Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

[amvet]

1 hour ago, pegman said:

Yup, what chance does an orange, draft dodging, coward have against him? By the time he and his team is finished investigating Trump's finances they will know what his allowance from Klu Klux Fred was as a 5 year old. I get the sense Trump gets taken down over $$$ reasons. 

I believe that's what cnn said about Trumps chances to win the election too?  Remember the discussions here on Thai Visa?  Mueller may bring down the the people who leaked the investigation info to cnn as he should. 

[Gulfsailor]

It's Mueller time!

 

[boomerangutang]

8 hours ago, pegman said:

 I get the sense Trump gets taken down over $$$ reasons. 

He's got more dirt on him than a mud wrestler.  I think the main thing will be his blatant obstruction of Justice, mostly around the Comey firing.   

[mogandave]

He's got more dirt on him than a mud wrestler.  I think the main thing will be his blatant obstruction of Justice, mostly around the Comey firing.   

He will be impeached, but it will not be for firing Comey.

[Opl]

"Trump’s interaction with the kids of the press is so uncomfortable"

 

 

Edited October 29, 2017 by Opl

[USPatriot]

Washington DC is going to be an interesting place tomorrow. Arest warrantso have been issued

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[USPatriot]

On 28/10/2017 at 12:49 AM, heybruce said:

That is good news.  Trump hasn't derailed the Obama recovery yet.

Yes he did  Obama was the first president ever the economy did not grow by 3%.

 

Hahahah look to it up January 2017

[craigt3365]

9 minutes ago, USPatriot said:

Yes he did  Obama was the first president ever the economy did not grow by 3%.

 

Hahahah look to it up January 2017

He's also the only president to take over in the midst of the 2nd worst recession in modern history.  235% increase in the stock market.  Massive reductions in unemployment.  Not bad.

 

Look at it up to January 2017.

[Thakkar]

57 minutes ago, Opl said:

"Trump’s interaction with the kids of the press is so uncomfortable"

 

 

At least he isn’t committing the REAL impeachable offense of being a black president in a tan suit spouting elitist talk about fancy mustard.

[Andaman Al]

2 hours ago, Gulfsailor said:

It's Mueller time!

 

Outstanding ! lmao.

 

Can someone put that on Face Book, i bet it will get 100 million views if you do ha ha. I bet Trump won't retweet that one!!

[heybruce]

23 minutes ago, USPatriot said:

Yes he did  Obama was the first president ever the economy did not grow by 3%.

 

Hahahah look to it up January 2017

Obama took office with the economy in free-fall, two unfinished wars, and a Bush budget driving a $1.3 trillion dollar deficit.  After ending the free-fall he led 7 years of recession free growth and left office with the country in much better shape than when he took office.

 

Already the Republicans are back into "deficits don't matter" mode so we can expect the budget deficit to explode.  With Trump in charge another reckless, unnecessary war or wars are a distinct possibility.  Trump's anti-trade instincts are certain to cause damage to the economy.

 

Hahahaha look it up January 2017.

 

 

[USPatriot]

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

Obama took office with the economy in free-fall, two unfinished wars, and a Bush budget driving a $1.3 trillion dollar deficit.  After ending the free-fall he led 7 years of recession free growth and left office with the country in much better shape than when he took office.

 

Already the Republicans are back into "deficits don't matter" mode so we can expect the budget deficit to explode.  With Trump in charge another reckless, unnecessary war or wars are a distinct possibility.  Trump's anti-trade instincts are certain to cause damage to the economy.

 

Hahahaha look it up January 2017.

 

 

Yeah the economy was artificially pumped up by government spending so it too the economy longer to recover.

 

That is Parton the 20 trillion dollar debt.

 

[USPatriot]

4 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

He's also the only president to take over in the midst of the 2nd worst recession in modern history.  235% increase in the stock market.  Massive reductions in unemployment.  Not bad.

 

Look at it up to January 2017.

