Jonathan Fairfield Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Two men arrested after Canadian tourist attacked with machete Image: ThaiRath Police have arrested two Thai men who attacked a Canadian tourist with a machete. Philip Robert Sullivan, 68, was attacked after he left a restaurant near Chumphon train station with his girlfriend King Kukaew just after 2am last Wednesday. The incident was captured on CCTV. Police say the two suspects, identified as Yutthana Chumworathaye and Sarawut Katerat, followed the couple in a pickup truck. Yutthana then got out of the vehicle and attempted to snatch the one baht gold necklace Ms King was wearing around her neck. Mr Sullivan then tried to intervene but was attacked with a machete, which resulted in serious wounds to his arm and neck. Yutthana then fled empty handed in the pick up which was being driven by Sarawut. Mr Sullivan was rushed to the Ket Udom Sak Hospital in Chumphon where he remains in a serious but stable condition. Ms King also required hospital treatment for severe bruising to her neck. Police said the men had been released from prison just three months ago and admitted to carrying out at least four other similar robberies this year. Source: Thairath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-02-21
SoilSpoil Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Maybe not such a bad idea to let tourists visit army bases. They way things are going here, these might be the only places where tourists can feel safe
fruitman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Never ever let these animals out of jail again please....
rkidlad Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Very scary. Hope the Canadian is okay. I see one of the criminals admitted to other crimes after his prison realise. Why wouldn't he?
ratcatcher Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 The weapon being held by one of the two suspects (assailants) is, I believe, more like one of those Thai made "Samurai swords" available at Thai night markets nationwide. A machete is a larger, heavier tool/weapon as shown here: https://www.google.co.th/search?q=machete&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=638&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipubTVqqHSAhVKp48KHVK8D74Q_AUIBigB I hope Mr Sullivan and his partner Ms King recover fast and also hope the next time these two animals, now in custody, appear in court, they are given harsher sentences than before. Rotten b astards.
nakhonandy Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Tourist money down, contrary to TAT, crime goes up.
tropo Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 They were just playing with the machete. Had it been a real attack the Canadian would have been dead in seconds.
ratcatcher Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, tropo said: They were just playing with the machete. Had it been a real attack the Canadian would have been dead in seconds. Had it been a real machete,he would possibly be dead, but it wasn't and he isn't..
tropo Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: Had it been a real machete,he would possibly be dead, but it wasn't and he isn't.. It doesn't matter what you want to call the weapons they used. If they have been serious about killing him, they could have managed quite well with what they had. The Canadian would have been smart to hand over the gold necklace and wish them well. What was he thinking? How stupid was that?- an unarmed 68-year-old gent going after 2 knife/blade wielding Thais.
anon4546543 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Message to most people. Do not flaunt your wealth. Especially trinkets of gold and other small volume but high wealth objects. Wear bling. You can hand that over quite easily to low life criminals who probably don't know the difference
chickenslegs Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, tropo said: It doesn't matter what you want to call the weapons they used. If they have been serious about killing him, they could have managed quite well with what they had. The Canadian would have been smart to hand over the gold necklace and wish them well. What was he thinking? How stupid was that?- an unarmed 68-year-old gent going after 2 knife/blade wielding Thais. In summary... The two thieves could have killed him but, quite reasonably, only used the minimum force necessary to achieve their aim. However, the Canadian was foolish to inflame the situation by coming to the aid of his girlfriend, causing the escalation of an otherwise amicable transaction. Damn Canadians - always causing trouble!
mercman24 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 all thais i know wear gold , they never seem to get attacked, why should not a farang. wear gold, not sure if Ms King is thai or not. these low lifes need harsh sentences, its the law that needs shaking up. and they have already got prison form, how about 3 strikes and your out for starters
darksidedog Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) I once saw a Thai girl pulled off her moving bike by two scumbags trying to steal her gold necklace. They failed, but she broke her neck when she hit the ground. I got the Bike number including the Thai letters and gave them to the police. Sadly, I don't know if they caught the lowlifes or not. Street theft of gold is becoming something of an epidemic though, so I hope the Thai Courts will start to dish out some EXTREMELY punitive penalties to try to persuade people to stop it. Especially when people are hospitalised as a result of their actions. You should not end up in hospital or crippled from jewellery worth a pittance in the bigger picture. Edited February 21, 2017 by darksidedog
anon4546543 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Yeah sure, everyone should wear gold and diamonds to ones heart content. And you should not be attacked for it. But get real, there are scumbags throughout the world and these lowlife crims don't give a rats whether you are falung or not. Do not flaunt your wealth unless you are in a highly protected area. Message to tourists, leave the valuables at home and wear bling. Message to expats and others, the police probably won't be able to help you if you are attacked by ratbags after your showings of wealth and it is stolen and you are injured or killed. Pretend you are in the worst parts of the Bronx. Anyway, what does it do for you.
