webfact Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Cap seal to be phased out in Thailand within a year BANGKOK: -- Thailand is expected to phase out cap seal within a year which means that the problem of 520 tonnes of cap seals which are dumped into the environment each year will be resolved. Mr Chatuporn Burutpat, director-general of Pollution Control Department, said over the weekend that most producers of bottled drinking water had pledged to phase out the use of cap seal within a year, starting in all national parks and conference rooms of state agencies where drinking water with cap seal will be banned. He explained that cap seal had nothing to do with the hygiene or cleanliness of the bottled water, but was used to make sure that water is not leaked out of the bottles. However, he said that cap seal is dangerous to the environment because it does not dissolve easily and is of no use at all. About 7 billion bottles of drinking water are produced each year and 2.6 million cap seals are used as some bottlers do not use cap seals. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/cap-seal-phased-thailand-within-year/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-06-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Meanwhile you can collect the cap seals in a plastic bag and dump them in the canal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoSabanovic Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Finally !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyen Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 So how will they seal the bottles? Or will they be unsealed so anyone can go in a shop and easily open the bottle and drink from it and put it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickb Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 This is a smart move and good for the environment. The bottles are already sealed with the cap. If someone breaks the cap seal, it would be obvious to the buyer and that bottle should not be purchased. As the article says, many water bottles already don't use the additional plastic seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiba66 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I think they have much bigger environmental issues to deal with rather than these seals. The litter issue is outrageous. Bangkok is just one big rubbish dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickb Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Sure they have much bigger environmental issues. But every little bit helps! Every marathon run starts with the first step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, rickb said: This is a smart move and good for the environment. The bottles are already sealed with the cap. If someone breaks the cap seal, it would be obvious to the buyer and that bottle should not be purchased. As the article says, many water bottles already don't use the additional plastic seal. 2.6 million cap seals !!!!!! I'm sure there are much more things they could be targeting than this bit of trivea.But it gets you in the news .Big healines good for ego,now lets forget it and go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Toshiba66 said: I think they have much bigger environmental issues to deal with rather than these seals. The litter issue is outrageous. Bangkok is just one big rubbish dump. i am with you there. i would have though charging for plastic bags would have been the first and more effective move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMo Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) While anything to reduce trash in the environment is good we also need a reduction of trash in the news media. 2.6 million cap seals do not weight 520 tonnes or to simplify it fifty thousand cap seals do not weigh 10 tonnes. Wherever trash reporting occurs the people end up with trash government. Edited June 12, 2017 by MrMo Cocked up maths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 The cap seals are there to prevent the locals' habit of opening bottles and sniffing them, tasting the contents etc then replacing the cap. They then either decide to take an unopened bottle or not to take a bottle at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 A very small step,Plastic bags are the the big elephant in the room,that needs dealing with,plus a change in the attitude that rubbish is someone else's problem,and its OK just to dump it anywhere. regards Worgerordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickb Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2.6 million cap seals out of 7 billion bottles of water just doesn't seem correct. Almost every bottle of water I've ever seen in Thailand has a cap seal. So I would expect the number of cap seals to be something much closer to 7 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnx355 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 33 minutes ago, rickb said: This is a smart move and good for the environment. The bottles are already sealed with the cap. If someone breaks the cap seal, it would be obvious to the buyer and that bottle should not be purchased. As the article says, many water bottles already don't use the additional plastic seal. Except that the local drinking water using refillable bottle do not have auto-seal cap. They have to use the plastic seal over the cap. And you return the bottle ... so less plastic bottles in the environment. In that case they will have to change the bottle type eventually or develop the new auto-seal cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xonax Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, MrMo said: While anything to reduce trash in the environment is good we also need a reduction of trash in the news media. 2.6 million cap seals do not weight 520 tonnes or to simplify it fifty thousand cap seals do not weigh 10 tonnes. Wherever trash reporting occurs the people end up with trash government. It is probably 2.6 Billion cap seals instead of 2.6 Million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickb Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 cns355, I agree with you if you're referring to the large bottles of drinking water that are used with water coolers. I was only thinking about the smaller bottles, such as 600 ml or 1,500 ml. But I would think that if they can make auto-seal caps for small bottles, they should be able to do the same with the larger caps also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 520 tons = 520,000 kg = 520,000,000 grams divide by 2,600,000 cap seals = 1 cap seal weighs 200 grams that's a heavy cap seal, and that's all I have to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatawonderfulday Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Why not just ban plastic bottles and use these edible containers for water ? problem solved ? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/04/12/edible-water-bottle-could-put-end-plastic-packaging/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobredin Ghusputin Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 They could go organic all the way and have people lap water directly from the khlongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I say it's great news! I know that when I'm hung over, with a raging thirst in the tropical heat, trying to get those little seals undone is a nightmare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 49 minutes ago, Toshiba66 said: I think they have much bigger environmental issues to deal with rather than these seals. The litter issue is outrageous. Bangkok is just one big rubbish dump. Correction : The whole of Thailand is one big rubbish dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 What about the drinking straws comes with the wrap ? I have more than 20 unused ones at home, even though i tell 7-11 staff not to give , sometimes accidentally they insert in my bag. Giving two straws rather than just one seems polite in Thai culture. Thailand needs redefinition of plastic usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckysilk Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 They should pass a law that all condominiums must provide unit water filters for each and every unit. I was shocked this wasn't a basic standard. I recently visited a friend and when leaving I offered to take the garbage to their garbage room and the room was FULL of bottled water bottles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Luckysilk said: They should pass a law that all condominiums must provide unit water filters for each and every unit. I was shocked this wasn't a basic standard. I recently visited a friend and when leaving I offered to take the garbage to their garbage room and the room was FULL of bottled water bottles. Hope the toilets had running water.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggi1968 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 It will not save the environment but I think it is great that they start to care (a little) ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 1 hour ago, jaiyen said: So how will they seal the bottles? Or will they be unsealed so anyone can go in a shop and easily open the bottle and drink from it and put it back. Presumably the same type of seals they use on other bottles, such as milk cartons. But then those still need to be broken, thus leaving a piece to be disposed of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graemej100 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I think this is a smart move but it is only a small one. There are five countries in the world responsible for 60% of the ocean's plastic pollution. Guess who is in the five? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Tong Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Water Bottle cap sealer manufacturer reportedly purchased a large number of brown envelopes recently. Possible reversal of decision in future by ministry sighting increased hygiene requirements. Edited June 12, 2017 by Juan B Tong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janhkt Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 1 hour ago, jaiyen said: So how will they seal the bottles? Or will they be unsealed so anyone can go in a shop and easily open the bottle and drink from it and put it back. It should be apparant if a bottle lid has been opened anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I share the view that plastic should be replaced by something that harmlessly degrades. Re seals; I thought they were introduced to keep supermarket poisoners/blackmailers at bay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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