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Syria carried out mass hangings at military prison - Amnesty International

REUTERS

 

BEIRUT (Reuters) - The Syrian government has executed thousands of prisoners in mass hangings and carried out systematic torture at a military jail near Damascus, rights watchdog Amnesty International said on Tuesday.

 

Amnesty said the executions took place between 2011 and 2015, but were probably still being carried out and amounted to war crimes. It called for a U.N. investigation.

 

Syria's government and President Bashar al-Assad have rejected similar reports in the past of torture and extrajudicial killings in a civil war that has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives.

 

The Amnesty report said an average of 20-50 people were hanged each week at the Sednaya military prison north of Damascus. Between 5,000 and 13,000 people were executed at Sednaya in the four years after Syria's popular uprising descended into civil war, it said.

 

"The victims are overwhelmingly civilians who are thought to oppose the government," the report said.

 

"Many other detainees at Sednaya Military Prison have been killed after being repeatedly tortured and systematically deprived of food, water, medicine and medical care."

 

The prisoners, who included former military personnel suspected of disloyalty and people involved in unrest, underwent sham trials before military courts and were sometimes forced to make confessions under torture, Amnesty said.

 

The executions were carried out secretly and those killed were buried at mass graves outside the capital, with families not informed of their fate, it said.

 

The report was based on interviews with 84 witnesses including former guards and officials, detainees, judges and lawyers, as well as experts on detention in Syria.

 

"The Syrian state's backers, in particular Russia, with its permanent seat on the Security Council, and Iran, must condemn the extrajudicial executions and extermination policies of the Syrian state and do what is in their power to bring them to an end," Amnesty said.

 

(Reporting by John Davison)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-07

 

[craigt3365]

Who would have thought.  And still, some support the mass murder Assad.

[simple1]

11 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Who would have thought.  And still, some support the mass murder Assad.

As you know over the years there have been numerous reports of torture and murder of thousands,  including children, in Assad's prisons. Likely some member/s will come along & call AI a bunch of illinformed lefties, MSN 'false news' and other drivel

[Stargeezr]

Maybe some day if some one actually takes Assad out of power, there can be an 

Investigation.  Hopefully that will be sooner than later, as the man needs to be

held accountable for his crimes.

[Srikcir]

Asaad - another leader Trump respects.

[chuang]

So the ISIS must be angels. 

[simple1]

29 minutes ago, chuang said:

So the ISIS must be angels. 

I assume you're of the opinion the murdered are ISIS members. From the AI report...

 

Saydnaya Military Prison is where the Syrian state quietly slaughters its own people. The victims are overwhelmingly ordinary civilians who are thought to oppose the government.

Edited February 7, 2017 by simple1

[Rimmer]

A troll post has been trashed

[craigt3365]

25 minutes ago, chuang said:

So the ISIS must be angels. 

About the same as Assad.  Definitely not angels.

[khunken]

Yes Syria has had an awful human rights record so it was an ideal country for one of the many CIA rendition sites used to torture alleged terrorists.

 

Syria was one of the “most common destinations for rendered suspects,” as were Egypt and Jordan. One Syrian prison facility contained individual cells that were roughly the size of coffins.  Detainees report incidents of torture involving a chair frame used to stretch the spine (the “German chair”) and beatings.

 

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/20-extraordinary-facts-about-cia-extraordinary-rendition-and-secret-detention

 

This is only one of many sites that has reported this. It is not fake news.

[i claudius]

We all know Assad is an evil bastard ,but unfortunately as we on the west have found out in that part of the world ,if you remove the likes of him ,more evil bastards just take their place,I say leave them to fight and kill each other,the west should keep out.

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[oldsailor35]

Then why do we see so many civilians who openly support Assad and condemn ISIS.  It does not make sense, but dispose of Assad as they did Hussain and Gadaffi and we all know what will happen, especially with ISIS just waiting for this kind of help.

[peergin]

Dr Death in Damascus Is a mass murderer. Would you believe that he is a medical doctor?! What happened to his Hippocratic oath? Not only is he responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, but he has also destroyed his own country. There is nothing left of it.

I don't understand that somebody has not dropped a barrel bomb on his head. Should be done now, urgently. And, while they are at it, another one elsewhere.

