Anyone have the current model manual Triton?

[giddyup]

The wife was just given a lift back to her village in one, and from what she described it seems like a real procedure just to start it. Now, maybe the owner doesn't know what he's doing, but she was trying to explain that the reverse camera either had to be engaged or disengaged before it can be started, and a couple of other (vague) steps. Just aroused my curiosity as to whether anything like this is true.

[JaseTheBass]

If manual, it probably just needed the clutch pedal pressed like a lot of cars.

 

Seems like the usual scenario of the modern world clashing with a Thai.

[giddyup]

Just now, JaseTheBass said:

If manual, it probably just needed the clutch pedal pressed like a lot of cars.

 

Seems like the usual scenario of the modern world clashing with a Thai.

That's why I asked the question of a current Triton owner, because she insisted that something had to be done with the reverse camera before the truck could be started. Now she's not a driver, but she said that there was more to starting it than getting and turning a key or pressing a button.

[JaseTheBass]

3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

That's why I asked the question of a current Triton owner, because she insisted that something had to be done with the reverse camera before the truck could be started. Now she's not a driver, but she said that there was more to starting it than getting and turning a key or pressing a button.

It makes no sense. The reversing camera only operates when reverse is selected.

 

What does make sense is 2 female Asians talking about/using cars and not having a clue. Some of the s**t my missues comes out with sometimes...

[giddyup]

6 minutes ago, JaseTheBass said:

It makes no sense. The reversing camera only operates when reverse is selected.

 

What does make sense is 2 female Asians talking about/using cars and not having a clue. Some of the s**t my missues comes out with sometimes...

I agree, but she insists it was a real palaver starting the pickup. I said they make cars/trucks user friendly, they don't go out of their way to confuse people, so I really have no idea what could have been so confusing. There were 3 male drivers sharing the driving, the owner plus two relatives.

[Gary A]

There is a starting procedure for late model vehicles. For a manual, it has to be in neutral and the clutch has to be depressed. That's it.  Some people say the air con must be turned off. I have never done that with any of my vehicles, nor do I open the hood to cool the battery or let it idle for five minutes to cool the turbo.

[Pdaz]

2 hours ago, giddyup said:

I agree, but she insists it was a real palaver starting the pickup. I said they make cars/trucks user friendly, they don't go out of their way to confuse people, so I really have no idea what could have been so confusing. There were 3 male drivers sharing the driving, the owner plus two relatives.

You have to remember that this is a country where it can often take five adults to change a flat tire. Something that pretty much any 16 yr old can easily accomplish on his own in the UK

[Boycie]

2 hours ago, Gary A said:

There is a starting procedure for late model vehicles. For a manual, it has to be in neutral and the clutch has to be depressed. That's it.  Some people say the air con must be turned off. I have never done that with any of my vehicles, nor do I open the hood to cool the battery or let it idle for five minutes to cool the turbo.

 

Opening the hood to cool the battery?  Mrs Boycie explained that is was to stop the sun shining in through the windscreen. Engine hot already, little bit of sun no problem 

[transam]

17 hours ago, Gary A said:

There is a starting procedure for late model vehicles. For a manual, it has to be in neutral and the clutch has to be depressed. That's it.  Some people say the air con must be turned off. I have never done that with any of my vehicles, nor do I open the hood to cool the battery or let it idle for five minutes to cool the turbo.

Round town driving you do not have to let the turbo idle, if you stop from high speed driving one minute idle is advised so the oil takes the heat to the sump before you shut down...

[MINIMIGLIA]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Round town driving you do not have to let the turbo idle, if you stop from high speed driving one minute idle is advised so the oil takes the heat to the sump before you shut down...

No the advise to let the engine idle before turning off is to allow the turbo impeller to slow right down, before turning off and stopping the oil supply, Gary only creeps about so no problem for him, ha ha!!

[transam]

32 minutes ago, MINIMIGLIA said:

No the advise to let the engine idle before turning off is to allow the turbo impeller to slow right down, before turning off and stopping the oil supply, Gary only creeps about so no problem for him, ha ha!!

Sure but heat is the biggy....My handbook gives the advice too..

 

https://www.motoringassist.com/motoring-advice/car-maintenance/engine-and-transmission/6-tips-to-protect-your-cars-turbo/

[MINIMIGLIA]

No it is lack of oil to the bearing on the impeller, it will stay hot for ages, not a problem, lack of oil is the killer.

[transam]

3 hours ago, MINIMIGLIA said:

No it is lack of oil to the bearing on the impeller, it will stay hot for ages, not a problem, lack of oil is the killer.

Don't think you understand my input....But that's OK as long as folk have read mine...

[Anythingleft?]

Both replies are correct, heat dissipation from a long run ie motorway and allowing it to run on without a pressurized oil feed if you went straight to off from a high idle
I would say that most low performance turbos fitted to day to day vehicles are affected more so by the lack of oil though (IMO)

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[MINIMIGLIA]

14 hours ago, transam said:

Don't think you understand my input....But that's OK as long as folk have read mine...

you clearly haven't read it, it clearly states oil not heat, I suggest you read it again.

