I had been reading through the materials on non-O and OA visas. This is something I just started looking at and am certainly no expert on the topic. While looking at things I stumbled across info on a new 10 Year Senior Tourist Visa.

 

http://www.richardbarrow.com/2016/12/long-stay-thai-visa-for-senior-tourists-to-be-extended-to-10-years/

 

Anybody know more about this? I could qualify.  

Edited April 29, 20179 yr by Chi Flyer

There is no such thing at the moment.

There's at least one lengthy thread that deals with the proposal and if you do a forum search you can probably find more references to the long stay options.

 

 

 Elite Family Excursion : 5 years long stay visa (New!!!) 
Ideal for the family that enjoys frequent visits to Thailand whether for leisure or business, the Elite Family Excursion program provides the legendary warm welcome of Thai hospitality from the moment you and your family step off the plane. You will all be escorted quickly through the immigration procedures and enjoy the convenience of the transfer service that we have arranged especially for you and your family.
[fact sheet : http://goo.gl/TwduXc]
 

·        Elite Family Alternative : 10 years long stay visa (New!!!) 
For the discerning traveler who believes that his/her family deserves the very best and every step taken is well planned out. We offer you and your loved ones the utmost in convenience. Every time when entering or leaving Thailand, the Elite Family Alternative allows you and your family to enjoy and make use of your time in Thailand whether for long vacations or just for short visits.
[fact sheet : http://goo.gl/IWpCfD]
 

·        Elite Privilege Access  : 10 years long stay visa  (New!!!) 
If you are among the many who truly enjoy Thailand and agree that there are numerous facets the country has to offer such as the beautiful natural attractions and destinations, coupled with the graceful Thai hospitality along with some of the most delicious cuisine in the world, you will find that the Elite Privilege Access membership is tailor made for you.
[fact sheet : http://goo.gl/XhZ0Ho]
 

·        Elite Superiority Extension  : 20 years long stay visa (New!!!) 
If you are thinking of settling down, doing so in Thailand may be the best choice you can make. Being a member will allow us to help you make the right decisions and assist you to get the proper documentations done so that you can stop worrying about the legal maze that comes with such a major decision.
[fact sheet : http://goo.gl/OGl7TT]

 

 

 

Edited April 30, 20179 yr by Suradit69

Except you have stash of cash to throw in/put at risk for "the new 10 yr" visa you should better forget it. I can not remember a single report about someone actually having gone this path.

 

If you are over 50 yr and have proof of income/funds for the Non O-A then go this route.

Gives you almost 2 yr of stay with just one single border run and no obligation to put money in a Thai bank account or whatever.

The elite visa is an option for the wealthy under 50 yr old.

 

4 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Except you have stash of cash to throw in/put at risk for "the new 10 yr" visa you should better forget it. I can not remember a single report about someone actually having gone this path.

 

If you are over 50 yr and have proof of income/funds for the Non O-A then go this route.

Gives you almost 2 yr of stay with just one single border run and no obligation to put money in a Thai bank account or whatever.

The elite visa is an option for the wealthy under 50 yr old.

 

Yes, the very wealthy, who will then get nothing in return at the end of the five or ten years, and still have to do 90 day reports.

13 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Except you have stash of cash to throw in/put at risk for "the new 10 yr" visa you should better forget it. I can not remember a single report about someone actually having gone this path.

 

If you are over 50 yr and have proof of income/funds for the Non O-A then go this route.

Gives you almost 2 yr of stay with just one single border run and no obligation to put money in a Thai bank account or whatever.

The elite visa is an option for the wealthy under 50 yr old.

 

Would this Non O-A visa be doable for someone legally working and living in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam but wishing to visit Thailand for, say, a weekend every month or two?  I am over 50 years old and have over 800,000 baht in my bank account in Thailand as well as in my account in Vietnam.  Thanks very much.

I don't know specifically for Vietnam.

Usually the Non O-A can only be applied at your home country OR country of residence.

Country of residence needs an appropriate document to proof.

 

Maybe someone knows about Vietnam.

Vietnam is now my country of residence.  I guess the best thing is if I just stop by the Thai consulate here next week and ask them.

41 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Except you have stash of cash to throw in/put at risk for "the new 10 yr" visa you should better forget it. I can not remember a single report about someone actually having gone this path.

 

If you are over 50 yr and have proof of income/funds for the Non O-A then go this route.

Gives you almost 2 yr of stay with just one single border run and no obligation to put money in a Thai bank account or whatever.

The elite visa is an option for the wealthy under 50 yr old.

 

2 years?

Is this a retirement visa?.   Last 12 months not 2 yrs.

1 minute ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

2 years?

Is this a retirement visa?.   Last 12 months not 2 yrs.

It is a OA long stay visa you can apply for in your home country or country of legal residence.

The visa allows unlimited one year entries for a year from the date of issue. By getting a new one year entry just before the visa expires you can get 2 years of total stay from it.

