UDD ready to sign MoU on reconciliation

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UDD ready to sign MoU on reconciliation

 

 

BANGKOK: -- The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) is ready to sign the government’s proposed Memorandum of Understanding on Reconciliation provided that the content of the document is based on the principles of justice and equality, said UDD chairman Jatuporn Promphan.

 

He also said that the red-shirt movement has no objection to military personnel joining the reconciliation panel.

 

“I feel that if reconciliation is not restored, the next election will be problematic,” said Jatuporn, adding that the issues of amnesty or Royal pardon for certain offenders should be put to rest if most agree that they should not talk about them.

 

Government spokeman Lt-Gen Sansern Kaewkamnerd, meanwhile, maintained that reconciliation issue was not a government’s gamble as portrayed by the media.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/udd-ready-sign-mou-reconciliation/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-01-23

[ChrisY1]

I understand that this goon is the president of the red shirts....so I'm guessing that then makes him the PT party leader?....and if so, as party leader if they happen to win, would he be PM? :))

[PatOngo]

23 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

I understand that this goon is the president of the red shirts....so I'm guessing that then makes him the PT party leader?....and if so, as party leader if they happen to win, would he be PM? :))

 

Is he a General???

[yellowboat]

20 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

I understand that this goon is the president of the red shirts....so I'm guessing that then makes him the PT party leader?....and if so, as party leader if they happen to win, would he be PM? :))

They are all goons.   Some are just elected.  And the red voting block in the north and east was 40% or more in the past.  We shall see fairly soon how the junta did in winning the hearts and minds of the people.  Threats will probably be the junta's campaign strategy. 

 

Doubt this fellow will be the front man. 

[robblok]

34 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

They are all goons.   Some are just elected.  And the red voting block in the north and east was 40% or more in the past.  We shall see fairly soon how the junta did in winning the hearts and minds of the people.  Threats will probably be the junta's campaign strategy. 

 

Doubt this fellow will be the front man. 

Latest polls don't seem good for the PTP and allies. (but then again what do polls say) 

[SaintLouisBlues]

12 minutes ago, robblok said:

Latest polls don't seem good for the PTP and allies. (but then again what do polls say) 

Accurate polls? In Thailand?

[robblok]

Just now, SaintLouisBlues said:

Accurate polls? In Thailand?

Was an article in the BKK post a few days ago, showed that PTP was doing worse than the democrats. Now given what we saw in other countries (Brexit, Thrump, ect) I don't hold much faith in polls anymore. 

[SaintLouisBlues]

9 minutes ago, robblok said:

Was an article in the BKK post a few days ago, showed that PTP was doing worse than the democrats. Now given what we saw in other countries (Brexit, Thrump, ect) I don't hold much faith in polls anymore. 

You think Prayut is going to allow publication of any poll that reflects badly on him or his aims?

[robblok]

5 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

You think Prayut is going to allow publication of any poll that reflects badly on him or his aims?

Nope, in that area he is the same as every other Thai government before him. Never seen a poll going against a government in power. That is why i said I don't hold much faith in them.Still will be interesting to see. The PTP has been out of power and income streams for a long time their strangle hold loosened so I expect them to do worse. We will see interesting times ahead. Would only hope they really do hold an election this year. 

[SaintLouisBlues]

9 minutes ago, robblok said:

Nope, in that area he is the same as every other Thai government before him. Never seen a poll going against a government in power. That is why i said I don't hold much faith in them.Still will be interesting to see. The PTP has been out of power and income streams for a long time their strangle hold loosened so I expect them to do worse. We will see interesting times ahead. Would only hope they really do hold an election this year. 

I'm betting on the 2010 replay. Maybe not this year, given the main event, but not too far away

[robblok]

Just now, SaintLouisBlues said:

I'm betting on the 2010 replay. Maybe not this year, given the main event, but not too far away

You are saying violent red shirts on the streets after they can't form a government ? Lets hope not have got my belly full of them. Let them occupy Chang Mai or something like that.

 

Anyway I really doubt the military will allow them to go on the streets in BKK. No way. 

[SaintLouisBlues]

10 minutes ago, robblok said:

You are saying violent red shirts on the streets after they can't form a government ? Lets hope not have got my belly full of them. Let them occupy Chang Mai or something like that.

 

Anyway I really doubt the military will allow them to go on the streets in BKK. No way. 

I hope you've made contingency plans then

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

I hope you've made contingency plans then

I doubt it will happen, the army will be far more in control and we learned from the past. Just won't happen. But interesting times ahead, i'm curious what will happen. I really do wonder if the PTP is finally broken or not.

 

I can see the army allowing them to shut down Chang Mai as a compromise.. but never again in BKK. They have too much face to lose. 

[smedly]

The Photo in the OP

 

an idiot and 5 growlers that think they are powerful and want to rule something 

[baboon]

12 minutes ago, smedly said:

The Photo in the OP

 

an idiot and 5 growlers that think they are powerful and want to rule something 

How unusual for people in politics to seek power..

At least a mandate from the electorate is required, unlike if you are the army.

[smedly]

22 minutes ago, baboon said:

The Photo in the OP

 

an idiot and 5 growlers that think they are powerful and want to rule something 

 

22 minutes ago, baboon said:

How unusual for people in politics to seek power..

