webfact Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Outrage after Facebook Live murder of baby By THE NATION Heartbroken family members were in tears yesterday as they retrieved the bodies of a father and his baby daughter for funeral ceremonies. The man’s murder of the baby was broadcast on Facebook Live. BANGKOK: -- Facebook has removed a horrific video clip that showed a man putting a noose around his 11-month-old baby daughter’s neck and hanging her from the roof of an abandoned building in Phuket, following an uproar. "This is an appalling incident and our hearts go out to the family of the victim. There is absolutely no place for content of this kind on Facebook and it has now been removed," Facebook spokesperson said in an official statement yesterday. Earlier in the day, the Public Health Ministry had urged the online giant to remove the video from the Internet. The father committed suicide after the killing, but that act was not included in the Facebook Live broadcast. Heartbroken family members were in tears yesterday as they retrieved the bodies of the man and his baby daughter for funeral ceremonies. The clip, which lasted more than four minutes, shocked the public and left the family distraught. Ministry spokesman Dr Taweesin Visanuyothin, who also heads the Somdet Chaopraya Institute of Psychiatry, said earlier in the day that Facebook had to remove the clip immediately as it could cause depression and could prompt copycat suicides. “If his family members have no access to his Facebook account, Facebook must take action. It’s Facebook’s responsibility,” he said. He said he expected that the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission would raise the issue with Facebook and encourage it to introduce features that would help to prevent a repeat of such incidents. “In the United States there are monitoring programmes to link suicidal people to help hotlines,” he said. “We should have such features in Thailand too.” The Phuket tragedy involved a 21-year-old man who was apparently angry over his wife leaving him. The father, whose name was withheld in accordance with the law, broadcast the tragic incident at about 5.45pm on Monday. The video remained online for approximately 24 hours. The Facebook Live clip went viral and was drawn to the attention of the mother who rushed to seek help from police. In the clip, the man was seen sitting with the baby girl on the rooftop of the multi-storey deserted building. He was seen looping plastic ties together and placing a noose around the neck of the infant, who is wearing only a diaper. He then dropped her down from the edge of the rooftop holding onto the plastic ties. The baby is heard crying briefly before her father pulled her up and untied the knot. She is then heard crying briefly. The mother said she had quarrelled with her husband because he suspected she had a relationship with another man. The woman said she left their house after he checked her phone and threatened to kill her at about 3am on Monday. “I accompanied my younger sister when she collected her things from his home and tried to settle the issue with him. But he said he needed to run some errands and took his daughter with him,” said a male relative. The relative said he had no idea what was going on until he saw the clip on Facebook. The 21-year-old mother went to Thalang Police Station at about 6.30pm after learning about the clip. Police searched the area for the deserted building that was shown on the video and eventually found it near a five-star hotel at Naithon Beach in tambon Choeng Thalay of Thalang district. They found the father had hanged himself from a beam inside the building and the body of the baby girl was lying on the rooftop. Phuket Governor Norapat Plodthong said social workers would provide counselling to the baby’s mother. Facebook has previously admitted that broadcasts of murders and suicides have been an issue that it has taken steps to prevent. In reference to a previous video clip of a murder in Cleveland that was uploaded to Facebook, co-founder Mark Zuckerberg said: “We have a lot of work, and we will keep doing all we can to prevent tragedies like this from happening.” On April 16, a Cleveland man uploaded the video clip of him shooting and killing Robert Godwin Sr, a 74-year-old grandfather who was on his way home from an Easter meal with his family. The News Broadcasting Council of Thailand yesterday released a statement to condemn media outlets that broadcast the baby killing and urged TV stations to uphold ethics in their coverage. A TV station was strongly criticised on Facebook for replaying the clip of the baby’s murder. A popular Facebook page, “DramaAddict”, said although the station blurred the faces, the baby was heard crying. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30313351 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-04-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Horrific Facebook Live video finally made inaccessible Tuesday evening By The Nation BANGKOK: -- A Facebook Live video that showed a man putting a noose around his 11-month-old daughter’s neck and hanging her from the roof of an abandoned building in Phuket province finally became inaccessible on Tuesday evening. However, it was not clear whether the horrific video clip had been blocked by Facebook. Earlier in the day, the Public Health Ministry had urged the online social-media giant to remove the video from the Internet. The clip, which lasted more than four minutes, shocked the public and left the family distraught. The father who broadcast the killing of his daughter via Facebook Live committed suicide after the killing, but that act was not included in the live broadcast. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/breakingnews/30313357 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-4-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Thai man broadcasts baby daughter's murder live on Facebook By Patpicha Tanakasempipat and Panarat Thepgumpanat REUTERS Jiranuch Trirat, mother of 11-month-old daughter who was killed by her father who broadcast the murder on Facebook, stands next to a picture of her daughter at a temple in Phuket, Thailand April 25, 2017. REUTERS/Sooppharoek Teepapan BANGKOK (Reuters) - A Thai man filmed himself killing his 11-month-old daughter in two video clips posted on Facebook before committing suicide, police said on Tuesday. People could access the videos of the child's murder on her father's Facebook page for roughly 24 hours, until they were taken down around 5 p.m. in Bangkok (1000 GMT) on Tuesday, or about a day after being uploaded. "This is an appalling incident and our hearts go out to the family of the victim," a Singapore-based Facebook spokesman said in an email to Reuters. "There is absolutely no place for content of this kind on Facebook and it has now been removed." Murders, suicides and sexual assault have plagued Facebook despite making up a small percentage of videos. On Tuesday a Swedish court jailed three men for the rape of a woman that was broadcast live on Facebook. Last week, Facebook said it was reviewing how it monitored violent footage and other objectionable material after a posting of the fatal shooting of a man in Cleveland, Ohio was visible for two hours before being taken down. The harrowing footage from Thailand showed Wuttisan Wongtalay tying a rope to his daughter Natalie's neck before dropping the child, dressed in a bright pink dress, from the rooftop of a deserted building in the seaside town of Phuket. Wuttisan's suicide was not broadcast but his lifeless body was found beside his daughter, said Jullaus Suvannin, the police officer in charge of the case. "He was having paranoia about his wife leaving him and not loving him," Jullaus told Reuters. Wuttisan's wife, Jiranuch Triratana, told Reuters she had lived with him for over a year. At first the relationship had gone well, she said, but then he grew violent and sometimes hit her 5-year-old son from a previous husband. She feared that something was wrong on Tuesday when she found he had left home with Natalie, whose nickname was Beta. She set out to look for them. "I was afraid he would hurt our daughter even though he loved her," she told Reuters by phone from the funeral. VIDEO REMOVED Thailand's Ministry of Digital Economy said it contacted Facebook on Tuesday afternoon about removing the videos, after receiving a police request. "We contacted Facebook today and Facebook removed the videos," ministry spokesman Somsak Khaosuwan told Reuters, adding that the government would take no action against the company. "We will not be able to press charges against Facebook, because Facebook is the service provider and they acted according to their protocol when we sent our request. They cooperated very well." After the company faced a backlash for showing the video of the Cleveland killing, Chief Executive Officer Mark Zuckerberg said Facebook would do all it could to prevent such content in the future. Thai netizens voiced outrage about the clips of the child's killing, which were uploaded on Monday, the first at 4.50 p.m. (0950 GMT) and the second at 4.57 p.m. (0957 GMT). "This is the most evil clip I've seen in my life," said one user, Avada Teeraponkoon. "I couldn't stand it for more than one second." "How can he watch his own child stop breathing?" said another, Rujirek Polglang. "He should have just died alone." The killing was the first in Thailand known to be broadcast on the social networking site, said deputy police spokesman Kissana Phathanacharoen. "It could be influenced by behaviour from abroad, most recently in Cleveland," Kissana told Reuters. The first video had drawn 112,000 views by mid-afternoon on Tuesday, while the second video showed 258,000 views. FACEBOOK RESPONSE Facebook, the world's largest social network, has not said how long its review of internal operations might take. The California company declined to answer questions about the latest incident or make employees available for interviews. The company relies largely on reports from its 1.9 billion users to find objectionable material. Flagged items are forwarded to thousands of Facebook workers who judge whether they should be taken down. Facebook has said it is working on software to automatically flag videos that are objectionable. But a person who has worked on the issues at Facebook said that major Silicon Valley companies were still working on the much easier problem of blocking previously identified child pornography videos. Identifying violence in a newly uploaded video would be very difficult, this person said. Advertisers have not identified the violent videos as a major concern. Facebook is still a safe place for companies to build brands, said Barry Lowenthal, president of the Media Kitchen, a New York-based media