transam Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, halloween said: I have every idea about an individuals choice of fun, and riding behind a Harley is nobody's idea of fun. I forgot to add there was another reason Jacko was always last. Combined with lousy fuel consumption, his bike came with a ridiculously small fuel tank, which meant he stopped twice as often for fuel, 3 times more often than the Moto Guzzi which had very similar engine specs. So what............? Are you saying you don't like his machine cos it didn't do what yours did....Good Grief Man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, transam said: So what............? Are you saying you don't like his machine cos it didn't do what yours did....Good Grief Man... Why should I like something I considered an over-priced pile of crap? H-D is an example of what Americans are best at, advertising. They have convinced half the world that a lousy motorcycle is something to aspire to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, halloween said: Why should I like something I considered an over-priced pile of crap? H-D is an example of what Americans are best at, advertising. They have convinced half the world that a lousy motorcycle is something to aspire to. My chum has a 1965 Aston Martin convertible, worth a fortune, he could not keep up with my ol' Pontiac, is his ride a crap mobile......?....Open your eyes to individuals fun, and not mine is better than yours cos of this and that.....Keep cool and think of others fun machine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, transam said: My chum has a 1965 Aston Martin convertible, worth a fortune, he could not keep up with my ol' Pontiac, is his ride a crap mobile......?....Open your eyes to individuals fun, and not mine is better than yours cos of this and that.....Keep cool and think of others fun machine.... BS. At the time this was a new bike, and sold at a considerably higher price than new replacements for the rest of the bikes in the group. Why are we not allowed to compare the functions of the machines we ride, and make value judgements? Google 'gormless', it is a term used for those lacking in discernment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, halloween said: BS. At the time this was a new bike, and sold at a considerably higher price than new replacements for the rest of the bikes in the group. Why are we not allowed to compare the functions of the machines we ride, and make value judgements? Google 'gormless', it is a term used for those lacking in discernment. YOU seem to be calling folk daft because of their choice of a fun ride...I can tell you that you are not a gear head, a petrol head, and if a bloke had a better ride than you you would be in turmoil..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, transam said: YOU seem to be calling folk daft because of their choice of a fun ride...I can tell you that you are not a gear head, a petrol head, and if a bloke had a better ride than you you would be in turmoil..... Turmoil, really? I have been riding bikes for 48 years, some of them much better than others, and ALL that time there has been somebody with a better ride than mine. You seem to have a problem when somebody points out that there are many motorcycles available that to everything a motorcycle should do better than a H-D. they must suffer 'mental turmoil', which I suppose is easier than trying to deny the truth of that judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, halloween said: Turmoil, really? I have been riding bikes for 48 years, some of them much better than others, and ALL that time there has been somebody with a better ride than mine. You seem to have a problem when somebody points out that there are many motorcycles available that to everything a motorcycle should do better than a H-D. they must suffer 'mental turmoil', which I suppose is easier than trying to deny the truth of that judgement. You seem to have no idea what I am talking about, you do not understand what a person wants to have fun...Weeell, that's OK, sort of....You just carry on with your machine and look down on others cos it's not your choice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidstipek Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, Moonmoon said: Gibson parts are made in china but the prices of Gibson USA and epiphones are still as high if not more expensive than what it used to be. I dont see a quality drop in Gibson USA but as for epiphones that are MIC compared to previous Japan and Korean models are shit... lol Anyways I dont think Harleys will be dropping their prices just because it is made in Thailand. American Pricing is not the issue. It is what you pay to actually get Bike to your Doorstep!! This is nothing to do with Harley Davidson, it is Customs Officers here in Thailand. It is Deeply an issue from what is paid to get Bike released, what amount goes into Cash Register and hat goes into Officials pocket. I have seen money counted out and XX amount being separated in his hand. Through slight of hand this separated amount is dropped into desk drawer... I witnessed this when I before leaving desk and asked for Cash back, because I made up excuse I wanted to pay by a different source. (Credit Card, USD etc.) He did not want to but I complained to I guess was Highest Ranking Officer. Telling him I needed to use Baht to get Bike to Chiang Mai... For Expenses etc.. After we walked away from counter as he had totally emptied cash (had to take from second cashiers drawer... he did not have enough!!) draw took picture of him taking cash from Desk and counting it out into cashiers drawer!!! (I bet the algebra math was burning out a hole in his head to get his drawer balanced!!) Edited May 26, 2017 by davidstipek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Hmmmm Sportster Skirtster..... Not REALLY a fair comparison..