Trump's spokesman promises reporters 'never to lie'

[webfact]

Trump's spokesman promises reporters 'never to lie'

By Roberta Rampton

REUTERS

 

White House spokesman Sean Spicer holds a press briefing at the White House in Washington January 23, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's press secretary promised reporters on Monday that he would never lie after a weekend briefing in which he made statements about the crowd size for Trump's inauguration that were debunked.

 

In comments to reporters on Saturday that became known as the "alternative facts" briefing, White House spokesman Sean Spicer declared that Trump's crowd was "the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration - period."

 

Photographs showed the crowds at Trump's swearing-in on Friday were smaller than Barack Obama's first presidential inauguration in 2009.

 

Spicer's statement drew further criticism after Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway said on Sunday the White House had wanted to "put alternative facts out there" to counter what she said was a biased media.

 

At his first formal White House briefing on Monday, Spicer was asked by a reporter if he intended to always tell the truth from the lectern.

 

"Our intention is never to lie to you," he replied.

 

Spicer defended his right to give the administration's point of view.

 

He said he had been including television and online viewers in his remarks on Saturday about the size of the inauguration crowd. He told reporters that Trump and his advisers had been frustrated by "demoralizing" coverage that he called a "constant attempt to undermine his credibility."

 

"I want to have a healthy relationship with the press," Spicer said.

 

Spicer answered questions on a wide range of policy issues, with a focus on trade policy. He did not take questions from reporters on Saturday.

 

"That moves it away from the acrimonious session on Saturday," said Martha Kumar, a political scientist and emeritus professor at Towson University in Maryland who studies the relationship between the White House and its press corps.

 

Spicer took questions from 43 reporters - more than twice the average, Kumar said in an interview.

 

He also said he would start taking questions from four "Skype seats" later this week to allow news organisations outside of Washington to participate.

 

(Additional reporting by David Alexander; Editing by Peter Cooney)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-01-24

[craigt3365]

I think he just lied again? LOL

 

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He said he had been including television and online viewers in his remarks on Saturday about the size of the inauguration crowd. He told reporters that Trump and his advisers had been frustrated by "demoralizing" coverage that he called a "constant attempt to undermine his credibility."

 

Hard not to undermine his credibility when he lies....

[NumbNut]

Fool me once, shame on you.

 

Fool me twice, shame on me.

[pitrevie]

Sorry but your credibility has been shredded following your ludicrous assertion or "alternative facts" as they are now known claiming mine were bigger than yours. Also you represent someone whose stock in trade is lying on an industrial scale.

[optad]

Four years of pantomime begins

[NumbNut]

5 minutes ago, pitrevie said:

Sorry but your credibility has been shredded following your ludicrous assertion or "alternative facts" as they are now known claiming mine were bigger than yours. Also you represent someone whose stock in trade is lying on an industrial scale.

 

Exactly. This bloke hasn't just shot himself in his foot, he's blown it clean off.

 

No coming back from this BS. 'Alternative facts'? Just <deleted> off, it's an insult to any thinking person, from the left or the right, to expect this to fly and have any credence left whatsoever.

 

Play this BS and you can expect the flogging from all and sundry that you will receive!

Edited January 24, 2017 by NumbNut

[Credo]

Jesus, there's usually a honeymoon period with the press when a new President takes office.   This one hasn't lasted as long as some of the wild, drunken marriages in Las Vegas.   

[Thakkar]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Trump's press secretary promised reporters on Monday that he would never lie 

 

Yet, he later also said this:
there's been a "dramatic expansion of the federal workforce in recent years."

 

Which is unequivocally false, both in terms of ratio as well as absolute numbers.

 

 

 

 

If anyone buys this latest lie not to lie, they are like the abused wife who buys her husband's promise never to hit her again.

 

The false statement about federal employees was a prelude to institute hiring and pay freezes so as to starve federal agencies of the res courses they need to of regulating industries and institutions to keep those institutions honest and prevent abuses. It also means that agencies that agree to do Trump's bidding can have the freezes lifted. It's a power play.

[lannarebirth]

^ I believe the spokesman may be referring to both federal government employees and federal government contract employees. Federal government contract employees have nearly doubled since 2000.

[ilostmypassword]

Spiceer just promised never to lie? Only if he takes a vow of silence.

Edited January 24, 2017 by ilostmypassword

[elgordo38]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

"Our intention is never to lie to you," he replied.

Intentions are always great and in most cases fail. Look at marriage where we all go with good intentions and yet 50% fail. 

[Jingthing]

It's a special skill to be a propaganda minister for such a bizarre mental case as President trump. Shaky start but I guess someone has to do that job. 

[elgordo38]

5 hours ago, Thakkar said:

 

Yet, he later also said this:
there's been a "dramatic expansion of the federal workforce in recent years."

 

Which is unequivocally false, both in terms of ratio as well as absolute numbers.

 

 

 

 

If anyone buys this latest lie not to lie, they are like the abused wife who buys her husband's promise never to hit her again.

 

The false statement about federal employees was a prelude to institute hiring and pay freezes so as to starve federal agencies of the res courses they need to of regulating industries and institutions to keep those institutions honest and prevent abuses. It also means that agencies that agree to do Trump's bidding can have the freezes lifted. It's a power play.

