't want eat in restaurants where others smoking, why they go? Go to McDonald's or KFC, Burger King. Is smoking free there. Or, cooking in your condo/house. Since we know that the law enforcement is lax in Thailand, may be the "anti smoking mafia" should look for another destination. Singapore should be safe. Or Luxembourg. But please stop whining. mimimi Anti smoking mafia? I think you do not understand the definition of a mafia. You just do not get how uncomfortable it is to breathe in smoke, in a restaurant, when we are trying to eat. So, in order to please you, we should all avoid any restaurant that allows smokers, which is the majority of restaurants in this country? Who are you? Where does an idea like this come from? Whining? About breathing in toxic smoke while dining? Get a life, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Who are you? Where does an idea like this come from? Whining? About breathing in toxic smoke while dining? Get a life, please. Nah, the situation is well known. So, if you suffer from smoke, while you visit such a restaurant? The only way to avoid it is to go to another place. I don't see any other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 There are some restaurants where you can just smoke, i won't name them here but i like to go there. I also don't know how it works but i think smokers also deserve a place with chairs at least. Just some corner somewhere outside with an ashtray/chairs will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 35 minutes ago, alocacoc said: If the "anti smoking mafia" guys don't want eat in restaurants where others smoking, why they go? Go to McDonald's or KFC, Burger King. Is smoking free there. Or, cooking in your condo/house. Since we know that the law enforcement is lax in Thailand, may be the "anti smoking mafia" should look for another destination. Singapore should be safe. Or Luxembourg. But please stop whining. mimimi Did smoking make you an intellect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 When i go out for a meal and i see people smoking inside i will not go in,plenty of other choices. If i have ordered already and start eating and some one lights up i will ask them to stop smoking. I am not looking for a fight but it is my good right to have a smokeless meal in an area where smoking is not allowed(by law) The last time i asked someone to stop smoking his response was ,but they gave me an ashtray! Other people also told him he should not be smoking,he got up and left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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