6 minutes ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

2 years?

Is this a retirement visa?.   Last 12 months not 2 yrs.

No, the visa is valid for multiple entries to Thailand for one year.

Each entry gives you another one year of admission to stay.

 

If you do a border run (out/in) just before the visa expires (ENTER BEFORE date) you will get another year.

During this "additional" year you would need a re-entry permit if you want to leave/reenter and not loose the permission to stay (because the visa as such has expired).

 

All in all two years hassle free, just 90 day reports required.

40 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Yes, the very wealthy, who will then get nothing in return at the end of the five or ten years, and still have to do 90 day reports.

5 years stay in thailand for only 3000usd per year is not nothing. does not seem like that much for a self funded retiree. everyone with the elite visa says how good it is.

5 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

5 years stay in thailand for only 3000usd per year is not nothing. does not seem like that much for a self funded retiree. everyone with the elite visa says how good it is.

If it's the only straight legal way to stay long time under the age of 50 what else could they say

I have no idea why I would waste that much money if over 50.

Cost for annual extension is 1900 Baht plus document cost and travel expense to the office.

Far from 3000 USD (100'000 Baht).

18 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

If it's the only straight legal way to stay long time under the age of 50 what else could they say

I have no idea why I would waste that much money if over 50.

Cost for annual extension is 1900 Baht plus document cost and travel expense to the office.

Far from 3000 USD (100'000 Baht).

i just finished 10 years in thailand and know many under 50 year olds jumping through all sorts of hoops to stay. i would not live there under 50 if i could not afford the elite visa.  the retirement visa is excellent and i think many over 50 year old  westerners dont appreciate how easy it is to stay in thailand. i will be back to thailand when the kids are through school as long as the retirement visa is still so easy and so cheap. would consider the elite visa as well if they make the retirement visa difficult or expensive.

1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

Except you have stash of cash to throw in/put at risk for "the new 10 yr" visa you should better forget it. I can not remember a single report about someone actually having gone this path.

 

If you are over 50 yr and have proof of income/funds for the Non O-A then go this route.

Gives you almost 2 yr of stay with just one single border run and no obligation to put money in a Thai bank account or whatever.

The elite visa is an option for the wealthy under 50 yr old.

 

How would anybody go"this path" when the visa does not even exist yet, the 10 year retirement visa was a suggestion, not an option.

1 hour ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

5 years stay in thailand for only 3000usd per year is not nothing. does not seem like that much for a self funded retiree. everyone with the elite visa says how good it is.

"everyone with the elite visa says how good it is".   Of course they do, people with plenty of money who can afford to lose it.

36 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

"everyone with the elite visa says how good it is".   Of course they do, people with plenty of money who can afford to lose it.

 

I understand that you "hate" the TE program but your arguments get weaker by the day, imho. So what do you mean "who can afford to lose it"? The 500k are an investment in a more comfortable way of spending extended periods of time in TH. Of course there are those (esp. under the age of 50) who prefer to go on 6 visa runs every year hoping that the SETV regime won´t change. And of course the same goes for those who do not have the money to invest the 500k or see no value in it compared to spending 30, 40 or 60k a year for their visa runs. Each to their own. However, it is an investment in, what someone recently called a "lifestyle", and as with many investments the money partially or fully disappears. Whoever bought a car knows that the moment you drive off the dealer´s car park you´ve lost thousands and thousands of your initial investment/payment. But does the buyer care, worry (or like you moan) about it? 

 

Anyway, ´nuff said.....

Edited April 30, 20179 yr by DUS

A flag was flown on TVF a while back and govt officers are still wading through the feedback.

2 hours ago, BangkokBaksida said:

Would this Non O-A visa be doable for someone legally working and living in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam but wishing to visit Thailand for, say, a weekend every month or two?  I am over 50 years old and have over 800,000 baht in my bank account in Thailand as well as in my account in Vietnam.  Thanks very much.

No problems mate,just have to be retired in Thailand.Probably have to get OA in home country.

Edited April 30, 20179 yr by louse1953

34 minutes ago, DUS said:

 

I understand that you "hate" the TE program but your arguments get weaker by the day, imho. So what do you mean "who can afford to lose it"? The 500k are an investment in a more comfortable way of spending extended periods of time in TH. Of course there are those (esp. under the age of 50) who prefer to go on 6 visa runs every year hoping that the SETV regime won´t change. And of course the same goes for those who do not have the money to invest the 500k or see no value in it compared to spending 30, 40 or 60k a year for their visa runs. Each to their own. However, it is an investment in, what someone recently called a "lifestyle", and as with many investments the money partially or fully disappears. Whoever bought a car knows that the moment you drive off the dealer´s car park you´ve lost thousands and thousands of your initial investment/payment. But does the buyer care, worry (or like you moan) about it? 

 

Anyway, ´nuff said.....

