Pdaz Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 21 hours ago, simple1 said: Think you will find the majority who have been rejected as genuine refugees and being offered cash to return to their home countries on their own free will are Iranian, as Iran has rejected receiving deported asylum seekers. I would assume the same scenario is applicable for some other nationals. Dump em in a boat off the coast of Iran. Or push em out of a plane ( with a parachute ) in Iranian airspace then. Same scenario for other nationals who's country refuses to take responsibility. They are simply not Australia's problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, Pdaz said: Dump em in a boat off the coast of Iran. Or push em out of a plane ( with a parachute ) in Iranian airspace then. Same scenario for other nationals who's country refuses to take responsibility. They are simply not Australia's problem.. Way to go, throw the rule of law into the rubbish bin with no consequences - not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, simple1 said: Way to go, throw the rule of law into the rubbish bin with no consequences - not Why does the rule of law only apply to some ? I have to have a passport and have to complete immigration procedures - Yet thousands attempt to cross borders and enter countries illegally. Deliberately destroying their documents so they cannot be repatriated. Some countries refuse to accept the return of their nationals - Then other countries are forced to accept them and pay for they upkeep. Thousands of people apply for residency in US, Canada, Australia and the UK etc each year. They fill out the paperwork, provide references and proof of their income and qualifications.. Then wait patiently for approval.. Others pay illegal people smugglers to circumvent the correct procedure and attempt to enter illegally. Then use the countries free legal aid and human rights charters to remain - illegally. I'm happy to follow the rules.. I just want the rest to follow them too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, Pdaz said: Why does the rule of law only apply to some ? I have to have a passport and have to complete immigration procedures - Yet thousands attempt to cross borders and enter countries illegally. Deliberately destroying their documents so they cannot be repatriated. Some countries refuse to accept the return of their nationals - Then other countries are forced to accept them and pay for they upkeep. Thousands of people apply for residency in US, Canada, Australia and the UK etc each year. They fill out the paperwork, provide references and proof of their income and qualifications.. Then wait patiently for approval.. Others pay illegal people smugglers to circumvent the correct procedure and attempt to enter illegally. Then use the countries free legal aid and human rights charters to remain - illegally. I'm happy to follow the rules.. I just want the rest to follow them too.. You are not an asylum seeker so a number of your comments are irrelevant. To repeat it is not constructive for Australia to act in contradiction to international legal norms / conventions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 36 minutes ago, simple1 said: You are not an asylum seeker so a number of your comments are irrelevant. To repeat it is not constructive for Australia to act in contradiction to international legal norms / conventions. I've been an immigrant twice in my life ( the legal type ) so I think my comments are relevant and based on experience.. People who seek to break the law, evade regulation and twist conventions to their own benefit through deception are the ones who should be considered irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Pdaz said: I've been an immigrant twice in my life ( the legal type ) so I think my comments are relevant and based on experience.. People who seek to break the law, evade regulation and twist conventions to their own benefit through deception are the ones who should be considered irrelevant. Again you are not seeking refugee status, so your immigration experience is irrelevant with regard to this topic.. Many of your posts regards 'migrants' are based upon right wing propaganda / attitudes such as your post above regards returning Iranians to which I responded; so one last time... It is not constructive for Australia to act in contradiction to international legal norms / conventions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 The topic is about detained asylum seekers, stop trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 On 3/3/2017 at 0:56 PM, simple1 said: It is alleged each offshore detainee costs the Oz tax payer $400k p.a., the highest detention costs in the world. As mentioned above it would be a lot more cost effective for an offshore detainee to accept the package, rather than keeping them in detention whilst going though efforts to resettle them in a third party country or waiting whilst the government tries to negotiate to return nationals with their home country government e.g. Iran. The issue of returning offshore detainees to their home country has been raised and responded to repeatedly in a number of topics concerning offshore detention in Australia. it is also a fact that asylum seekers arriving by air then claiming refugee status, plus illegals who overstay their visa far exceeds the total number of 'boat people' over time. Looks like Singapore has more educated brains in the government. They need not spend 25,000 or 400k... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, trogers said: Looks like Singapore has more educated brains in the government. They need not spend 25,000 or 400k... Your bigot based opinions regards refugees in general have been made very clear by you on numerous occasions, including extremely ugly commentary. Surprised you held back... Edited March 4, 2017 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, simple1 said: Your opinions regards refugees in general have been made very clear by you on numerous occasions, including extremely ugly commentary. Surprised you held back... Is part of that 25,000 from your pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, trogers said: Don't contact me. Edited March 4, 2017 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Those in favor of Economic Refuges have usually not done very well financially ,and don't care how much Oz Folks money Lovies give away.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I don't see anything wrong with it: a modest incentive payment to help ease back into life in the home country. The cost of it is a tiny fraction of the Mega $$$ required to keep open the camps. It's as much of a win-win as could be expected. Many of these people have been manipulated by evil people smugglers and the evil police/military in Indonesia; at least they can go home with a chance to rebuild their lives. Good luck to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I'd love to give Sir Les or Crocodile Dundee reply to that .?Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Hahahahahah stupid government just deny them asylum and send them home... I'm sure first class tickets were included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 18 hours ago, trogers said: Looks like Singapore has more educated brains in the government. They need not spend 25,000 or 400k... How many times would Singapore fit into Oz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, evadgib said: How many times would Singapore fit into Oz? 18 hours ago, trogers said: Looks like Singapore has more educated brains in the government. They need not spend 25,000 or 400k... That's why they have to be smarter to survive. When you have too much, you become less fit and firm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 An inflammatory post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) Who thinks they will be back on the next boat. Edited March 5, 2017 by lovelomsak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, lovelomsak said: Who thinks they be back on the next boat. ☝ X 100 friends and relatives... Edited March 5, 2017 by trogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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