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidstipek Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, davidstipek said: American Pricing is not the issue. It is what you pay to actually get Bike to your Doorstep!! This is nothing to do with Harley Davidson, it is Customs Officers here in Thailand. It is Deeply an issue from what is paid to get Bike released, what amount goes into Cash Register and hat goes into Officials pocket. I have seen money counted out and XX amount being separated in his hand. Through slight of hand this separated amount is dropped into desk drawer... I witnessed this when I before leaving desk and asked for Cash back, because I made up excuse I wanted to pay by a different source. (Credit Card, USD etc.) He did not want to but I complained to I guess was Highest Ranking Officer. Telling him I needed to use Baht to get Bike to Chiang Mai... For Expenses etc.. After we walked away from counter as he had totally emptied cash (had to take from second cashiers drawer... he did not have enough!!) draw took picture of him taking cash from Desk and counting it out into cashiers drawer!!! (I bet the algebra math was burning out a hole in his head to get his drawer balanced!!) I thinking back, I should have used Credit Card! I am absolutely Proof Positive total Taxes here would have been much less as no way to pocket anything!! Then if there was an issue with what was paid, when I went to Chiang Mai Customs Office. I would have had redit Card receipt and Bangkok Customs Receipt!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 24 Hr Kitty Roadside Assistance with every PinkySent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4 hours ago, ben2talk said: They do 'nostalgia' plain rubber grips (like my PCX) for only 70 USD (2400 THB). I'm sure that they're so much better quality rubber than Honda (THB 412 (12 USD) ~ 410 THB). My bikes are also works of art and yet, today I paid 120 Bt for a pair of grips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, KarenBravo said: My bikes are also works of art and yet, today I paid 120 Bt for a pair of grips. My point at the time wasn't a price comparison except that you are much more likely to be careful / take care of something that costs so much to repair than a cheaper article, at least I am. The 120 baht handle grips are a "nothing" to replace the $100 handle grips are....... Therfore you are a bit more likely to drive safer, with more care..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2talk Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 YOU seem to be calling folk daft because of their choice of a fun ride...I can tell you that you are not a gear head, a petrol head, and if a bloke had a better ride than you you would be in turmoil..... Harley is a pose, ZX14 is funfunfun. Anyone who says that some bikes are simply too fast obviously never sent on a GSXR and wound it up to the redline in first and second gear. Driving a Lada in the snow is fun. Too heavy, too slow... hold on, wait a minute, I think I am beginning to understand now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, ben2talk said: Harley is a pose, ZX14 is funfunfun. Anyone who says that some bikes are simply too fast obviously never sent on a GSXR and wound it up to the redline in first and second gear. Driving a Lada in the snow is fun. Too heavy, too slow... hold on, wait a minute, I think I am beginning to understand now! Horses for courses, I could disagree but that just makes me not the same as you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 20 hours ago, RigPig said: Wont admit what? That the Harley is a great cruiser? No no,that it falls to pieces any time,It's just a backyard Clunker.No matter where you go they are always being worked on /repaired.got a few friends with some Hogs.now they are waking up and buying Decent bikes.They are not to bad if you have a Backup repair vehicle like they do on the big Bike rides on the Club rides.Sorry, end of story ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, digger70 said: No no,that it falls to pieces any time,It's just a backyard Clunker.No matter where you go they are always being worked on /repaired.got a few friends with some Hogs.now they are waking up and buying Decent bikes.They are not to bad if you have a Backup repair vehicle like they do on the big Bike rides on the Club rides.Sorry, end of story ! How come you can hire a Harley in the USA as a sort of fly/drive....? My friend flew to the USA to do exactly that and rode/toured