A lot of people got off unemployment to get on disability that pays more and doesn't end

[ilostmypassword]

10 minutes ago, USPatriot said:

Yeah the economy was artificially pumped up by government spending so it too the economy longer to recover.

 

That is Parton the 20 trillion dollar debt.

 

Of course that's nonsense. Compare the performance of the United States, the UK, and the EU. The USA did the most to stimulate its econony and recovered fasted. The EU did the least in the belief that austerity was the way to make the economy recover the most quickly and only now are they partially recovered from the disaster. The UK performed somewhere in between. And we heard the nonsense predictions from the same economists who said that austerity was the best route, also predicted that the USA would suffer massive inflation because of the stimulus and QE. How did those predictions work out?

[jenny2017]

    If Trump isn't aware of the heroin epidemic that's killing tens of thousands, it's already a reason to step back.

 

     If Trump is aware of the epidemic and what's causing it, that would make him to a first class criminal. The lies that the heroin comes from Mexico can hardly be the truth. Do taxpayers have to pay for all the soldiers who're currently still in Afghanistan and perhaps protecting Poppy fields?  

 

  Why are American soldiers still in Afghanistan? And what are they doing there? The internet is full with documentaries that American soldiers look after Poppy fields and the CIA can't be far away.

 

   Some call it the "new Air America" and the older ones might remember what happened in Laos right before the Vietnam war. If his people don't mean much to Trump, he should step back immediately. 

 

  Please watch Air  America & American Made, both movies show what really happened. 

 

  Photo shows heroin addicts in Chicago. 

Edited October 29, 2017 by jenny2017

[Dumbastheycome]

Do  not  ignore  the  fact  that  the  US  $ is  also the global  benchmark  currency and  the  impact  of  printing   zillions  of  new  bits  of  paper  has  much  less impact  than  if any  other  country  attempted  the  same !

If the  Gold  Standard  was   still in place  the  $US  would  be  similar  to  the  Dong !

[Dumbastheycome]

3 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

    If Trump isn't aware of the heroin epidemic that's killing tens of thousands, it's already a reason to step back.

 

     If Trump is aware of the epidemic and what's causing it, that would make him to a first class criminal. The lies that the heroin comes from Mexico can hardly be the truth. Do taxpayers have to pay for all the soldiers who're currently still in Afghanistan and perhaps protecting Poppy fields?  

 

  Why are American soldiers still in Afghanistan? And what are they doing there? The internet is full with documentaries that American soldiers look after Poppy fields and the CIA can't be far away.

 

   Some call it the "new Air America" and the older ones might remember what happened in Laos right before the Vietnam war. If his people don't mean much to Trump, he should step back immediately. 

The  Taliban punished  the  poppy  growers  and  compelled  them  to grow  food  crops. The invasion  of  Afghanistan  reversed  that   very   quickly !

[EvenSteven]

40 minutes ago, USPatriot said:

Yeah the economy was artificially pumped up by government spending so it too the economy longer to recover.

 

That is Parton the 20 trillion dollar debt.

 

So now you're concerned over budget deficits, particularly if it helps all Americans?  Otherwise, the current Republican and Trump tax plan of giving the largest tax break in the history of the US to the 1% and running trillion dollar deficits and taking away health care from the most needy as a result is not an issue?  Are you sure you have your priorities straight?

Edited October 29, 2017 by EvenSteven

[jenny2017]

6 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

The  Taliban punished  the  poppy  growers  and  compelled  them  to grow  food  crops. The invasion  of  Afghanistan  reversed  that   very   quickly !

Thanks, you're so right. And America was looking for a reason to fight a war and they found one.

 

  Is the government that should protect its citizens involved in drug trade and watching over the cultivation of poppies? The production was nearly zero when they decided to do something. 

 

   Here's some good info: http://www.mintpressnews.com/global-war-terror-created-heroin-epidemic-us-afghanistan/218662/

[heybruce]

38 minutes ago, USPatriot said:

Yeah the economy was artificially pumped up by government spending so it too the economy longer to recover.

