trogers Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 They did pass their annual police exams by themselves, I hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 ‘Teacher not scapegoat’ top police officer claims By Siwa Loho The Nation Nakhon Phanom Former teacher jomsap drove pickup truck that killed cyclist in 2015, new probe alleges NAKHON PHANOM: -- THE high-profile case of former teacher Jomsap Saenmuangkhot, who was released last year by royal pardon after she was sentenced and jailed for a hit-and-run killing in 2015, has taken a new twist after a senior police officer insisted yesterday that the teacher really committed the crime. Police Inspector-General Pol General Panya Mamen said in a press conference in Nakhon Phanom province that a reinvestigation into the case reaffirmed that Jomsap drove the pickup truck that hit and killed a man in the province in 2015. Panya alleged that a group of people were assigned to systematically set up evidence in order to persuade others that the teacher was the scapegoat. Panya said police were now investigating the man who allegedly confessed to driving the car that killed the cyclist. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30304263 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-01-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthesoi Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 oh, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 9 hours ago, jaltsc said: "The Royal Thai Police Office has thrown its full weight behind the Renoo Nakhon police and threatened to sue the convicted schoolteacher, Mrs Jomsap Saenmuangkote, for allegedly defaming the police office, if police fresh investigation into the hit-and-run incident reconfirms her wrongdoing." Sounds more like a prediction than a threat...and a warning to all. A Nations police force should not be suing anyone, if they got it wrong then they got it wrong - if they got it right then they got it right, it seems in this case they got it wrong, the problem is that they also knew they got it wrong and did nothing choosing to protect their (reputation) rather than admitting their error, what is more disturbing even than that is that this woman was in fact innocent and yet they locked her up anyway and all the so called evidence including forensics pointed to this woman - I'd love to see a presentation of that - oh sorry we lost it - it was used up - we don't have that anymore but honestly we used to have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Kasset Tak said: If you read the full story on coconut then you see that the police will sue her if they find that she was guilty to the hit and run... which the court already ruled that she is not! The RTP say that people are slandering them and will sue them and then they come with comments like that... make them all resit the police exam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 The slander and libel laws, were put in place by criminals to protect criminals. Justice is a distant bell, rarely heard in Thailand!Surelt you mean NEVER heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 "...P I-G Pol General Panya Mamen said...that a reinvestigation into the case reaffirmed that Jomsap drove the pickup truck that hit and killed a man..." Mamen had better hope RTP "prove" his allegation. Otherwise, he's in for a serious case of "grovel" rash !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 11 hours ago, JAG said: "Also, he said forensic examination of the victim showed that he was struck on the left side of his body by a car." Jomsap Saenmuangkot owned a car. Open and shut case then.... Someone else admitted to the hit and run. He turned himself in. This case is so open and shut it's embarrassing to see the police act this way. A face saving thing, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Scum of the Earth. I may not live to see it, but the mass executions of the BIB will be interesting to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 13 hours ago, trogers said: And if the office is wrong? What full weight should be pressed onto them? Clowns in top gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lung Mike Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 This bully attitude should do wonders for the RTP's public relations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 How could anything on earth tarnish the reputation of the Millionaires in Brown, ... and why would they give a hoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Quote Meanwhile a witness testimony session for Jomsap’s case at Nakhon Phanom Provincial Court, scheduled for yesterday, was postponed to February 8-10 after Jomsap’s witnesses, including the alleged “real culprit”, a Mukdahan man, and a female witness failed to show up, an informed source at the court said. That's a troubling development. What kind of people make witnesses "disappear" and fail to show up for scheduled court dates? Usually, it's people with something to lose based on the outcome of their testimony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Why is it that it is difficult for me to believe whatever the Thai police say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Lets hope that in case that the teacher really hasn't done anything wrong that "Pol Gen Chakthip Chaichida" will voluntary resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remobb Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Why can't they all just move on? It was you, no it wasn't it was you, on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Good Cops,sticking together.??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 ....that expression on her face is not convincing.... ...gotta ask again....'If it was not her, then how did they get a positive, accurate ID of her car and plate number?'.... ...according to witnesses***... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 From the Nation article: Quote Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday said that if the ongoing probe confirmed that the former teacher was innocent, she would be provided with remedial measures. He also urged people not to assume that the whole agency was problematic because such an issue could happen everywhere in the world. “You have to see it case-by-case and investigate who are the wrongdoers. If she is deemed innocent, she should be able to get back to her teaching career,” the premier said. Permanent Secretary for Education Chaiyapruek Serirak said that if Jomsap wished to be reinstated as a teacher, she must file a request to the director of a respective educational service area office so he could table it at the provincial education committee meeting. As a public schoolteacher’s reinstatement required a teaching licence, the authority would also check the status of her teacher licence, he explained. Education Council deputy chief Somsak Dolprasit said Jomsap’s teacher licence had expired in 2014 during her court trial and she didn’t file for licence renewal within the deadline. He said she would have to re-apply for a teaching licence at the Education Council’s Secretary Office. Office of Basic Education Commission chief Karun Sakulpradit said he assigned deputy Boonrak Yodphetch to visit the north-eastern province and check if Jomsap was entitled to be reinstated and any decide on other compensations. So much bandwidth given to how and when she can regain her teachers license if found to be innocent but absolutely NO mention if any member of the RTP or Judiciary found to be delinquent in their duties will needs to worry about their current professional licensing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 15 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Representing the association, Pol Col Mana Pohchuey, superintendent of Thung Songhong police, told a press conference on Monday that the Renoo Nakhon police which investigated the hit-and-run case in 2005 did their job properly, quickly and justly in accordance with the book and had eyewitnesses to back up their charges against Mrs Jomsap. And we can of course rely entirely on the outcome of that investigation. The threat to sue - the usual RTP fall-back - suggests they are far from confident in their protestations, and are hedging their bets (if the RTP gambled, which, of course, it doesn't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubby Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 as devils advocate, let's say something good about the RTP, as the rest is same same 'preaching to the choir' .... or how about something educational : http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/the-confessions/false-confessions-and-interrogations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Threats from people with power.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I wonder when the police will threaten to arrest reckless drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJohnson Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Yet again the defamation laws being used to gag criticism - in this case it is the RTP. It can be used by anyone with the might to stifle debate and deflect criticism. An absolute disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 This is just another reason people do not trust the police The police should not have the right to sue people regardless They are supposed to be here to service and protect not SUE and PROTECT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: That's a troubling development. What kind of people make witnesses "disappear" and fail to show up for scheduled court dates? Usually, it's people with something to lose based on the outcome of their testimony. Could be that the guy who confessed suddenly realized the statute of limitations hadn't expired, and maybe confessing wasn't such a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 16 hours ago, Kasset Tak said: If you read the full story on coconut then you see that the police will sue her if they find that she was guilty to the hit and run... which the court already ruled that she is not! The RTP say that people are slandering them and will sue them and then they come with comments like that... So if she is found completely innocent, wrongfully convicted and imprisoned and compensated, what action will the BiB take against the officer(s) responsible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the guest Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Don't worry, the police are not the 'real' police in Thailand, given the exam cheating exploits that were recently uncovered. Perhaps the junta will explain to all the law abiding people, how are they going to clean this mess up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, impulse said: Could be that the guy who confessed suddenly realized the statute of limitations hadn't expired, and maybe confessing wasn't such a good idea? I thought of that notion also, but then consider, that according to the latest report, another witness, a woman, also failed to show. And the woman wasn't facing any criminal liability AFAIK, unlike the guy. Which kind of leads to speculation heading in a different direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freed1948 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: So if she is found completely innocent, wrongfully convicted and imprisoned and compensated, what action will the BiB take against the officer(s) responsible? With you on that one. As others have said the reputation of the BIB is nothing for them to be proud. The PM should use Section 44 to sack them all and start again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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