Hamas rejects Netanyahu's proposal to send international forces to Gaza

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Hamas rejects Netanyahu's proposal to send international forces to Gaza

Source: Xinhua

 

GAZA, Feb. 27 (Xinhua) -- Islamic Hamas movement rejected on Sunday Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's proposal to send international forces to the Gaza Strip, the coastal enclave that Hamas has been ruling since 2007.

 

Abdulatif al-Qanou, Hamas spokesman in Gaza said in an emailed press statement that sending international forces to the Gaza Strip "is a dangerous matter and it is totally rejected."

 

Earlier Sunday, the Israeli media reported that Netanyahu made the proposal in a meeting he held with the Australian Foreign Minister, Julie Bishop in Jerusalem.

 

Netanyahu suggested that the Israeli Army must take control of the West Bank, and, to examine security alternatives in Gaza, having international forces monitor the territory "and deal with the terrorism issues."

 

Full story: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-02/27/c_136086604.htm

 

-- Xinhua 2017-02-27

[Kiwiken]

Is this correct is BN suggesting full Israeli Military control of the west Bank. Is this not then annexation?

[whatawonderfulday]

The sooner Israel returns land stolen from the Palestinians, the better it would be for that area. Unfortunately given the Jewish influence within the Democrat and Republican parties of the US, the US will always invoke their VETO at the UN regarding Israel complying with UN resolutions. Let's hope the world order will change in the next 50 years, maybe sooner with the Trump loonies in power.

 

 

Edited February 27, 2017 by whatawonderfulday

[Srikcir]

I wonder if Trump will offer the West Bank in the same deal for Crimea to Russia - 50 to 100 year lease to Israel?

No international force necessary.

[Morch]

3 hours ago, Kiwiken said:

Is this correct is BN suggesting full Israeli Military control of the west Bank. Is this not then annexation?

 

Xinhua is not the best of sources on these issues. For example, the meeting referred to took place in Australia, rather than Jerusalem.

 

There were several versions of what exactly was said at the meeting. Apparently, Netanyahu did raise the idea (if not enthusiastically) of international military presence in the Gaza Strip. As far as I understand, this was more off-the-cuff rather than a well thought out plan. Don't think anything of the sort was discussed on the Israeli cabinet prior to his visit.

 

With regard to the West Bank, what he actually said (a bit clearer there) is that Israel will not relinquish full security control in the West Bank to the Palestinians. Most versions of peace agreements include such elements, in varying degrees. So the answer to your question is probably no.

 

IMO, the first wasn't a real proposal and the second wasn't out of line with previous positions. Of course, had it been on a less convenient venue, he would probably have taken a different tone.

[ilostmypassword]

3 hours ago, whatawonderfulday said:

The sooner Israel returns land stolen from the Palestinians, the better it would be for that area. Unfortunately given the Jewish influence within the Democrat and Republican parties of the US, the US will always invoke their VETO at the UN regarding Israel complying with UN resolutions. Let's hope the world order will change in the next 50 years, maybe sooner with the Trump loonies in power.

 

 

This kind of comment veers dangerously close it antisemitism.  Actually, the Evangelicals in USA who number about 80 million are on the whole far more enthusiastic and uncritical backers of Israel than the American Jewish community. Keep in mind that Jesus' return depends on Jewish control of the biblical land of Israel.

[JingerBen]

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

I wonder if Trump will offer the West Bank in the same deal for Crimea to Russia - 50 to 100 year lease to Israel?

No international force necessary.

There is no telling what Trump might do - the man is totally unpredictable.

Israel has itself created a terrible situation which it is incapable of solving. That is why it has always been the case that the United States must pretty much dictate a solution, but it is unable to do so, paralyzed as it is by the heavy influence of Israel and America's own apologists and lobbyists.