 

That is Parton the 20 trillion dollar debt.

 

Deficits go down under Democratic Presidents and up under Republican Presidents.  Of course you won't learn this watching Faux News.  Look it up.    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1960_2021USb_XXs2li111mcn_G0f

 

If Trump and the Republicans have their way, Bush's final $1.3 trillion dollar deficit will look small.

[jenny2017]

42 minutes ago, USPatriot said:

A lot of people got off unemployment to get on disability that pays more and doesn't end

When you need three heroin shots a day, you are disabled, aren't you?

[Kim1950]

On 10/27/2017 at 3:49 PM, EvenSteven said:

How did that optimism and euphoria work out in 2008?

 

Btw, do you realize that the richest 10% of Americans account for about 80% of American stocks and that 35% of all US equities are foreign owned?  How does that help the middle class?

52% of Americans own equities primarily in retirement accounts. Guess you aren't in that half. It doesn't matter if equities are owned outside of the US. It is still capital for US companies which they can use to expand their business and even hire more people. And, it ain't 2008, if that's what you believe than go 'short'. My sense most of these negative comments are envious people who don't have stocks or can't afford stocks, well, that's capitalism. Maybe others have tax payer funded retirement pensions, well, that's socialism.

 

It might not be Trump's economy, though as of today, it is not Obama's economy. Equity pricing is driven by future expectations. Oh, Obama's economy after 2008 was on the bill of about $20 Trillion in US debt, but who's counting, not anybody here.

Edited October 29, 2017 by Kim1950

[Kim1950]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

'S

If Trump and the Republicans have their way, Bush's final $1.3 trillion dollar deficit will look small.

"The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA), nicknamed the Recovery Act, was a stimulus packageenacted by the 111th U.S. Congress and signed into law by President Barack Obama in February 2009. Developed in response to the Great Recession, the ARRA's primary objective was to save existing jobs and create new ones as soon as possible. Other objectives were to provide temporary relief programs for those most affected by the recession and invest in infrastructure, education, health, and renewable energy."

 

Easy research, try it sometime, the US's $20 Trillion in debt not to confused with deficits was on Obama's ARRA budget with a democratic Congress. The FED helped with lowering and keeping low interest rates, and as they say, 'printing money'. We can debate, people still do, will probably always debate the merits.

[lannarebirth]

26 minutes ago, Kim1950 said:

52% of Americans own equities primarily in retirement accounts. Guess you aren't in that half. It doesn't matter if equities are owned outside of the US. It is still capital for US companies which they can use to expand their business and even hire more people. And, it ain't 2008, if that's what you believe than go 'short'. My sense most of these negative comments are envious people who don't have stocks or can't afford stocks, well, that's capitalism. Maybe others have tax payer funded retirement pensions, well, that's socialism.

 

It might not be Trump's economy, though as of today, it is not Obama's economy. Equity pricing is driven by future expectations. Oh, Obama's economy after 2008 was on the bill of about $20 Trillion in US debt, but who's counting, not anybody here.

The Fed and unscrupulous bankers put the economy in the ditch. Bush's TARP and The Fed's ZIRP pulled it out. The Fed's too low for too long interest rates will put it back in. Bush and Obama have virtually nothing to do with the economy.

[EvenSteven]

1 hour ago, Kim1950 said:

It doesn't matter if equities are owned outside of the US.

Huh?  You seem to ignore the fact that foreigners own 35% of the equities in the US, so they are the ones who benefit.  And 80% of the rest of the gains (65%) goes to the richest 10% of Americans.  Prosperity for all!  Just repeat it and it becomes true!

 

1 hour ago, Kim1950 said:

It is still capital for US companies which they can use to expand their business and even hire more people.