Hey the money has to be raises somewhere for the tax reductions of the rich and buying another God knows how many naval ships as he promised and the army is more than likely standing there with their hand out as well. Get used to this mouthpiece it will be the same daily grind "we will not lie to you" junk and no I would not buy a used car from this guy. 

[dageurreotype]

 

Trump's spokesman promises reporters 'never to lie'

 

Unlike the 'reporters' .

[Opl]

As far as I can understand ... " Alternative fact" is the PC expression for "lie", so Sean Spicer is honestly telling the thruth: Trump Administration does'nt intend to lie, it simply lives another reality.

Also I can figure out how risky it is for any member of this Administration to displease the Head of the Oval Office with facts that are not in line with the official narrative.

Former USSR's people used to live in a double reality too.  

  

Edited January 24, 2017 by Opl

[optad]

17 minutes ago, Opl said:

As far as I can understand ... " Alternative fact" is the PC expression for "lie", so Sean Spicer is honestly telling the thruth: Trump Administration does'nt intend to lie, it simply lives another reality.

Also I can figure out how risky it is for any member of this Administration to displease the Head of the Oval Office with facts that are not in line with the official narrative.

USSR's people used to live in a double reality too.  

  

Why is this even debatable? Have you lost your sense of perspective? 

[Opl]

8 minutes ago, optad said:

Why is this even debatable? Have you lost your sense of perspective? 

The link between reality and truth is that what is said about reality is true or false depending on what exists or does not exist. In other words, reality is a criterion of truth. The thought or proposition in which things and their relations are represented as they are in reality will be held to be true. Hence the: "veritas est adequatio intellectus et rei", truth is the appropriateness of thought and things. This is called the theory of truth-correspondence.

 

Take a (deep)  breathe and relax...

Edited January 24, 2017 by Opl

[craigt3365]

38 minutes ago, dageurreotype said:

 

Trump's spokesman promises reporters 'never to lie'

 

Unlike the 'reporters' .

So far, the MSM doesn't have to lie.  Trump and his staff are taking the charge!

[Emster23]

" "Our intention is never to lie to you," " And as we have heard, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

[optad]

3 minutes ago, Opl said:

The link between reality and truth is that what is said about reality is true or false depending on what exists or does not exist. In other words, reality is a criterion of truth. The thought or proposition in which things and their relations are represented as they are in reality will be held to be true. Hence the: "veritas est adequatio intellectus et rei", truth is the appropriateness of thought and things. This is called the theory of truth-correspondence.

 

Take a (deep)  breathe and relax...

Why does Donald have to semantically redefine  what is commonly know as to be a "lie"?

 

Ans why are we talking about this? It is a post truth world. 

 

Surely he has better things to do day two? Or doesn't he. Absolute deflection is a political game. Just four years of semantic blathering. Even having to answer this post makes me think Trump has nothing to offer his supporters defending him. 

The Post-Truth Era: Dishonesty and Deception in Contemporary Life

[whaleboneman]

This administration is going to give Thailand a run for its money.

[DM07]

He shall be known by his new name: Washington Bob!

[Guitar God]

The check's in the mail. 

I promise not to come in your mouth. 

Sean Spicer won't lie. 

[Thakkar]

Some #Spicerfacts from Twitter

"Coconuts are mammals 'cause they have hair & produce milk."

"You're free to leave the Hotel California whenever you'd like." 

"Crystal Pepsi was the most delicious soft drink in history. Period."

President Trump has captured and killed Bin Laden with his own two massive hands.

 

There's so much more at twitter

‪https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpicerFacts?src=hash‬

[Thakkar]

5 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

^ I believe the spokesman may be referring to both federal government employees and federal government contract employees. Federal government contract employees have nearly doubled since 2000.

Oh, man don't get me started on that. This privatization may have started out with good intentions but has become a decades old long-scam that's screwing workers and transferring even more money from taxpayers to the already rich who run these government contracting companies and who are a big part of this insidious revolving door between government and private corporations. The head of black water is now a Trump advisor, his sister is slated to become education secretary. Former WH chief of staff heads Halliburton, then leave Halliburton to become Vp. Etc, etc.

 

I believe Spicer means actual fed employees because they want to accelerate this privatization.

[Opl]

Stephen Colbert resurrects his Colbert Report 'The Word' segment to define 'Trumpiness'

 

"You see, truthiness is believing something that feels true, even if it isn't supported by fact. Here's the deal: Truthiness was from the gut, but Trumpiness clearly comes from much further down the gastrointestinal tract."

 

http://theweek.com/speedreads/675332/jimmy-kimmel-loves-new-trump-phrase-alternative-facts-lists-some

[dunroaming]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

President Donald Trump's press secretary promised reporters on Monday that he would never lie after a weekend briefing in which he made statements about the crowd size for Trump's inauguration that were debunked.

It's OK saying he won't lie but what about his master?  Trump is the one that lies at the drop of a hat and his "team" rush around trying to defend him.

[Thakkar]

[yardrunner]

6 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

^ I believe the spokesman may be referring to both federal government employees and federal government contract employees. Federal government contract employees have nearly doubled since 2000.

MAY !!!!!!!!

[ResandePohm]

7 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

^ I believe the spokesman may be referring to both federal government employees and federal government contract employees. Federal government contract employees have nearly doubled since 2000.

If that is the case why doesn't he make that clear instead of saying things that are unclear? He is just asking for a bashing in the press and media.