teatree Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 minute ago, daveAustin said: Exactly same in UK. On the main bridge through town, every single vehicle will pull up over the pavement and the central reservation to let them pass. It is a combination of education, manners, empathy, respect, nous and not wanting get a huge fine and/or look a complete prat for not doing so. If an ambulance scraped a car, the ambulance would just carry on and get the person to hospital with any insurance issues sorted out later - common sense. If a car refused to move because of a scrape or whatever, aside from being manhandled and moved by a member of public or the ambulance driver, the cops would be on them in a heartbeat. If a person died because of this act, they would likely end up in court on a manslaughter charge and be taken apart in the media. Thailand needs a public information campaign on all sorts of behavior, teaching them that they must move out of the way of ambulances should certainly be at the top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 That video of Germans reacting to an ambulance siren should be played on TV every day, no words are necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpuy Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Arm the ambulance drivers with guns , so they can shoot in the air . That's the only way to make these egoistic , selfish people respect am emergency ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 It should be a simple remember Pass a law fining people who do not move and inforce it 1000 should be enough Now have some police follow ambulance for a period of time pulling over people that do not move Also run an ad campaign educating people that it may be your grandmother in the ambulance that is dying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Cockwomble said: Somchaism at it's finest. Yes. Put a huge percentage, (perhaps even the majority) of Thais behind a steering wheel and the "ME FIRST AT ALL AND ANY COST" attitude comes to the fore. Those so afflicted, have to pass everything on the road regardless of visibility or traffic coming the other way. Minivans & pickup trucks seem to be the worst. The thought of making way for another vehicle, any vehicle, is an affront to their manhood (or Thaihood), I am not sure which. At best it is selfish immaturity. At worst it is potential suicide and potential manslaughter. When I am driving I always try to keep a "safe" distance between myself and the vehicle in front. This is almost universally seen by following drivers as space to pass and squeeze into, forcing me to bite my lip and drop back to create a safe zone again. The frequently means that a minute or two later it happens again. If I am heading to a supermarket or major parking area I frequently recognize vehicles who have passed me dangerously a while earlier only just disgorging their driver and passengers. To tell them that they just traded on minute on the road for potential death of how many people would be pointless. I am sure the reply would be a smirk and "So what? I still got here before you!!" I always watch out for the guys with wide tires and big exhaust tail pipes. I am sure it is linked to a complex about the size of their own tailpipes! Their sexual ego makes them a potential deadly risk on the road. Same as back home really, but here, because of lack of driver education and MEANINGFUL enforcement, it is a problem of plague proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I can think of something worse than not pulling over for an ambulance...leaving the scene of an accident, especially when someone has been hurt. If all you're going to do is fine someone 400 baht for not pulling over for an ambulance or a slap on the hand for leaving the scene of accident then nothing is ever going to change. It is what it is...THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACE IN THE WORLD TO DRIVE and it ain't going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 24 minutes ago, 01322521959 said: So they just use sirens when no needed. Sounds like some retraining is in order. Sent from my i-mobile_i-STYLE_219 using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Yes and i see it all the time, they use those lights for fun it seems..also police and other emergency cars from which i have no idea who they are. Once i had police with wailing lights behind me (no sirens) while i was waiting for a red light. I moved so they could pass but they didn't take the spot i gave them. Also there are stoplights in BKK which EVERYBODY ignores, when i stop there the other drivers will all horn at me.... The usage of emergency lights in Thailand is totally uncontrolled....even restaurants and streetvendors have them wailing at their shops. Motobikes installed them, cars use them as their brakelights.....not strange that people don't pay attention to them. And especially the police and ambulance should know how and when to use them....but they don't!! TIT where nobody is trained to do their job professionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, simon43 said: That video of Germans reacting to an ambulance siren should be played on TV every day, no words are necessary. It is also an argument about increments and the power of critical mass. Work slowly towards change it will gather momentum and direct itself. Just needs vision and commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steffi Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 At the very least this should incur a licence suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01322521959 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 32 minutes ago, sangfroid said: I hope this is not a reflection of Thai society as a whole .......IT IS!!! I've lived here to long and I like to try and find a few positives and hope thaty worst fears are never quite realised ... Sent from my i-mobile_i-STYLE_219 using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlcart Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I