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[Grouse]

24 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

The tie-in between the Unionists at the Tory party has some history, with the Unionists helping out with tight votes on several occasions in recent decades. Not saying it's right or proper, just pointing out that there is some history there.

The Good Friday agreement is the issue. The DUP may well vote with the CONs. But any formal agreement to do so contravenes the peace agreement and risks disaster. May is a selfish bitch.

[pegman]

4 hours ago, dunroaming said:

Don't confuse Theresa May with the Conservative party.  Most of the senior people in the party are against her and may well unseat her.  Unlike the republicans who haven't got the guts to ditch Trump even though he too is making his party a laughing stock.

 

Dead woman walking is already becoming the mantra for TM.

The Americans are just more sutle. Trump is despised by the Republican establishment and they are in the process of giving him enough rope so he can hang himself. So far that plan seems to be working to protection.

[Stargeezr]

It is true that May  had a majority,  but  had  the greedy dream of  getting a bigger majority. Well Ms. May

that dream is  long gone.  Hope who ever  gave  you the  idea to call an early election, was sacked for such

a stupid decision.  Likely  another election will happen now, within a year.

Geezer

 

[Basil B]

33 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

It is true that May  had a majority,  but  had  the greedy dream of  getting a bigger majority. Well Ms. May

that dream is  long gone.  Hope who ever  gave  you the  idea to call an early election, was sacked for such

a stupid decision.  Likely  another election will happen now, within a year.

Geezer

 

May has not got a majority , she is the leader (for the time being) of the party with the most MP's and needs the help of the UDP to to form a government.

 

She is appointing a cabinet which is a pointless exercise as there will be a new leader in few weeks, may even be days who will appoint their own cabinet.

[Stargeezr]

Before this election Ms. May  did  have  a  majority Government, and yes Basil B,  I do know that now she

does not have a majority.  No argument there.  Okay.' Geezer

[Richard W]

12 hours ago, HauptmannUK said:

Restrictions on Freedom of Movement are possible, so soft Brexit is possible. EU legislation makes provision for minimum income requirements for residency. Westminster has simply chosen not to use these tools which are at its disposal.

There are minimum income / asset levels for 'self-sufficiency', and the Home Office use these tests  for claims of EU residence rights.   Qualifying as a 'worker' is easier.   Working a day or two a week at a sensible rate of pay will suffice for residence if work is a significant part of one's life.  The requirements for a 'worker' are culled from EU case law; there are no clear guidelines.  If one earns enough enough to pay national insurance, then the Home Office will normally not challenge one's status as a 'worker'.  Below that level, one may have to make one's case to the immigration tribunal.

[nontabury]

8 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

The tie-in between the Unionists at the Tory party has some history, with the Unionists helping out with tight votes on several occasions in recent decades. Not saying it's right or proper, just pointing out that there is some history there.

That's why it was called the Conservative and Unionist party.

[superal]

There are two numbers being uttered in the press that state either 60 billion euros or 100 billion euros to be paid or promised to be paid by 2019 before exit negotiations can begin .  The EC team will be making a stand and giving little in the way of compromises to discourage other countries to follow the UK . It points towards a hard Brexit if both sides are intransigent and would be very difficult to work with given existing labour laws / movements , business contracts , reciprocal agreements etc .  A soft Brexit ? how complicated would that be and to administrate given an unstable europe . The mind boggles .

               The British public did not really understand what was behind the vote and the huge implications involved and even now it is still unclear to what the final outcome will be and I think that there is going to be a lot happening with this event as the matter has a long way to run . Is it possible that there could be another vote to stay in the EC  ? If JC gets his way in the current Uk political  uncertainty , its anyones guess .   Just my thoughts , what are yours ?

[Dave67]

She is gambling with peace in Northern Ireland to keep herself in power , disgusting Woman

[Khun Han]

24 minutes ago, Dave67 said:

She is gambling with peace in Northern Ireland to keep herself in power , disgusting Woman

 

And Corbyn certainly hasn't tried to mess with the peace processes both here and abroad, with his un-statesmanlike public support for one particular side of various internal wars, has he? Does that make him a disgusting man?

[Dave67]

10 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

And Corbyn certainly hasn't tried to mess with the peace processes both here and abroad, with his un-statesmanlike public support for one particular side of various internal wars, has he? Does that make him a disgusting man?

He certainly didnt try to strike a deal with them to attain power

 

Read something else other than right wing news media BS

http://www.irishnews.com/news/politicalnews/2017/05/22/news/gerry-adams-jeremy-corbyn-respected-sinn-fe-in-s-democratic-mandate-1032906/

[Khun Han]

2 hours ago, superal said:

There are two numbers being uttered in the press that state either 60 billion euros or 100 billion euros to be paid or promised to be paid by 2019 before exit negotiations can begin .  The EC team will be making a stand and giving little in the way of compromises to discourage other countries to follow the UK . It points towards a hard Brexit if both sides are intransigent and would be very difficult to work with given existing labour laws / movements , business contracts , reciprocal agreements etc .  A soft Brexit ? how complicated would that be and to administrate given an unstable europe . The mind boggles .