P.S. For a graphic description of the terror and killing in Assad's military prison see The Guardian's (U.K.) website: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/07/saydnaya-prison-assad-slaugterhouse-amnesty-report-torture-mass-hangings

 

 

[Gulfsailor]

6 hours ago, i claudius said:

We all know Assad is an evil bastard ,but unfortunately as we on the west have found out in that part of the world ,if you remove the likes of him ,more evil bastards just take their place,I say leave them to fight and kill each other,the west should keep out.

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The mantra of the West when it comes to the Middle East and N Africa is Divide and Rule. That means keep stoking up internal Muslim fires, so they direct their energy inwards. The last thing the West (and certainly Israel!) wants, is a unified Muslim world, where Sunnis and Shiites come together.

 

Thats also why Trump's remarks and actions are so dangerous, as it will unite the Muslims against the West. Obama (ironically often being accused of being Muslim or at least Muslim friendly) followed the divide and rule mantra to perfection, with secret ops, drone strikes, and 'rebel' financing and supply. All with minimal boots on the ground. Since then the Middle East and N Africa are on fire, but when was the last major terrorist attack in the US? Or which geographical regions has Islam recently expanded into? 

 

So in conclusion: the West can't stay out. In order for them to just kill each other as you hope for, the West (and Russia) has to stay involved, and play an active role in making sure they are killing one another. It's called the Long War, and it's nasty. 

[bokningar]

6 hours ago, peergin said:

What happened to his Hippocratic oath?

I think he took the hypocrite oath. 

[NumbNut]

6 hours ago, Gulfsailor said:

The mantra of the West when it comes to the Middle East and N Africa is Divide and Rule. That means keep stoking up internal Muslim fires, so they direct their energy inwards. The last thing the West (and certainly Israel!) wants, is a unified Muslim world, where Sunnis and Shiites come together.

 

Thats also why Trump's remarks and actions are so dangerous, as it will unite the Muslims against the West. Obama (ironically often being accused of being Muslim or at least Muslim friendly) followed the divide and rule mantra to perfection, with secret ops, drone strikes, and 'rebel' financing and supply. All with minimal boots on the ground. Since then the Middle East and N Africa are on fire, but when was the last major terrorist attack in the US? Or which geographical regions has Islam recently expanded into? 

 

So in conclusion: the West can't stay out. In order for them to just kill each other as you hope for, the West (and Russia) has to stay involved, and play an active role in making sure they are killing one another. It's called the Long War, and it's nasty. 

 

People speak of conspiracy theories like the moon landing, 9/11 and who shot JFK, but the outline you've given above GulfSailor is something I can unfortunately really believe in and the only so-called conspiracy theory I can subscribe to.

 

Hang on a tick, I forgot to add the oldest conspiracy theory of them all, the rich against the poor... the only other conspiracy theory I can definitely get behind!

 

[craigt3365]

8 hours ago, oldsailor35 said:

Then why do we see so many civilians who openly support Assad and condemn ISIS.  It does not make sense, but dispose of Assad as they did Hussain and Gadaffi and we all know what will happen, especially with ISIS just waiting for this kind of help.

Assad has his supporters.  Hitler had his supporters as did Stalin and Mao.  Sadly, some don't see through the smoke and mirrors.  But just because they support Assad doesn't mean they support ISIS, quite the contrary.

 

The Middle East is a big mess with NO easy answers.

[simple1]

10 hours ago, oldsailor35 said:

Then why do we see so many civilians who openly support Assad and condemn ISIS.  It does not make sense, but dispose of Assad as they did Hussain and Gadaffi and we all know what will happen, especially with ISIS just waiting for this kind of help.

Sunnis, Christians, other minorities and his own sect support Assad in government controlled areas, as demonstrated by the OP would not be a good option not to do so, plus of course access to the massive corruption for the elite in his dictatorship. When Assad couldn't properly train and arm his sects conscripts it resulted in huge casualties and desertions that led to open Russian intervention. I beleive Assad's hold on power is constantly subject to internal power fights as seems to be de rigour with any dictatorship.

 

It does seem currently there is not any Syrian who could  unify Syria and acceptable to Iran. In addition it's possible the Trump Administration would create chaos if an Iranian proxy were to gain power in Syria.