ocddave Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I think the only answer is to get your own weapon, make sure you bring a gun to a knife fight though, then the ending to this story would have been poetic justice.
anon4546543 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 ocddave, do that and you will spend a long time in Bangkok Hilton. Get real. You are in Thailand, not Oklahama
darksidedog Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, ocddave said: I think the only answer is to get your own weapon, make sure you bring a gun to a knife fight though, then the ending to this story would have been poetic justice. I fail to see how a Canadian being charged with two murders would be poetic justice. Did you think that comment through? Encouraging people to go about their lives "tooled up" is really not intelligent.
ocddave Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, darksidedog said: I fail to see how a Canadian being charged with two murders would be poetic justice. Did you think that comment through? Encouraging people to go about their lives "tooled up" is really not intelligent. Since when is protecting yourself murder?!
anon4546543 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 In Thailand, killing a thief is murder.
darksidedog Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, ocddave said: Since when is protecting yourself murder?! This is Thailand. You shoot two people you ARE going to be charged, you are going to jail. And bail will be very difficult and very expensive. Maybe, if you are real lucky you will get a manslaughter conviction and only do 10 years. After waitying in jail 2-3 years for your trial to finish. Self defense might work in England or America, but not here. Bear in mind, you can NOT carry a gun. Even if licensed, it must be kept under lock and key, in a safe or a gun club. This is not Rambo country.
anon4546543 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I suspect that killing anyone in the US is justifiable homicide. The state police make a habit of it and account for part of the US acclaim to fame, more murders committed than anywhere else on the planet, Maybe it's time to holster that peacemaker son.
darksidedog Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, spiderorchid said: In Thailand, killing a thief is murder. Thank you Spiderorchid. Someone knows the rules here, even if RamboDave thinks it's the Wild West.
katana Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Obligatory crime re-enactment by the Thai attackers today in front of the press (starts @30s): Edited February 21, 2017 by katana
ocddave Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 1 minute ago, darksidedog said: Thank you Spiderorchid. Someone knows the rules here, even if RamboDave thinks it's the Wild West. I guess the alternative is being a victim, and sitting in a hospital with machete wounds...or better yet, a morgue. I would rather live to tell the story, then to just become another statistic, "foreigner killed again".....forgotten tomorrow.
darksidedog Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ocddave said: I guess the alternative is being a victim, and sitting in a hospital with machete wounds...or better yet, a morgue. I would rather live to tell the story, then to just become another statistic, "foreigner killed again".....forgotten tomorrow. You can live to tell the story in a Thai jail then. Don't get me wrong. I understand your sentiment, but this is Thailand and it is just not going to go down well in court. Did you read the earlier post? Killing a thief here is Murder. End of story. No ifs, buts and maybes. You WILL go to jail. And it will be Murder. Thais do not like a body count, regardless of the circumstances. You should understand this quickly, as if you practice what you preach, you WILL be forgotten as you rot in the jail. I hope this has clued you up to reality and this is the end of the conversation. If you don't believe me or the previous poster, go ask some lawyers, who will tell you how mistaken your theory is. Edited February 21, 2017 by darksidedog
anon4546543 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 No need to be a victim. Do not display wealth, sort of like carrying a handful of 1000 bt notes for everyone to see. Scumbags will be attracted. Especially with an old age pensioner to protect. Your solution is to kill and go to jail for a very long time. You may feel morally correct, but a few days in the Hilton will probably wake you up.
ocddave Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, darksidedog said: You can live to tell the story in a Thai jail then. Don't get me wrong. I understand your sentiment, but this is Thailand and it is just not going to go down well in court. Did you read the earlier post? Killing a thief here is Murder. End of story. No ifs, buts and maybes. You WILL go to jail. And it will be Murder. Thais do not like a body count, regardless of the circumstances. You should understand this quickly, as if you practice what you preach, you WILL be forgotten as you rot in the jail. I have a nasty attitude towards criminals, so basically if this happened to me, justice would be served one way or the other.....I don't care if takes me 20 years to recover and get back on my feet, they would both be dead. So when I look at it that way, what difference does it make, really? And are there no self-defense outcomes allowed in Thailand? I find that hard to believe, so two guys can swing a machete at me, but I am not allowed to kill them in the ensuing brawl?
Rhys Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, ocddave said: I have a nasty attitude towards criminals, so basically if this happened to me, justice would be served one way or the other.....I don't care if takes me 20 years to recover and get back on my feet, they would both be dead. So when I look at it that way, what difference does it make, really? And are there no self-defense outcomes allowed in Thailand? I find that hard to believe, so two guys can swing a machete at me, but I am not allowed to kill them in the ensuing brawl? no need to kill....disable them in your personal way...
anon4546543 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 You have a nasty attitude for wanting to experience life in a Thai prison.
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