               The British public did not really understand what was behind the vote and the huge implications involved and even now it is still unclear to what the final outcome will be and I think that there is going to be a lot happening with this event as the matter has a long way to run . Is it possible that there could be another vote to stay in the EC  ? If JC gets his way in the current Uk political  uncertainty , its anyones guess .   Just my thoughts , what are yours ?

 

The two numbers being uttered are a complete fantasy by the EU. They think they can bully us into paying something near the lower figure in order to keep themselves solvent, and not have to become a two-class union to stay afloat. Fact is, they owe us money once assets are taken into account (but, apparently, their 'golf club' is not a limited company that entitles shareholder members to walk away with their investment).

 

Hard brexit will hurt most of the EU's member states over the next ten years far more than it will hurt the UK. The daft exit fee being claimed is chump change in comparison.

 

Brexiters are aware of the fact that successive UK governments have quite sneakily/disingenuously entangled us with the EU abberation. We know it's going to be messy disentangling us. But that's not even a remotely good reason for not doing so.

[Khun Han]

2 minutes ago, Dave67 said:

He certainly didnt try to strike a deal with them to attain power

 

Read something else other than right wing news media BS

http://www.irishnews.com/news/politicalnews/2017/05/22/news/gerry-adams-jeremy-corbyn-respected-sinn-fe-in-s-democratic-mandate-1032906/

 

Dave, you have slagged off Theresa May for getting ino bed with one side of a (currently stable) conflict, and I agree that it's a dodgy situation. Corbyn has done the same thing many times. The fact that he wasn't wielding any political power at the time is irrelevant. He's presenting himself as a statesman, the statesman. Or do you think he has trashed all his political opinions now, and completely re-invented himself?

[ilostmypassword]

28 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

The two numbers being uttered are a complete fantasy by the EU. They think they can bully us into paying something near the lower figure in order to keep themselves solvent, and not have to become a two-class union to stay afloat. Fact is, they owe us money once assets are taken into account (but, apparently, their 'golf club' is not a limited company that entitles shareholder members to walk away with their investment).

 

Hard brexit will hurt most of the EU's member states over the next ten years far more than it will hurt the UK. The daft exit fee being claimed is chump change in comparison.

 

Brexiters are aware of the fact that successive UK governments have quite sneakily/disingenuously entangled us with the EU abberation. We know it's going to be messy disentangling us. But that's not even a remotely good reason for not doing so.

"Hard brexit will hurt most of the EU's member states over the next ten years far more than it will hurt the UK."

How does that work? You mean a union of about 500 million people will be hurt more than a country of about 65 million people?

[Khun Han]

5 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

"Hard brexit will hurt most of the EU's member states over the next ten years far more than it will hurt the UK."

How does that work? You mean a union of about 500 million people will be hurt more than a country of about 65 million people?

 

A union of 500 million people, most of whose members states have a strong reliance on exports to the UK. Or do you think those states will find an immediate repacement market which abides by EU rules once we have left. And don't make the mistake of believing that strength lies only in numbers with economic groupings.

[NanLaew]

12 hours ago, Khun Han said:

...with the Unionists helping out with tight votes on several occasions in recent decades ...

Not quite the same as a formal, structured, long-term "confidence and supply" agreement that is currently being discussed. Helping out with tight votes didn't imperil the peace accords whereas compromising the agreed impartiality of the signatories can.

[Khun Han]

13 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Not quite the same as a formal, structured, long-term "confidence and supply" agreement that is currently being discussed. Helping out with tight votes didn't imperil the peace accords whereas compromising the agreed impartiality of the signatories can.

 

Yes, I agree. It's perilous.And that' why the negotiations are so obviously complex. A far from ideal situation.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Khun Han said:

 

Yes, I agree. It's perilous.And that' why the negotiations are so obviously complex. A far from ideal situation.

I guess the complexity of the whole thing was somewhat lost on May when she broadly trumpeted this DUP alliance within 12 hours of her disastrous poll results. Truly evidence that she was only listening to Timothy and Hill who appeared to be lacking in the historical perspective, the Good Friday agreement and the fact that it is still a work in progress. To think that this woman was in charge at the Home Office for 6 years? I guess she had Timothy and Hill doing her thinking for her then as well. By bringing Gove back inside, the man who's seniority resulted in Hill 'resigning' from May's Home Office after a dispute in 2014, May looks like in lieu of being able to keep her friends close, is keeping her enemies closer.

[Dave67]

4 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

Dave, you have slagged off Theresa May for getting ino bed with one side of a (currently stable) conflict, and I agree that it's a dodgy situation. Corbyn has done the same thing many times. The fact that he wasn't wielding any political power at the time is irrelevant. He's presenting himself as a statesman, the statesman. Or do you think he has trashed all his political opinions now, and completely re-invented himself?

Khun Han , They all re-invent themselves to try to gain popularity unfortunatley