At least you get some money back from your investment in a car,quite a lot in Thailand.You get nothing back from TE visa,you can't sell it and if you pull out you get nothing.Fair enough for the rich under 50's,but anybody else would be a mug.

1 minute ago, louse1953 said:

At least you get some money back from your investment in a car,quite a lot in Thailand.You get nothing back from TE visa,you can't sell it and if you pull out you get nothing.Fair enough for the rich under 50's,but anybody else would be a mug.

 

The TE member pays for what she/he perceives as "piece of mind" for 5, 10 or 20 years and they value that "piece of mind" at 500k - 1mn. That´s what a TE member pays for and that´s exactly what he/she gets. Nothing less and nothing more. The fact that it becomes such an emotional topic for those who don´t have / don´t want to have / cannot afford a TE membership, however, puzzles me.

 

 

Even if I did have it, I personally would not gamble 500k or 1 mil on what  or who is next in power, Thailand is far too unstable to take that gamble.(imho).

1 minute ago, CharlieH said:

Even if I did have it, I personally would not gamble 500k or 1 mil on what  or who is next in power, Thailand is far too unstable to take that gamble.(imho).

 

Fair enough! 

 

The TE program has survived coups etc so I´m personally not too concerned about that but yes, as I said, some don´t WANT to become TE members and that´s perfectly fine. I am only laughing about those who seem to become almost agitated whenever TE gets mentioned. LOL

 

Anyway, this thread isn´t about TE but the 10 yrs senior TR visa so ´nuff said about TE in this thread from my side.

 

Enjoy the weekend everyone!

 

 

1 hour ago, possum1931 said:

"everyone with the elite visa says how good it is".   Of course they do, people with plenty of money who can afford to lose it.

how much does it cost to live in thailand per year? i would need at least 20 000US$, i would need probably 40 000US$ to stay in my western country. it would save me 20k to live in thailand per year. to only pay 3k for a visa to stay there i am still well ahead. even if your living expenses are half mine you still can easily pay the elite visa and come out far ahead.

1 hour ago, possum1931 said:

"everyone with the elite visa says how good it is".   Of course they do, people with plenty of money who can afford to lose it.

It is not about "loosing" the money.

There are actually a number of People who are above 50 years old and still work...

If you are like me...working in a good Job, outside Thailand, that pays well and you can not stay in Thailand in such a way that you can renew your extension of stay when it is due...you might enjoy the fact that you can come and go in Thailand as you want/need without to worry how long or short you can stay this time.

The TE Visa provides you with this freedom.

37 minutes ago, Tom9999 said:

It is not about "loosing" the money.

There are actually a number of People who are above 50 years old and still work...

If you are like me...working in a good Job, outside Thailand, that pays well and you can not stay in Thailand in such a way that you can renew your extension of stay when it is due...you might enjoy the fact that you can come and go in Thailand as you want/need without to worry how long or short you can stay this time.

The TE Visa provides you with this freedom.

Yes, at a cost, but if you can afford to lose it, then good luck to you. Oh! and don't forget your 90 day reporting or the cost of a re entry permit.

3 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Yes, at a cost, but if you can afford to lose it, then good luck to you. Oh! and don't forget your 90 day reporting or the cost of a re entry permit.

 

???? 

Edited April 30, 20179 yr by DUS

46 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

how much does it cost to live in thailand per year? i would need at least 20 000US$, i would need probably 40 000US$ to stay in my western country. it would save me 20k to live in thailand per year. to only pay 3k for a visa to stay there i am still well ahead. even if your living expenses are half mine you still can easily pay the elite visa and come out far ahead.

As I said it's fine if you can afford it, and don't mind loosing it at the end of the five or ten years, because that is what you are doing. Just my opinion.

1 minute ago, possum1931 said:

Oh! and don't forget your 90 day reporting or the cost of a re entry permit.

The 90 day reporting is not that big a deal. You can do them by mail or online.

No need for a re-entry permit since the PE visa allows unlimited one year entries for 5 years from the date it is issued.

1 hour ago, DUS said:

 

I understand that you "hate" the TE program but your arguments get weaker by the day, imho. So what do you mean "who can afford to lose it"? The 500k are an investment in a more comfortable way of spending extended periods of time in TH. Of course there are those (esp. under the age of 50) who prefer to go on 6 visa runs every year hoping that the SETV regime won´t change. And of course the same goes for those who do not have the money to invest the 500k or see no value in it compared to spending 30, 40 or 60k a year for their visa runs. Each to their own. However, it is an investment in, what someone recently called a "lifestyle", and as with many investments the money partially or fully disappears. Whoever bought a car knows that the moment you drive off the dealer´s car park you´ve lost thousands and thousands of your initial investment/payment. But does the buyer care, worry (or like you moan) about it? 

 

Anyway, ´nuff said.....

and there is no chance that the TE program will stop, or changes made to it? You are living in Thailand you know.