Srikcir Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 4 hours ago, mtls2005 said: The RTN has already built a massive sub facility at Sattahip, including a simulator, at great cost in hopes of getting a sub. It opened to great fanfare in July, 2014. A new headquarters, training center including German Sub simulator costing cost 540 million baht (£9.8 million). https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/07/thailand-new-naval-base-submarines In 2011, Thailand negotiated to buy six small used submarines from Germany for 7.7 billion baht (£139 million), but let the deal expire. https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/980999-pheu-thai-opens-fire-at-submarine-deal/?page=5#comment-11848345 The Royal Thai Navy has contracted German defense contractor Rheinmetall for the delivery of an additional training simulator. Under the contract, Rheinmetall’s Simulation and Training unit will supply Thailand with a turnkey system known as the Naval Warfare Training Simulator (NWTS). The order includes construction of a new building, including infrastructure. http://navaltoday.com/2017/04/10/royal-thai-navy-contracts-rheinmetall-for-training-simulator-delivery/ Build a sub base and subs will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Anon999 said: In the area of Isaan that I live there has been considerable infrastructure work as opposed to very little in the previous 10 years. Hmm, a qualified yes, although I am sceptical as to the extent to which this is the governments policy... Apropos of this, I have recently been driving regularly between Chiang Rai and Chiang Mai (mother in law undergoing treatment in Chiang Mai University Hospita). I have noticed several new road lighting installations en route. Inexplicably, the road is brightly illuminated for several hundred meters, and then plunged into darkness. At virtually all of these locations the road is straight and level with no obvious dangers. In a couple of cases the road has steep gradients and sharp corners, even unlit junctions, immediately before or after the illuminated stretch. Wondering about this I then realised that the lit stretches of road were adjacent to government offices, principally the highways department depots.. A metaphor for what drives a lot of government spending? Perhaps a metaphor that could be extended to the submarine purchase - of no real practical use, but makes the bosses look good and feel good.... Edited May 2, 2017 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 A new headquarters, training center including German Sub simulator costing cost 540 million baht (£9.8 million).https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/07/thailand-new-naval-base-submarines In 2011, Thailand negotiated to buy six small used submarines from Germany for 7.7 billion baht (£139 million), but let the deal expire.https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/980999-pheu-thai-opens-fire-at-submarine-deal/?page=5#comment-11848345 Snip... Build a sub base and subs will come. And sit undetected off the entrance to the Gulf, and hit it with cruise missiles... Undetected because Thailand will have spent all its resources on Submarines to awe its neighbours, at the expense of anti submarine capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, JAG said: And sit undetected off the entrance to the Gulf, and hit it with cruise missiles... Undetected because Thailand will have spent all its resources on Submarines to awe its neighbours, at the expense of anti submarine capability. Out of all the schemes Thailand comes up with this is the most ridiculous idea the have had. The costs are ridiculous and can you imagine the costs for supporting this White Elephant . Better they spend it on infrastructure to grow the economy Or work to develope a Hi tech industry of some sort But to blow this money on a war time machine that clearly is not necessary is only in the mind of a military leader . Edited May 2, 2017 by realenglish1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Duck Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I am curious, is this a nuclear sub? Or an ancient Diesel powered sub? You never know with China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardrunner Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Grumpy Duck said: I am curious, is this a nuclear sub? Or an ancient Diesel powered sub? You never know with China no it is one of the earlier models with oars down the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Duck Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, yardrunner said: no it is one of the earlier models with oars down the side I didn't think of that. 555 Edited May 5, 2017 by Grumpy Duck Spelling correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 On 5/1/2017 at 9:46 AM, williamgeorgeallen said: dont think this is really justification for thailand spending this money. i dont see any benefit to thailand buying these subs. thailand is not under any threat and the money, where ever it came from should be better spent on helping the people, or not borrowed in the first place. wonder how the general thinks it will help the economy. it is not just purchasing them but the ongoing cost as well which will probably end up with them being mothballed like the aircraft carrier. Can you get double indemnity insurance for a submarine and crew though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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