webfact Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Four arrested in fake education degrees scam By Angsuma Sridokkham The Nation BANGKOK: -- FOUR SUSPECTS have been arrested for allegedly issuing fake educational degrees to paying customers who will also face legal action. Metropolitan Police commissioner Lt-General Sanit Mahathavorn said yesterday that buyers of the fake degrees would face the same penalty as the sellers – a jail term, a fine, or both. “The jail term ranges from six months to five years, while the fine ranges from Bt1,000 to Bt50,000,” he said. Kittiwat Chanwimonwat, 23, and Jutawadee Sirisuksawat, 21, were arrested in Surin province with fake degrees and related equipment. Weerapon Kamsaeng, 25, and Lalida Kaewboonruang, 22, were nabbed in Ubon Ratchathani province with forgery tools. “We found that they have opened Facebook pages to attract customers in violation of laws,” Sanit said. Lalida said she had sold educational certificates for Bt3,500 for Mathayom 3-level up to bachelor degrees at top universities for Bt9,800 apiece. The fake degrees were usually used for job applications within the |private sector where authenticity of documents are rarely checked. Kittiwat told police that he had been in this illegal business for more than two years, attracting between 10 and 20 customers each month. “Most customers want certificates for completion of Mathayom 3 or Mathayom 6,” he said. He said he had warned customers the degrees were forged and they risked being caught lying. All four suspects have been charged with forging official documents. They were sent to Bangkok’s Don Muang Police Station for further action. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30311832 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-04-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I bet there's a lot of nervous farang english teachers at this time ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 4 down and how many to go. I got my 2 out of a cornflakes packet back in the days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maewang99 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, steven100 said: I bet there's a lot of nervous farang english teachers at this time ...... not the farlang..... teachers with genuine Ed backgrounds create "staff issues" and usually all but instantly get run out... as often as not in tears.... for "sneaking smokes on campus" or whatever.... that is, even if they ever can be found in Thailand.... so..... the very best.... and almost just as cheap sources of proxy staff.... so civil service can have lighter schedules.. sometimes entire days off.... for the entire school year.... which is a very big thing.... do not discount this at all... not at all.... might be harder to find and get processed for a "teachers license"..... to show skeptical or complaining parents (skeptical or complaining for "some" reason).... as well as what makes collecting Tea Money for the proxy staff... Thai and farlang.... easier to convince parents of... "native English speakers".... and the farlang group doesn't ever need civil service status..... just some visa renewals and other paperwork. Edited April 10, 2017 by maewang99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: He said he had warned customers the degrees were forged and they risked being caught lying. Wow, a fake degree with a fine-print warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 24 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: I got my 2 out of a cornflakes packet back in the days. Hope one of them is an MBA from Kelloggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, maewang99 said: not just the farlang..... the whole system. they need fake teachers..... real ones create staff issues and usually all but instantly get run out... often in tears, if female.... for sneaking smokes on campus or ****something**** they can find... but much more so.... the very best.... and almost just as cheap.... sources of proxy staff... so civil service can have lighter schedules.. sometimes entire days off.... might be harder to get processed for a "teachers license".... to show any skeptical or complaining parents.... for some reason.... as well as what makes collecting Tea Money for the proxy staff... Thai and farlang easier to convince parents of... "native English speakers".... and the farlang group doesn't ever need civil service status..... just some visa renewals and other paperwork. Is it possible to have this in comprehensible English please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I bet there's a lot of nervous farang english teachers at this time ...... Why?I don't think any "Farang Teachers" would have any need for a Thai degree certificate, fake or real, let alone a Matayom certificate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Dishonesty in Thailand What ever next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 hours ago, webfact said: “Most customers want certificates for completion of Mathayom 3 or Mathayom 6,” he said. It's not the foreigners driving demand then, which we were told recently was the case with fake brand name stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Fake degrees, they cannot be serious, Thais would never do such a thing. I am shocked that this can happen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 52 minutes ago, onemorechang said: Dishonesty in Thailand What ever next Dishonesty in Thailand? Nay, Nay and thrice Nay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said: 4 down and how many to go. I got my 2 out of a cornflakes packet back in the days. Probably required more effort than a real Thai degree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sphere said: Hope one of them is an MBA from Kelloggs. Masters in Kellognometry Edited April 10, 2017 by 4MyEgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGS1244 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, maewang99 said: not the farlang..... teachers with genuine Ed backgrounds create "staff issues" and usually all but instantly get