At least a mandate from the electorate is required, unlike if you are the army.

who out of those pictured are in politics

 

UDD is Thaksins terrorist wing affiliated to PTP, everyone but you seems to know this......baboon

 

baboons are quite intelligent (relatively speaking) compared to the rest of the animal kingdom and that is 100% a fact as evidence shows - are you getting me

[Baerboxer]

3 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

I understand that this goon is the president of the red shirts....so I'm guessing that then makes him the PT party leader?....and if so, as party leader if they happen to win, would he be PM? :))

 

No he isn't. He was appointed President of the UDD, as all the other leaders were appointed. No elections were ever held and no one ever admitted how they were appointed. Draw your own conclusion.

 

PTP has a different party leader. Not to be confused with their former PM. Yingluck was chosen as PM by their MP's but was never the PTP leader. That was a different appointment. Jatuporn was a PTP party list MP. He voiced his desire to be a Minister or Deputy Minister like his friend and also non elected UDD leader and fellow PTP party list MP Nat. 

 

Now has to who appoints the UDD leadership, the PTP leader, the PTP party list MP's - well, maybe the person who owns them?

[Baerboxer]

34 minutes ago, baboon said:

How unusual for people in politics to seek power..

At least a mandate from the electorate is required, unlike if you are the army.

 

Don't think Jatuporn has a mandate from the UDD membership. His Presidential office was gifted to him by a benefactor.

[baboon]

33 minutes ago, smedly said:

 

who out of those pictured are in politics

 

UDD is Thaksins terrorist wing affiliated to PTP, everyone but you seems to know this......baboon

 

baboons are quite intelligent (relatively speaking) compared to the rest of the animal kingdom and that is 100% a fact as evidence shows - are you getting me

Who out of those pictured are in politics? All of them. That is why the junta want them to sign off on this 'reconciliation' flapdoodle that they themselves will not sign.

 

I'm getting you think I am a (bit of a) knob, so why not just say that? It looks better than trying and failing to be witty.

[George Graham]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

You are saying violent red shirts on the streets after they can't form a government ? Lets hope not have got my belly full of them. Let them occupy Chang Mai or something like that.

 

Anyway I really doubt the military will allow them to go on the streets in BKK. No way. 

Robbie you have enunciated perfectly the"elite/yellow shirt"  attitude - Thailand = Bangkok and everyone else can go to hell.

[robblok]

5 minutes ago, George Graham said:

Robbie you have enunciated perfectly the"elite/yellow shirt"  attitude - Thailand = Bangkok and everyone else can go to hell.

Not really, Chang Mai is powerbase of reds let them cause trouble there. Why should they inconvenience the good people of BKK again and again. They did enough trouble in the pas. I also don't want any yellows out on the street now its time for some sensibility.  If either side want to protest let them so do without bothering the silent majority that has enough from their lives getting disrupted. 

[George Graham]

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

Not really, Chang Mai is powerbase of reds let them cause trouble there. Why should they inconvenience the good people of BKK again and again. They did enough trouble in the pas. I also don't want any yellows out on the street now its time for some sensibility.  If either side want to protest let them so do without bothering the silent majority that has enough from their lives getting disrupted. 

It will be seen, hopefully, in the not too distant future, that your so-called "silent majority" is, in fact, largely composed of red shirts.

[henry15]

What a few weeks in jail can do, with a loudmouth like him

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, George Graham said:

It will be seen, hopefully, in the not too distant future, that your so-called "silent majority" is, in fact, largely composed of red shirts.

Thanks i needed a laugh and it was a good one too.. took me a while to pick myself up laughing. The red shirts have never been a real majority they will never be one either.

 

Anyway lets agree to hope for a fast election. 

[robblok]

1 minute ago, henry15 said:

What a few weeks in jail can do, with a loudmouth like him

 

Yes prison does seem to help. From a pitbull to a poodle. 

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

Accurate polls? In Thailand?

Same agency that predicted Clinton would win in the USA

[FritsSikkink]

4 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

I understand that this goon is the president of the red shirts....so I'm guessing that then makes him the PT party leader?....and if so, as party leader if they happen to win, would he be PM? :))

No he has been in jail

[SaintLouisBlues]

9 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Same agency that predicted Clinton would win in the USA

I don't recall a Thai opinion pollster asking Thais who they thought would win the US presidential election, and even if they did what value it would have

[FritsSikkink]

35 minutes ago, George Graham said:

Robbie you have enunciated perfectly the"elite/yellow shirt"  attitude - Thailand = Bangkok and everyone else can go to hell.

You are forgetting that the south is yellow shirt too

[billd766]

4 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

I understand that this goon is the president of the red shirts....so I'm guessing that then makes him the PT party leader?....and if so, as party leader if they happen to win, would he be PM? :))

 

Not so.

 

The UDD is NOT a political party but the PTP is/was.

 

They are different entities and whilst some members of the UDD were MPs and ministers in the last PTP government, Jatuporn was not selected even from the PTP party list.

 

There is a minute chance that at the next election, if an unelected person were to be chosen for PM it could be him but not really likely.

 

From Wikipedia.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheu_Thai_Party

 

Chairman	Charupong Ruangsuwan
General Secretary	Phumtham Wechayachai
Spokesperson	Prompong Nopparith
Founded	20 September 2008; 8 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Front_for_Democracy_Against_Dictatorship

 

Founded2006 (as the "Democratic Alliance Against Dictatorship" or DAAD)

TypePressure group
Political group

FocusDissolve the "aristocratic polity"

Area served

Thailand

Key people

Jatuporn Prompan (Chairman)
Veera Musikapong
Nattawut Saikua (Spokesman/Secretary General)
Dr. Weng Tojirakarn (Leader of UDD Peace Unit)
Kokaew Pikulthong
Thida Thavornseth (Former Chairperson) [1][2]