Non-sequitur.  These are monopoly profits for companies who are doing everything they can to off-shore production, not create jobs in the US.  Btw, Reaganomics was debunked over a quarter of a century ago.

 

1 hour ago, Kim1950 said:

And, it ain't 2008

You're right.  The analysts and economists expect a correction and this time the bubble burst may be worse than 2008.

 

1 hour ago, Kim1950 said:

if that's what you believe than go 'short'

Red herring.  Now were talking about what individuals should do?  Please stay on topic, will you?

 

1 hour ago, Kim1950 said:

My sense most of these negative comments are envious people who don't have stocks or can't afford stocks, well, that's capitalism. Maybe others have tax payer funded retirement pensions, well, that's socialism

So the Soros, Buffets and Ellisons of the world - who have often been critical of the markets - don't own stock?  lol  You don't get it.  It's not about being envious.  Rather, it's about justice - social and economic justice in a grossly unjust world.  Btw, you haven't a clue what socialism means.  And we live in a corporatocracy, an aberration of capitalism fyi.

 

 

 

[Kim1950]

4 hours ago, jenny2017 said:

 Some call it the "new Air America" and the older ones might remember what happened in Laos right before the Vietnam war. If his people don't mean much to Trump, he should step back immediately.

 

Please watch Air  America & American Made, both movies show what really happened. 

 

 

I was stationed at an Air America Base in the 60's. Most of home bases were in Thailand. There was no large scale smuggling of drugs. Anyway, today most hard drugs are imported into the US from Mexico. It's a $65 Billion business. This seems to be a 'politically incorrect fact' as it's Mexico. The cost of life, social, and law enforcement is a heavy burden. Until Enrique Peña Nieto can police this corruption, there and here, he should 'Shut-Up'. 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2017 by Kim1950

[Kim1950]

9 minutes ago, EvenSteven said:

Rather, it's about justice - social and economic justice in a grossly unjust world.  Btw, you haven't a clue what socialism means.  And we live in a corporatocracy, an aberration of capitalism.

For such a 'unjust' country, we have plenty of people, more than enough, more than we want, wanting to be in the US. They want opportunity, a better life. Life isn't fair, and you don't understand investing. It's not the investor's goal to change the US's form of government, it's to work with reality and try to make money. Yes there is corruption, could things be better, yes.

 

Would you claim there are fewer jobs in the US today than before the markets rapid increases. Would you claim if the market crashed more jobs would be created. Would you claim there are no forms of socialism in the US, like ACA subsidies for low income people or Social Security Disability or, that's right, public service pension and healthcare for life. Besides, all I know, I made serious money in the market and now have taken a more conservative position.

 

[EvenSteven]

1 hour ago, Kim1950 said:

For such a 'unjust' country, we have plenty of people, more than enough, more than we want, wanting to be in the US. They want opportunity, a better life.

Immigration is a red herring.  In any case, these are desperate people from 2nd and 3rd world countries you're talking about and they want to immigrate to 1st world countries, not just the US.  In fact, the US takes in a lot fewer immigrants than other 1st world countries on a per capita basis.  Canada, for example, takes in 3 times as many people per capita each year than the US and some of those people are Americans themselves wanting to leave your "just" society.  lol

 

Btw, where are those tax returns?

 

 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2017 by EvenSteven

[Scott]

Please get back on topic.   An intricate and detailed discussion of economics is really not relevant to the thread.  

 

[Kim1950]

46 minutes ago, Scott said:

Please get back on topic.   An intricate and detailed discussion of economics is really not relevant to the thread.  

 

Good idea. Though life will be boring without Trump. Imagine living with Pence, he could be used as sleep aid. No more cantankerous forum debates or cartoon avatars. And, the tweets, how will we survive. The Democrats will not have a policy platform. Best show, the impeachment campaign plays out for years, and we want televised court proceedings. Watch witnesses sweat and have breakdowns. News consultants calling each other names. Create Vegas betting lines. Salacious sex wire taps and video with Russian call girls.