JohnnyBKK Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hello, I want to set up a datacenter with hundreds of servers, its going to be very hot inside and its going to consumme a lot of electricity for the servers and air con. Is there any way to get discounts on electricity anywhere in Thailand, maybe close to some power plant or something ? Best regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Depending on the size you need, renting something high up maybe viable I rented a corner unit and the wind on the balconys somedays could nearly blow you off your feet We have to close the sliding doors to 1inch open on breezy days or things go flying around the room Haven't paid a baht for a/c since moving in Free wind beats electricity costs but it maybe difficult to find a place if you need something massive.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBKK Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 The aircon cost is not as high as the server cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 how about solar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardsong Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 talk to the electric cy in your area. they may have special tariffs for BIG users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Planing something so big and yet worry about the electric bill?!? It's time to do your calculations again before you start your venture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Nemesis7 said: Planing something so big and yet worry about the electric bill?!? It's time to do your calculations again before you start your venture truly stupid comment, anyone in business would be looking for a way to limit major overheads. only a fool would opt to pay more if its not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al007 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Maybe you are not approaching this the right way One option the Thai way bypass the meter and hook into power lines My preferred option, you say you are going to be running hundreds of servers, if this is factually correct contact the manufacturers tell them what you are proposing and ask for their recommendations, they will also be able to give you power consumption information also heat out put etc You will also need backup power when the grid is down you may need an enhanced power supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seancbk Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Sounds like someone wants to setup a crypto coin mining operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdietz Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Well he can build it on the smoking remains of the last one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucjoker Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 "boiler-rooms " are legal now???? to answer your Q : How to get very cheap electricity ? Buy cheap money and ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 A data center requires a clean environment. As much as the open window method does provide a cooling flow of air it is hardly suitable for a data center. Best bet if you are going to put is thousands of servers is to either provide generators with UPS or talk to the Electricity Authority, they may be able to give you good rates. Do you have any idea of the heat likely to be generated? Presumably you will want to maintain the room at a temperature between 16C and 22C with humidity control as well. I do have a document on Data Center cooling systems. If you would like a copy let me know your email address and I will send you a copy. Please be aware the document aims a serious Data Center's such as Google and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 16 hours ago, speedtripler said: Depending on the size you need, renting something high up maybe viable GOOD GOD! cooling a hundred servers, each emitting a minimum of 1,500 btu/h heatload, with cross ventilation at ambient temperatures (presently ~35ºC)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I find these sort of posts very strange - setting up a data centre costing many millions of baht- and then asking the old codgers ( please do not take offence ) on TV for advice on cooling and potential costings. it simply does not add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csabo Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 15 hours ago, observer90210 said: how about solar? Omg wake up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, al007 said: You will also need backup power when the grid is down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csabo Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 58 minutes ago, seancbk said: Sounds like someone wants to setup a crypto coin mining operation. Yep same thought. If the "coin" can't even cover the electricity bill, sounds like a waste of energy (wordplay intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 no offence meant gentlemen but virtually all comments in this thread match the OP's naïveté demonstrating absolute technical ignorance. i just can't keep my big mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Engineer Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 A hybrid solar system may meet the requirement. It would give you cheap electricity and a backup power supply on mains failure. What is the likely power consumption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al007 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Naam said: I can talk from experience when world cruising , you will need back up for the backup and spares for the spares The equipment above looks good, but double up This thread is either a wind up or a dreamer Fresh air as cooling with salt in the air for electronic equipment I do not think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Up north, in the mountains it's cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICECOOL Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Have you thought of going underground? Aircon costs a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I saw an ad saying they could cut my electricity bill in half if I sent them 1,000 Bht, sent the money off, and back came a cheap pair of scissors ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 18 hours ago, JohnnyBKK said: How to get very cheap electricity ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I'll share a secret with you, but you can't tell anyone. What you need to do is connect your electricity directly to the street powerlines and boom, you have free electricity. Just be careful don't get electrocuted doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Familyaffairs Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 The MEA or PEA, depending on whether you are in BKK or elsewhere, have a range of tariffs for different businesses, and businesses with certain peak hours. Talk to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 49 minutes ago, peterb17 said: then asking the old codgers ( please do not take offence ) on TV for advice on cooling and potential costings. Asking the old (and young) codgers in TV advice on anything to do business or anything that involves post-primary school science/maths is asking for trouble. Yes, there are some very knowledgeable people here, but their words of wisdom will quickly be swamped by the self-styled experts who came to Thailand as economic refugees, those who remain here as chronic over-stayers and the serial visa exempt border runners whose life experiences hinge on rudimentary survival skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 32 minutes ago, English Engineer said: A hybrid solar system may meet the requirement. It would give you cheap electricity and a backup power supply on mains failure. What is the likely power consumption? if we quantify "several hundred servers" and take 350 as a basis for calculation we look at 175kWh to power the servers and (shooting from the hip) another 175kWh cooling capacity to compensate for their heat load. not included in this calculation is the required capacity to cool the enviroment of the servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincytwboy Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, ardsong said: talk to the electric cy in your area. they may have special tariffs for BIG users. It's true. They do offer special rate for big user. I was surprised that they offer discounts for industrial users when my colleague went to talk to them and got it. I thought it's a monopoly business. BTW, no, we did not offer anything under table, just sat down and talked to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, al007 said: I can talk from experience when world cruising , you will need back up for the backup and spares for the spares The equipment above looks good, but double up This thread is either a wind up or a dreamer Fresh air as cooling with salt in the air for electronic equipment I do not think so the equipment shown in the picture is a genset generating 2 Megawatt. no need for doubling up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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