[transam]

11 hours ago, MINIMIGLIA said:

you clearly haven't read it, it clearly states oil not heat, I suggest you read it again.

I have a few things going on at the mo....Be back Monday with my in depth reply....

 

Stay calm.....

[transam]

OK, hope your finger nails still have some left...............Before l carry on please read my link first because It seems some folk want to argue my point and it explains stuff far better than me....

 

https://www.team-bhp.com/tech-stuff/idling-rule-turbo-charged-cars

 

This is what my Toyota handbook says regarding taking care of the turbo for longevity....

 

Fluffing around town up to 50kph no ploblem..

Up to 80kmh idle for 20 seconds...

Over 80kph up, one minute......

BUT, if you have been loading the engine on mountain roads or off road the engine should idle for 2 minutes....This tells me it has nothing to do with impeller slowing down but getting the heat away from the turbo, whether from an oil cooled unit or an expensive water cooled jobby or it's just what your ride needs to survive....So, read your handbook if you don't want to spend your hard earned when not necessary....

 

 

 

[MINIMIGLIA]

9 minutes ago, transam said:

OK, hope your finger nails still have some left...............Before l carry on please read my link first because It seems some folk want to argue my point and it explains stuff far better than me....

 

https://www.team-bhp.com/tech-stuff/idling-rule-turbo-charged-cars

 

This is what my Toyota handbook says regarding taking care of the turbo for longevity....

 

Fluffing around town up to 50kph no ploblem..

Up to 80kmh idle for 20 seconds...

Over 80kph up, one minute......

BUT, if you have been loading the engine on mountain roads or off road the engine should idle for 2 minutes....This tells me it has nothing to do with impeller slowing down but getting the heat away from the turbo, whether from an oil cooled unit or an expensive water cooled jobby or it's just what your ride needs to survive....So, read your handbook if you don't want to spend your hard earned when not necessary....

 

 

 

You clearly have no idea how a turbo works, the No 1 killer is turning the engine off before the impeller has had time to slow down as spinning at 100000 rpm with no oil will ruin the impeller bearing and seals, heat has no effect as long as the oil is still flowing, if you watch one when doing a run on a dyno it glows so red that it becomes almost translucent.

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Just now, MINIMIGLIA said:

You clearly have no idea how a turbo works, the No 1 killer is turning the engine off before the impeller has had time to slow down as spinning at 100000 rpm with no oil will ruin the impeller bearing and seals, heat has no effect as long as the oil is still flowing, if you watch one when doing a run on a dyno it glows so red that it becomes almost translucent.

You clearly haven't read my link from professionals OR understand advice from Toyota to me via my handbook....Now YOU go read my link.....

[MINIMIGLIA]

2 hours ago, transam said:

You clearly haven't read my link from professionals OR understand advice from Toyota to me via my handbook....Now YOU go read my link.....

I know about turbo's, having worked with them for years, clearly you don't. I was a professional engine builder/tuner.

[transam]

Just now, MINIMIGLIA said:

I know about turbo's, having worked with them for years, clearly you don't. I was a professional engine builder/tuner.

That's cool.......But YOU said I was wrong about oil taking away heat from turbo's, which my professional link states some manufactures rely on oil doing that job...The LINK says it all...

 

Just for YOU...I am trying to point folk in the right direction regarding THEIR ride to keep the turbo in tip top condition on THEIR ride.......Handbook tells all....If folk like YOU want to dismiss that stuff it is up to you...

Did you like my "professional" link info to make things more clear to readers...?

[NanLaew]

4 hours ago, MINIMIGLIA said:

I know about turbo's, having worked with them for years, clearly you don't. I was a professional engine builder/tuner.

And all the time there was me thinking you were a JAFA.

 

(just another Ford assassin)

 

BTW, I am a qualified cheese mechanic from Dunbar. Feel free to elicit my specialist knowledge when you need it.

[NanLaew]

Back on topic, the OP's non-driver wife commenting on the difficulties another vehicle owner of obvious very limited ability is experiencing with a simple pickup truck. It's a bleeding stick shift so no need for the foot on brake, stick in Park rigmarole at all.

 

I think the best the OP can do for us is share the village name and the colour and (if possible) the rego of the truck so may avoid it like the proverbial.

[JaseTheBass]

Back on topic, the OP's non-driver wife commenting on the difficulties another vehicle owner of obvious very limited ability is experiencing with a simple pickup truck. It's a bleeding stick shift so no need for the foot on brake, stick in Park rigmarole at all.
 
I think the best the OP can do for us is share the village name and the colour and (if possible) the rego of the truck so may avoid it like the proverbial.

No, but probably need to have the clutch depressed when starting. Mine does.

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