run out... as often as not in tears.... for "sneaking smokes on campus" or whatever.... that is, even if they ever can be found in Thailand.... so..... the very best.... and almost just as cheap sources of proxy staff.... so civil service can have lighter schedules.. sometimes entire days off.... for the entire school year.... which is a very big thing.... do not discount this at all... not at all.... might be harder to find and get processed for a "teachers license"..... to show skeptical or complaining parents (skeptical or complaining for "some" reason).... as well as what makes collecting Tea Money for the proxy staff... Thai and farlang.... easier to convince parents of... "native English speakers".... and the farlang group doesn't ever need civil service status..... just some visa renewals and other paperwork. Is this a new language or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Actually, in the Western world they're called 'novelty degrees'. There's a disclaimer saying that the degrees are for novelty purposes only, and if you use them to try and obtain employment, you may be prosecuted by law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 sold educational certificates for Bt3,500 for Mathayom 3In the U.K is that the 11 plus exam? If you get top marks you have a chance of getting a scholarship to a fancy grammer school.Obviously I didn't and ended up in a comprehensive where I comprehended nothing. Still have some great memories of that school and if I'd gone to grammer school I could be gay now and be shacked up with a man. So there are some downsides of buying a passed with excellence 11 plus certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Is this a new language or what?From this and a few other posts I have rather gathered he has something of a bee in his bonnet about NES teaching here.Possibly he was unable to get a job. Cannot for the life of me imagine why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: 4 down and how many to go. I got my 2 out of a cornflakes packet back in the days. A couple of years ago, out of curiosity I called one of the fake degree places I got from some junk email in my inbox here in the USA. Reading the fine print and walking through what the "company" actually did, and talking with an agent, it was simple. They make a real looking College Diploma, and for extra fees would even make up transcripts. They apparently were not doing anything too illegal, because they were NOT representing you. You the buyer would be the one saying "yes, I have these degrees and yes I took these courses" when you present them to a potential employer or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj916 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, Wilsonandson said: In the U.K is that the 11 plus exam? If you get top marks you have a chance of getting a scholarship to a fancy grammer school. Obviously I didn't and ended up in a comprehensive where I comprehended nothing. Still have some great memories of that school and if I'd gone to grammer school I could be gay now and be shacked up with a man. So there are some downsides of buying a passed with excellence 11 plus certificate. Bit ironic you spelt 'grammar' wrong. Do you teach English by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Bit ironic you spelt 'grammar' wrong. Do you teach English by any chance?Well I did say I went to comprehensive school.As for spelling mistakes. The current device I'm using doesn't have an automatic spell checker. Because the gramm e r nazis that go on and on do. I have to admit that typing on to a tiny keypad with my fat fingers is a problem enough.Just a thought. Are you a teacher? Because this is not your classroom its a public expat forum. How can you say it politely you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 if its good for the president of the united states it should be good for english teachers too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Hmmmmmm, there maybe a zillion bums burping out there if this lot kept records.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj916 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Wilsonandson said: Well I did say I went to comprehensive school. As for spelling mistakes. The current device I'm using doesn't have an automatic spell checker. Because the gramm e r nazis that go on and on do. I have to admit that typing on to a tiny keypad with my fat fingers is a problem enough. Just a thought. Are you a teacher? Because this is not your classroom its a public expat forum. How can you say it politely you know. Wow. It went straight over your head didn't it. I would read again your last sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Wow. It went straight over your head didn't it. I would read again your last sentence.Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Wilsonandson said: In the U.K is that the 11 plus exam? If you get top marks you have a chance of getting a scholarship to a fancy grammer school. Obviously I didn't and ended up in a comprehensive where I comprehended nothing. Still have some great memories of that school and if I'd gone to grammer school I could be gay now and be shacked up with a man. So there are some downsides of buying a passed with excellence 11 plus certificate. You seem to be mixing up Grammar schools with Public schools ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Education Department got caught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Sphere said: Hope one of them is an MBA from Kelloggs. Then it would be quite acceptable I think. http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 cant see much difference between quality of fake degree holders vs real degree holders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 6 hours ago, steven100 said: I bet there's a lot of nervous farang english teachers at this time ...... They should be the first to be sent to prison...such incompetent dead beats posing as educators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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