once was on the San Francisco Bay Bridge in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic when an ambulance came through with its sirens ringing. I was amazed at how all the drivers figured out a way to squeeze themselves into the smallest nooks to let the ambulance pass. It had nothing to do with laws, or police, or the government. It was just decent, thoughtful people cooperating and realizing what is good for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, teatree said: Compare and contrast with Thailand: How Germans React to Ambulance Siren In my naivety I thought it was like this all over the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 is their video of the angry mob at the house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Thais as a whole are not educated about the need for EMS priority and there is no willingness to enforce right of way rules. The ambulance was not driven in a responsible manner. et voila, la dead patient. Good job all around. Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, teatree said: Compare and contrast with Thailand: How Germans React to Ambulance Siren And that's how if should be all over the world! No Buts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooo Upto Me Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, teatree said: Compare and contrast with Thailand: How Germans React to Ambulance Siren The same in most civilised countries, but as we know Thailand is not, amongst other things here selfish, arrogant & just me me me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: ME ME ME ME ME ME Hard to find a car without a little scrape or two. Thing is though in the vid the pickup was black. Photo is clearly not the same car. two separate stories, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todlad Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Yes I get out of the way of all public service vehicles wherever I am driving and yes it must become a habit here too. It's not a difficult thing to learn is it? On the other hand I see ambulances and police cars stuck in traffic that seem to be waiting along with the rest of us. That is, there seems to be scope for driver training across the spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 cannot stop "Thainess" loosely translated as "mai pen rai" (I don't give a shit) see it daily here and have to learn to live with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smew Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 How very selfish, somehow not surprised TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Judging by the fact that the pickup driver offered to pay the police fine for the both of them, I have the impression that he might now realized what a mistake he made and may feel quilty. Too late now sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) don't ya feel like you just want to plant one on him, i sure as hell do, i see this every day from my condo, at rama 4 // sukhumvit road traffic lights. ambulancs from suk hospital, just sat there sirens wailing, not one vehicle even trying to make room for a pass. Edited January 19, 2017 by mercman24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, fruitman said: Last month my neighbour died at home (cancer). Ambulance came with wailing lights, left the lights on while loading her in and left with lights on into BKK-traffic. wanted to keep her fresh for organ harvesting.............. you dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Perfectly normal behaviour, of the selfish Thai Drivers / Riders of Thailand. Me Me and more Me, Shame on him Amazing Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Put big bull bars on the ambulances and if these inconsiderate self-centered <deleted> don't move, move them out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manrogi Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Making way for an ambulance is one of my main markers of a civilized society Thailand comes low down the list,though the sickening rhetoric goes on and on about how caring Thai society is When will schools ,temples and citizen leaders address this shameful issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstars Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I once seen it in Pattay where a VIP convoy was due to pass. An Ambulance with blaring sirens trying to go through towards BPH just 500 meters away from the hospital. A policeman posted at the traffic light jumps in front of the ambulance and slams with something on the windscreen . The convoy was still minutes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyjustice Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Would probably be given a ticket for pulling over. Just like driving with lights on. Thais have no idea of driving safety. It's not genetic. My TW got her first drivers license in Texas at 25. She's 65 now without an accident or ticket in US. It's the training and law enforcement at issue. I want to see it 5 years from now when new cars have automatic braking for front end avoidance. Somchi will not be able to tailgate 5 feet off your rear bumper. What will they do?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 3 hours ago, teatree said: Compare and contrast with Thailand: How Germans React to Ambulance Siren Wow- look at all that clear road I can drive on and race the ambulance says Somchai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike324 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I think thai ambulance driver needs to have speakers so they can tell drivers to get out of the way by speaking. I've seen emergency crews (firetrucks) do so and police who use the speaker to get to emergencies. It is very effective and people do move over right away. It will still take a long for drivers to move over themselves, it comes with the education, education is not improving anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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