Repudiation Of Paternity

[kangaloowest]

9 hours ago, The Man Who Sold the World said:

J1 li1 White;

 

Can a court force a DNA paternity test?

Well, of course. Courts have power.

 

The real question here is are you the father. You need to know. You should be requesting the paternity test to confirm or deny parentage.

 

Once you have determined if you are the father, then (if necessary) you can fulfill your parental responsibilities to your child.

 

If the child is yours you have a moral obligation to prepare the child for life in todays world. Not a responsibility to shirk or be taken lightly. This parental obligation is yours regardless or the mothers actions. If the DNA test shows you are the Dad - you are responsible for the child. Take care of your son.

 

If the DNA test shows you are not the father - you can walk away without obligation, head held high and a clear mind.

 

Good luck.  

 

 

Well said !

[catman20]

13 hours ago, smotherb said:

You sure do have no clue.

 

So, now you claim it's only a matter of opinion as to whether or not a father should help support his child, eh?

 

You're not being trapped by some hooker, if the DNA proves it's yours.

OK you obviously want the the word key board worrier.

[alex8912]

11 hours ago, Stevemercer said:

The mother clearly wanted the child (for whatever reason), but didn't tell the supposed father until after the child was born. If she wanted the father in her life (or the child's life), she would have told him once she knew she was pregnant. The father could have paid for an abortion if that is what she wanted. Her choice.

 

Maybe the mother doesn't really know what she wants. Maybe she just wanted a farang baby, maybe she just wants financial support, maybe she wants the farang back, maybe the father is someone else who has done a runner. Who knows? But the best advice for a farang is to stay out of the whole mess if you can.

 

 

 

 

The "mess" being vaginas?? Can you elaborate on "mess"?? 

[deepinlaos]

OP I wouldn't believe a word these thai women come out with.

[smotherb]

2 hours ago, catman20 said:

OK you obviously want the the word key board worrier.

Why should I worry about the keyboard?  Is this the best defense you can make for your statements?

[Stevemercer]

What would a Thai man do in this circumstance?

 

[kangaloowest]

13 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Whether or not Thai men use condoms and/or accept responsibility is totally besides the point.

 

You father a child, that child is your responsibility to ensure the child has food and clothing and an education, and emotional well-being, caring, love and stability, at the very least.

 

The question that I asked is, 
"Why then, don't they do that with all cases of pregnancy against Thai men ???"

 

The "Point" I wanted to find out is:

"Why doesn't the Thai law hold Thai men accountable ??"

The only reason I asked this question was, a Law firm in Thailand, that specialises, came forward and gave an answer.

 

Never, was it in question about responsibility !

 

 

 

 

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

What would a Thai man do in this circumstance?
 

I don't know. It would most likely depend on the income level an standing of the people involved. Not really sure how it is relevant or helpful for the OP.

[Deepinthailand]

2 hours ago, Stevemercer said:

What would a Thai man do in this circumstance?

 

Who cares this is a thread about a French man not a thai.

[MyFriend You]

I think he is a Troll, for something so important he hasn't answered a single comment beyond the  second entry out of a hundred..............to the Op, take the DNA test for peace of mind, if the child is yours, take responsibility, if not, get a vasectomy because for you to worry so much about such a thing shows your not fit to be a father anyway.

[catman20]

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Edited February 12, 2017 by catman20

[catman20]

8 hours ago, smotherb said:

Why should I worry about the keyboard?  Is this the best defense you can make for your statements?

who mentioned the word worry ?

[catman20]

On 2/11/2017 at 5:27 PM, smotherb said:

You sure do have no clue.

 

So, now you claim it's only a matter of opinion as to whether or not a father should help support his child, eh?

 

You're not being trapped by some hooker, if the DNA proves it's yours.

i bet your a married man who has no clue about what really going on here in Thailand. thats of course assuming you live here.

Edited February 12, 2017 by catman20

[smotherb]

49 minutes ago, catman20 said:

i bet your a married man who has no clue about what really going on here in Thailand. thats of course assuming you live here.

 

Me no clue? Can you actually recall what you posted?

This started when brewsterbudgen said, “It would be pretty irresponsible to walk away.  If you are the father a DNA test should prove it . . . ”

YOU said, “ . . . or be responsible and mess the rest of your life up. so many of these girls try to trap a man for there own means, if it was a one night stand move on if its a loving relationship try to work it out.”

So, if the DNA shows it’s your child, you don’t want to mess up the rest of your life by being responsible and taking care of the child? And, you rationalize if it is a one-night-stand the child somehow doesn’t count.

Then YOU said, “ . . . we are all entailed to our own options you have yours and i  have mine. i  am not a victim to be trapped by some hooker, if you are crack on, enjoy . . . ”

Well, I suppose to some, owning up to your personal responsibilities and obligations is an option. But, how are you being trapped by a hooker if the DNA proves it’s your child?

Did she trick you into having sex without a condom?

Now, you are inferring someone who is married and/or doesn’t live in Thailand would have no knowledge about fathering a child or any opinion about the social and financial obligations incurred by fatherhood.  

 

Are you really that clueless?

[catman20]

Just now, smotherb said:

 

Me no clue? Can you actually recall what you posted?

This started when brewsterbudgen said, “It would be pretty irresponsible to walk away.  If you are the father a DNA test should prove it . . . ”

YOU said, “ . . . or be responsible and mess the rest of your life up. so many of these girls try to trap a man for there own means, if it was a one night stand move on if its a loving relationship try to work it out.”

So, if the DNA shows it’s your child, you don’t want to mess up the rest of your life by being responsible and taking care of the child? And, you rationalize if it is a one-night-stand the child somehow doesn’t count.