many miles without a hitch, in fact his chum had a hired Harley too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Good for Thailand, bad for America. Ok Donny, what you planning to do about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Troll posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 hours ago, digger70 said: No no,that it falls to pieces any time,It's just a backyard Clunker.No matter where you go they are always being worked on /repaired.got a few friends with some Hogs.now they are waking up and buying Decent bikes.They are not to bad if you have a Backup repair vehicle like they do on the big Bike rides on the Club rides.Sorry, end of story ! And you have owned one and know this from first hand experience no doubt.... They are only always being worked on because there is so much customising that can be done, not just bolt on a new fairing or LED lights. My Harleys are the ONLY ones of their kind in the world, you could NEVER say that about a modern bike, sure the engineering is more sophisticated, sure they are fast, sure they are lots of things Harleys are not, but mine has NEVER let me down and I like the old school retro stuff the other just doesn't jell. It's your fantasy / story no one elses, stick to your rice burners / crotch rockets if you want, it's your choice as this is mine, And frankly I don't give a hoot what you think, opinions are like Aholes, everybody has one and is entightled to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeman93 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I agree Harleys are a work of art, but not a work of engineering. I can look at someone else's for free. Artist Piero Manzoni put his crap in a can in 1961 and now its worth $80,000. I wonder how many Harley owners would own them if they were better value? The times I try to have a motorcycle conversation with a Harley rider it becomes clear very quickly their choice is about improving their personal image (and they really need it too). Except the few that admit they have a Jap bike for actual riding and the Harley is for bling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 53 minutes ago, Bikeman93 said: Except the few that admit they have a Jap bike for actual riding and the Harley is for bling. So so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeman93 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 They were OK in 1903 when they copied the Indian. By the time they introduced the Harley Ego umm... Evo it all went downhill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazly Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 5 hours ago, ben2talk said: Harley is a pose, ZX14 is funfunfun. Anyone who says that some bikes are simply too fast obviously never sent on a GSXR and wound it up to the redline in first and second gear. Driving a Lada in the snow is fun. Too heavy, too slow... hold on, wait a minute, I think I am beginning to understand now! Have to agree...I could see Batman on a zx14, not a harley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Bikeman93 said: They were OK in 1903 when they copied the Indian. By the time they introduced the Harley Ego umm... Evo it all went downhill. You haven't watched "Harley and the Davidsons" have you ? 555 Edited May 26, 2017 by RigPig spelling mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, tazly said: Have to agree...I could see Batman on a zx14, not a harley But I can see Skeletor on a Harley not a ZX14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeman93 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just now, RigPig said: You haven't watched "Harley and the Davidsons" have you ? 555 Yes, and I watched Star Wars too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 What is it with you guys? Suffering from some small syndrome? It's simple the engineering, the speed all the rest are far superior on other bikes. But that's not me, my choice is a Harley and I love them! That doesn't make me inferior, it doesn't make me stupid, it just makes me differnt to you!! Get over it, ride your crotch rockets and have fun!! If I had enough money i would buy an MV Augusta, but I know I would be dead in a week, because I have no fear of speed, it's not a smart choice for me and at my age I am happy with cruising around on something special, something I made my own... simple really, and it doesn't warrant all of the critisism, do what YOU want and enjoy it, I am. BUT maybe you can't afford a million Baht for a bike and are not happy with life I don't know what your problem is. Drive your Toyota Vigo, your Scoopy, your Ninja, just enjoy it and let me enjoy what I like!! AND remember NEVER assume because it makes an ass out of u and me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Oh and one last comment... Your ZX14 will be worth nothing when it is 14 years old, my Harley is worth more now than when I bought it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, Bikeman93 said: Yes, and I watched Star Wars too. COOL!! me too try "Once were Warriors" if you haven't seen it, that's the society I grew up in.... GREAT movie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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