buyer. "It's pretty amazing that they were able to figure it out and get it down in such a short period of time with 2 billion users," he said. (Additional reporting by Jeremy Wagstaff in Singapore, Jessica Toonkel in New York and Joseph Menn and David Ingram in San Francisco; Editing by Clarence Fernandez, Mike Collett-White and Lisa Shumaker) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-04-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Words cant even begin to describe the horror of this tragedy. RIP little one. <deleted> facebook, what is going on the world? How was this shit allowed to stay online for 24 hours and shame on the nearly 400000 people who viewed. Fuckin disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 It breaks my heart when I see the photo of that little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habanero Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 "It could be influenced by behaviour from abroad, most recently in Cleveland," Kissana told Reuters. Sure it must be OK, because someone else did it! Sick, I mean really Sick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetrout Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) unbelievable sad, the world has turned another corner for the worst. RIP little tike Edited April 26, 2017 by davetrout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Wow, that is a tough one to go through... I can understand why some fems dont want anything to do with the Thai boys (they never mature to men) Its a sad day and I feel sorrow at the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Bad enough for the violence and innocent victims, but to post it online (or film it live) is just plain evil and serves no purpose. Our society takes and abuses useful technology to the point where we probably shouldn't have it available to us. What a tragedy. Poor little one, RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boooker Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 A child whom had just begin life with trust in parents must had been scared for that brief moment.It is a shame that the word USE is so driven in this society and chòosen to exercise practise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 No words to describe this horror.... feels like i am dead already. I will not search this in Google to watch anywhere. Totally nonsense person, worst example to the humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 What's wrong with Thai so called men. Is it they cannot except no or different opinions some times. Why take their own evil out on someone else. Most are just small men with small men syndrome. Hope the incident gorgouse child finds peace. Bless her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, starky said: Words cant even begin to describe the horror of this tragedy. RIP little one. <deleted> facebook, what is going on the world? How was this shit allowed to stay online for 24 hours and shame on the nearly 400000 people who viewed. Fuckin disgusting. Like I said before.......When stripease started to become popular and was described as "discusting".......a well known person at the time was quoted as saying....." It is the "applause" that is discusting" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepcell Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 He is not a man, not a human being, burn in hell piece of garbage, ultimate nonsense, no more words to describe. sick mtfckr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, webfact said: Earlier in the day, the Public Health Ministry had urged the online giant to remove the video from the Internet. The BBC is saying it was they who informed both fb and YouTube about the video and had it removed. 2,300 plus ghouls watched it before this happened. None reported it. Scum. Edited April 26, 2017 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeleto Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 2 hours ago, starky said: Words cant even begin to describe the horror of this tragedy. RIP little one. <deleted> facebook, what is going on the world? How was this shit allowed to stay online for 24 hours and shame on the nearly 400000 people who viewed. Fuckin disgusting. Couldn't agree with you more! I couldn't even read the story yesterday I was so disgusted. What fakebook does show us is the world has a disproportionate amount of idiots living on it which doesn't leave me with much confidence or optimism of species Homo sapiens. The idiots seem to out number the well mannered, kind, honest and respectful few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Never been a fan of censorship but there has got to be a limit on what is permissible on social media If Facebook can't step up to the plate and do something about this misuse of their product then maybe the authorities need to step in and do it for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 How messed up in the head must a person be to do something like this to a wee child and record/upload it? RIP little one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I could live very easy without Facebook It's like a rotten fruit, it starts off as some thing good and ends up, after it's been through a few hands, as something that is decaying rapidly and spreads disease everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 16 minutes ago, Dukeleto said: Couldn't agree with you more! I couldn't