webfact Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 UK Bribery Report due next week : Wissanu By PICHAYA CHANGSORN, NATTHAPAT PHROMKAEW THE NATION Bribers and takers to be named in the report BANGKOK: -- THE NATIONAL Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) expected to receive details from the UK next week about its probe into bribes of more than Bt1 billion paid by aircraft engine-maker Rolls-Royce to Thai officials in connection with Thai Airways International (THAI)’s purchase of Boeing aircraft between 1991 and 2005. Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam, who was also deputy premier in 2004 during the Thaksin Shinawatra administration, said he could not remember the details of Cabinet resolutions during that time concerning the approval for THAI to buy Rolls-Royce engines. Isra News Agency reported that the Cabinet on November 23, 2004 approved a proposal submitted by Transport Minister Suriya Jungrungreangkit to buy 14 air planes for Thai Airways International at the price of Bt96.355 billion. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30304769 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-01-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: Bribers and takers to be named in the report Wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Wishful thinking. so pigs DO FLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just in case they didn't need a heads-up to flee the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just waiting for the death sentence.....tam...tam...tam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Now I'm waiting for another example of: briber gets punished - taker walks free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 hours ago, webfact said: [Wissanu] he could not remember the details of Cabinet resolutions during that time concerning the approval for THAI to buy Rolls-Royce engines. What a lucky break. Probably more details forgotten to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Srikcir said: [Wissanu] he could not remember the details of Cabinet resolutions during that time concerning the approval for THAI to buy Rolls-Royce engines. Jog his memory - it was round about the time he deposited a huge sum of money in his account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 The ultimate conclusion will be that the statute of limitations has expired (this has now been removed as an impediment, but the new law won't apply to these cases). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, zaphod reborn said: The ultimate conclusion will be that the statute of limitations has expired (this has now been removed as an impediment, but the new law won't apply to these cases). Looking at the diagram in the article, what a break for this military administration, they can hammer the Pheua Thai lot but no need to look into corruption during military, technocrat or Democrat administrations as the statute of limitations has expired. However, this is always a degree of overlap between the two sides. Many politicians and business tycoons are opportunistic and simply join the side who is currently in charge. Prayut needs all the friends he can get. So, it would be difficult for the current Prayut regime to isolate its enemies without collateral damage. So, probably nothing will happen. It will all fizzle out. Damage to the reputation of the country will be cited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Not enough evidence case closed..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Follow the money... OK, not there, or there, definitely not there... Surely we can find a red-shirt who was involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Fairfield Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Rolls Royce bribery scandal probe to finish in 30 days The minister of transport and the minister of energy yesterday instructed relevant government agencies to finish investigation into the briberies exposed by Rolls Royce within 30 days. Their instructions came as Rolls Royce admitted of paying bribes to airline executives and politicians in many countries to get purchase contracts of their Rolls Royce engines, and Thailand was among the countries mentioned. Energy Minister Gen Anantaporn Kanchanarat said that PTT Plc has also been implicated in the Rolls Royce bribery case with regard to the purchase of the company’s machineries used for energy exploration. An investigative committee has been formed and he instructed it to present its findings within 30 days. Meanwhile Transport Minister Akhom Termpitayapaisit also stated that he is awaiting the results of an internal Thai Airways Plc’s probe into the bribery charges. He said THAI president Jarumporn Chotikasathien has been appointed to head the investigative committee and was also instructed to complete the probe within 30 days as well. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/rolls-royce-bribery-scandal-probe-finish-30-days/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-01-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, webfact said: Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam, who was also deputy premier in 2004 during the Thaksin Shinawatra administration, said he could not remember the details of Cabinet resolutions during that time concerning the approval for THAI to buy Rolls-Royce engines. He was also in the Thaksin regime? What a political chameleon. He claims he does not remember. I guess the brain washing process went to far. Edited January 24, 2017 by elgordo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, elgordo38 said: He was also in the Thaksin regime? What a political chameleon. Perhaps not to the same extent as Newin Chinchob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said: Perhaps not to the same extent as Newin Chinchob Your knowledge of Thai politics is much deeper than mine. Who was Chinjob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 hours ago, mikebell said: Jog his memory - it was round about the time he deposited a huge sum of money in his account. Oh you mean that time... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, elgordo38 said: Your knowledge of Thai politics is much deeper than mine. Who was Chinjob I'm wondering how long my response will last before being taken down. Chidchob is one of the money men of NE Thai politics. He was a leading player in the Thaksin governments. However, seeing which way the wind was blowing he threw in his lot with the Democrats and by all accounts spent considerably more money vote buying in the NE than the Thaksin forces in the last general election. Nevertheless his largesse was in vain; the Thaksin forces triumphed in the region, and Chidchob's party was reduced to a rump. It's a salutary tale for all those who believe that the only thing that matters in Thai politics is money, and the Thaksin parties only win because they spend the most money on vote buying. If you google "newin chidchob newmadala" you'll find plenty of reading matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said: I'm wondering how long my response will last before being taken down. Chidchob is one of the money men of NE Thai politics. He was a leading player in the Thaksin governments. However, seeing which way the wind was blowing he threw in his lot with the Democrats and by all accounts spent considerably more money vote buying in the NE than the Thaksin forces in the last general election. Nevertheless his largesse was in vain; the Thaksin forces triumphed in the region, and Chidchob's party was reduced to a rump. It's a salutary tale for all those who believe that the only thing that matters in Thai politics is money, and the Thaksin parties only win because they spend the most money on vote buying. If you google "newin chidchob newmadala" you'll find plenty of reading matter Yeah, there's two ways to buy votes from poor people. 1. give cash upfront. 2. promise more cash after election (rarely paid out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, hobz said: Yeah, there's two ways to buy votes from poor people. 1. give cash upfront. 2. promise more cash after election (rarely paid out) Geeze at least here they are promised cash. We are promised change. Been waiting 60 years for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just now, elgordo38 said: Geeze at least here they are promised cash. We are promised change. Been waiting 60 years for that. Well, technically i think they were not promised cash, they were promised various populist things that would save them money,, like free healthcare and subsidies for rice etc and various other "schemes" i bet :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, hobz said: Yeah, there's two ways to buy votes from poor people. 1. give cash upfront. 2. promise more cash after election (rarely paid out) Generally that's a one-off thimble-and-pea trick, you can't go on getting away with it, election after election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just now, hobz said: Well, technically i think they were not promised cash, they were promised various populist things that would save them money,, like free healthcare and subsidies for rice etc and various other "schemes" i bet :D Just now, hobz said: Well, technically i think they were not promised cash, they were promised various populist things that would save them money,, like free healthcare and subsidies for rice etc and various other "schemes" i bet :D Gee I read the word cash. And the other "schemes" like free healthcare sound realistic to me and the present "government" is subsidizing rice so technically I am OK with technical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just now, SaintLouisBlues said: Generally that's a one-off thimble-and-pea trick, you can't go on getting away with it, election after election Yeah, there's a reason the red shirts wins every election here... it's because they focus on various schemes to help farmers etc... but hey... what choices do the farmers have here? Do you think they feel represented by the bangkok elite? Do you think the bangkok elite would care if they all starved to death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 11 hours ago, NanLaew said: Wishful thinking. They will have a few scrap goats to take the blame locally and just hope that Rolls-Royce does not know the real names of whom they were dealing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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