So, in effect, the world just goes around and around on this terrible problem, never doing anything decisive. The macabre dance of Israel and the United States we've had for decades yields today's de facto reality of Israel as nothing more but nothing less than a protected American colony in the Middle East, one in which all kinds of international norms and laws are completely suspended, one where millions live with no rights and no citizenship. But, after all, colonies have never been places where the rule of law and human rights prevail.

[Morch]

@JingerBen

 

The situation was not solely created by Israel, nor is it solely maintained by Israel. There's another side, namely the Palestinians - and it is an undeniable fact that they contributed to their current and ongoing predicament. Ignoring such facts, and favoring drivel like the post above is not contributing an iota to the conflict's resolution.

[JingerBen]

10 minutes ago, Morch said:

@JingerBen

 

The situation was not solely created by Israel, nor is it solely maintained by Israel. There's another side, namely the Palestinians - and it is an undeniable fact that they contributed to their current and ongoing predicament. Ignoring such facts, and favoring drivel like the post above is not contributing an iota to the conflict's resolution.

Blaming the Palestinians is a familiar propaganda ploy.

Israel stands condemned by the whole world.

What country supports the occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza?

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.  

[Jingthing]

The sooner Israel returns land stolen from the Palestinians, the better it would be for that area. Unfortunately given the Jewish influence within the Democrat and Republican parties of the US, the US will always invoke their VETO at the UN regarding Israel complying with UN resolutions. Let's hope the world order will change in the next 50 years, maybe sooner with the Trump loonies in power.
 
 

The topic is about Gaza. Gaza was already returned to the Palestinians and is controlled by Hamas.

[Jingthing]

I wonder if Trump will offer the West Bank in the same deal for Crimea to Russia - 50 to 100 year lease to Israel?
No international force necessary.

That is absurd. There is no connection.

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, JingerBen said:

Blaming the Palestinians is a familiar propaganda ploy.

Israel stands condemned by the whole world.

What country supports the occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza?

 

I did not blame the Palestinians, that you twisting my words. All I said was that they contributed their fair share to this conflict. If you think that is not a factual comment, go for it...explain how.

 

As you'll probably recall from numerous topics, I'm not among those supportive of Israel's ongoing occupation of the West Bank. That has little to do with acknowledging both sides accountability for the current state of things.

 

Your question has nothing to do with what I posted. In the same vain, most countries do not offer unconditional support for the Palestinian side. As for the Gaza Strip blockade - those not memory impaired will know that it is maintained by Egypt as well.

[Morch]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The topic is about Gaza. Gaza was already returned to the Palestinians and is controlled by Hamas.

 

This topic is about nothing, and is nothing but a fresh opportunity to re-hash all the usual posts. There was no "proposal" as such.

Edited February 27, 2017 by Morch

[Dumbastheycome]

The  thot plickens  I see !  Oy   vay!

[Srikcir]

35 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That is absurd. There is no connection.

Trump being absurd or what some call "creative" will be the connection.

[bangkok101]

2 hours ago, JingerBen said:

There is no telling what Trump might do - the man is totally unpredictable.

Israel has itself created a terrible situation which it is incapable of solving. That is why it has always been the case that the United States must pretty much dictate a solution, but it is unable to do so, paralyzed as it is by the heavy influence of Israel and America's own apologists and lobbyists.

So, in effect, the world just goes around and around on this terrible problem, never doing anything decisive. The macabre dance of Israel and the United States we've had for decades yields today's de facto reality of Israel as nothing more but nothing less than a protected American colony in the Middle East, one in which all kinds of international norms and laws are completely suspended, one where millions live with no rights and no citizenship. But, after all, colonies have never been places where the rule of law and human rights prevail.

unpredictable is a good trait, keep the buffoons guessing, good strategy.

[bangkok101]

nuke em all and start fresh!

[Jingthing]

nuke em all and start fresh!

Provocative.

[Stargeezr]

Hamas is just another islamic, terrorist organization. They will never agree to much of anything that Israel proposes. It would be good to have a UN force in Gaza to make sure that Hamas is not getting ready for more attacks on Israel.

Geezer.