even read the story yesterday I was so disgusted. What fakebook does show us is the world has a disproportionate amount of idiots living on it which doesn't leave me with much confidence or optimism of species Homo sapiens. The idiots seem to out number the well mannered, kind, honest and respectful few. If you think it's bad now, just imagine what the future genrations are going to be like. I'm so glad I was born in the 1970s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileydude Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Social media has its pro's but this is definitely one of its con's. People deal with problems differently and mental health issues are often difficult to detect but it would benefit us and society as a whole if we educated ourselves on the signs of common problems such as depression, anxiety etc and to be aware of it in case we can help those around us instead of just focusing on ourselves. Society has become too narcissistic as it is. So sadddened to hear what has happened. RIP little one. Edited April 26, 2017 by smileydude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 As I mentioned in another post, I cannot understand why Facebook is allowed to braodcast live, unmoderated content. - If you have a radio phone-in program, there is a 20 second (approximately) time delay between the caller and the broadcast, to allow the sound engineer to cut the sound if the caller swears on-air. - If you broadcast live text-chat on TV screens (as my company did yonks ago), you have to moderate and check every message before it is aired on the TV screen. - Why is Facebook allowed to air live, unmoderated content? (The answer of course is $$$$$$$$, because most live broadcasts are OK, and Facebook Live is a major attraction for Facebook users). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchibenkei Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Mental illness is a problem in just about every country I'll bet. Instead of male bashing, we should look for ways to improve detection and treatment. It's the only way to prevent these tragedies from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, uchibenkei said: Mental illness is a problem in just about every country I'll bet. Instead of male bashing, we should look for ways to improve detection and treatment. It's the only way to prevent these tragedies from happening. No one is male bashing. They are pointing out how fb is unable to prevent this sort of thing being uploaded, that those who watch and share videos like this are utterly worthless creatures and this man was scum. All are pertinent points. Edited April 26, 2017 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, simon43 said: As I mentioned in another post, I cannot understand why Facebook is allowed to braodcast live, unmoderated content. Everything that Facebook does is done in order to increase page views and, as a result, increase advertising revenue. They dont care about anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 This news item is all over the international news channels (BBC). Facebook is bleating over how it is trying to improve the monitoring of videos that are uploaded to Facebook Live. What it doesn't yet seem to recognise is that Facebook Live provides a channel for nutters and perverts to get their one minute of fame. I say close down or block Facebook Live, until Mark and his team of very rich company colleagues get their act together and ensure that every single upload to Facebook Live is moderated and checked for its content. If that is impossible to do, then close Facebook Live until the technology exists to make it possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Truly a sad story My heart bleeds for the mother She will live with this horror for the rest of her life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) If a person was to steal a car and deliberately drive into people to kill them would/should that particular car manufacturer be lambasted? The tragedy is the incident itself. He was a murdering b-----t and she an innocent child caught up in a family dispute. Edited April 26, 2017 by owl sees all spelling error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Facebook Live needs to be shut down immediately after these reprehensible acts . During the shutdown they need to adapt the technology that immediately blocks these type of acts being shown. Once they are certified it can be relaunched. If they refuse- Governments should then shutdown Facebook altogether. Technology is great when used for the common good. I don't see any good with this type of technology. There have been too many incidents of people acting out just to get attention and also committing vile acts. Not only are the perpetrators mentally ill- but those who watch are also in need of psychiatric help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pentap Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Sick! Poor defenseless child. She had no life! Her father took away her life! What a fxxcking low life, uncaring, uneducated, <deleted>! Like most of them. This very sad and moving report has really upset me emotionally, when I think about her last moments. Poor child. Truly unbelievable. What is it with these people?No compassion. No dignity. No respect. Life is cheap. T. I. T! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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