Then YOU said, “ . . . we are all entailed to our own options you have yours and i  have mine. i  am not a victim to be trapped by some hooker, if you are crack on, enjoy . . . ”

Well, I suppose to some, owning up to your personal responsibilities and obligations is an option. But, how are you being trapped by a hooker if the DNA proves it’s your child?

Did she trick you into having sex without a condom?

Now, you are inferring someone who is married and/or doesn’t live in Thailand would have no knowledge about fathering a child or any opinion about the social and financial obligations incurred by fatherhood.  

 

 

Are you really that clueless?

 

im board with this !.get a life. 

[smotherb]

Just now, catman20 said:

im board with this !.get a life. 

Well certainly, I'll accept your surrender.

[J1li1White]

Dear all 

Thks for your replies 

I'm not a troll I was on travel I'll revert at the soonest 

Brgds 

[catman20]

10 hours ago, smotherb said:

Well certainly, I'll accept your surrender.

your one sad man!

[smotherb]

3 hours ago, catman20 said:

your one sad man!

You are the one who cannot even defend your own statements--remember, you are the one who said you wouldn't want to ruin the rest of your life by being responsible and supporting your kid, you are the one who says a baby conceived in short-time is of no consequence,  and you are the one who thinks a hooker trapped you even when the DNA shows its your child.  That, my dear feline person, is being a sad man, no scratch that, it's not being a man at all, just sad..

[mercman24]

why irresponsible, this is thailand no western values here, every girl i know has had a kid by a thai male, and not a single one is cared for by the thai man, they run a mile,or hadn't you noticed.

[J1li1White]

The frog or the troll is back. 

 

First of all many thanks for all your replies very helpful at all,  even sarcastic one even negative one even these which are full of an angriness...

 

 So back to My case :

- why I want to "escape"  : why she had not tell me before? Already 11 months she hadn't speak together.  Why she sends her friends to me in order to Let me know about it?(one month after birth ) 

 

-according to your advises I've spoke with her and asked if I can help her in any way  including monthly withdrawal. She declined.she say she only want me to go to prison. She have open the case at police and she want me to jail. She don't want anything else from me she says. 

 

What can I do? 

 

Thks & Rgds

Edited February 14, 2017 by J1li1White

[brewsterbudgen]

The frog or the troll is back. 
 
First of all many thanks for all your replies very helpful at all,  even sarcastic one even negative one even these which are full of an angriness...
 
 So back to My case :
- why I want to "escape"  : why she had not tell me before? Already 11 months she hadn't speak together.  Why she sends her friends to me in order to Let me know about it?(one month after birth ) 
 
-according to your advises I've spoke with her and asked if I can help her in any way  including monthly withdrawal. She declined.she say she only want me to go to prison. She have open the case at police and she want me to jail. She don't want anything else from me she says. 
 
What can I do? 
 
Thks & Rgds

Go to prison for what? She's talking nonsense. You have no evidence that you are the father. If you're in Thailand I would get a DNA test done for your own piece of mind. If you're not in Thailand I would most likely do nothing.

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[J1li1White]

I'm in Thailand yes just arrived today for work  but not at the same place she is staying. And so busy with my new job

I don't know she say she went to police station to "แจงความ"(notice) about the case. 

I believe the baby is coming from my sperm as she is so crazy and particular that I think nobody touch her for a while after we broke up...

So I can believe it is from my production. 

So I say to her : don't need to make ADN tests. I will assume tell me the way I have to help you how you want to proceed she told me "<deleted> off " 

 

The difficulty Is that since she hate me so much I can't imagine peaceful future  

 

[J1li1White]

I'm in Thailand yes just arrived today for work  but not at the same place she is staying. And so busy with my new job

I don't know she say she went to police station to "แจงความ"(notice) about the case. 

I believe the baby is coming from my sperm as she is so crazy and particular that I think nobody touch her for a while after we broke up...

So I can believe it is from my production. 

So I say to her : don't need to make ADN tests. I will assume tell me the way I have to help you how you want to proceed she told me "<deleted> off " 

 

The difficulty Is that since she hate me so much I can't imagine peaceful future  

 

[deepinlaos]

11 hours ago, J1li1White said:

I'm in Thailand yes just arrived today for work  but not at the same place she is staying. And so busy with my new job

I don't know she say she went to police station to "แจงความ"(notice) about the case. 

I believe the baby is coming from my sperm as she is so crazy and particular that I think nobody touch her for a while after we broke up...

So I can believe it is from my production. 

So I say to her : don't need to make ADN tests. I will assume tell me the way I have to help you how you want to proceed she told me "<deleted> off " 

 

The difficulty Is that since she hate me so much I can't imagine peaceful future  

 

 

put as much distance between yourself & her as u can

[Stevemercer]

Even if you are the father, you have not committed a crime or criminal offence under Thai law. You therefore cannot and will not be arrested or charged with an offense.

 

The only legal action she can take is to sue you (under civil law procedures) and try and get a court order that you pay maintenance. She will have to pay her own lawyer and I doubt she would be organised or disciplined enough to pursue such a case.

 

If she really hates you, I would be more worried about her paying someone to hurt you. You must cut off contact with her and make sure she does not have your address or contact details. If you disappear from her life there is a good chance she will move on an forget about you after a year or so. If you keep in contact, she will not forget, she will continue to fixate on you, and will do something that you will both live to regret.

[J1li1White]

First I would like to thank you all one more time for your availability and support. 

 

I have told her one more time that I can help I'm ready to do what I have to but she is still not willing to. So I don't understand what she is expecting from the police or even the court. 

 

She does not know where I'm staying I don't think she can manage to find me and do what she's dreaming to... 

 

Anyway I will follow your advices 

 

Thks n rgds