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2 minutes ago, In the jungle said:

Call me a pedant.

 

But I think technically what she does is not twerking.

 

And I bet secretly the little general loves it.

 

He's just pissed because he can no longer....

Why would i ant to call you a pendant?

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23 minutes ago, ben2talk said:

Actually I said this poster used the word 'Whatever' in the way a sulky teenager might do - the language is clearly incomprehensible as are any ideas expressed here.

perhaps you would appreciate and understand things put on a lower level of simplicity?

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19 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

perhaps you would appreciate and understand things put on a lower level of simplicity?

Dear ben2talk, just ignore him. He's either not the sharpest knife in the drawer, not playing with a full deck, 12 years old, drunk, or all four.  I'm ashamed of myself for even responding to him.

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5 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

Dear ben2talk, just ignore him. He's either not the sharpest knife in the drawer, not playing with a full deck, 12 years old or all three.  I'm ashamed of myself for even responding to him.

if you used your brains better, you may have realised earlier that yes, you can be ashamed of yourself!!...And you are continuously being rude

interrupting an exchange that did not address to you. This is precisely what I meant from a meddlesome attitude cited previously that irritates Thai's and well integrated farangs. Is this your idea on healthy debate and expressing an opinion? Sorry, but you have it all wrong dear chap!....and this reminds me when I was 8 years old in the playground when some told others not to talk to him or to  her!! :cheesy:...

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14 hours ago, daboyz1 said:

If I had a nickel for every time I've heard the "help my family" excuse, I'd have enough money to help my family. 

As they say, if you have got it flaunt it while you can.

That's why the ago gos are full of dancers too...

Not heard her sing, but if she's as "good" as the rest I'll not bother.

 

 

 

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As usual - looking through the first few posts - some sad gits on TV- who probably don't live in Thailand and have not got to grips with the truth that Thai family comes first.

 

I believe her- why not- how ever much  you hope the relationship you have with your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend - ladyboy and in between is just fabulous- you don't understand this country. 

 

Is it wrong - no- unless you are one of those appalling alpha males- just go with the flow- realise you are not in Kansas anymore, enjoy your life  and don't stress. 

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4 minutes ago, peterb17 said:

As usual - looking through the first few posts - some sad gits on TV- who probably don't live in Thailand and have not got to grips with the truth that Thai family comes first.

 

I believe her- why not- how ever much  you hope the relationship you have with your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend - ladyboy and in between is just fabulous- you don't understand this country. 

 

Is it wrong - no- unless you are one of those appalling alpha males- just go with the flow- realise you are not in Kansas anymore, enjoy your life  and don't stress. 

Sensible comments!!.....the worse are not the genuine alpha's that are natural and usually under good self-control...

 

Allow me to emphasize that the worse breed would be the gamma males, aspiring to become alpha's, in vain.. those are really bad bacteria!!! IMHO that is of course!!..

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Guys, I have a theory.

 

I was born in 1980s and I got online around 1995.

I was on irc, some forums, etc. Sure there was arguing.. But arguing like this and trolling like this didnt happen much.

And here we have it, it's the worst forum I've seen in terms of trolling, and its the only forum i know that has so many old people.

Thats the theory, that almost all internet trolls are old miserable people. And thats why trolling didnt exist to this extent in 1995-2000 because old people at the time didnt know how to use computers.. Im sure many of you will boast that u had access to internet early, but lets be honest, you didnt know how to access forums or irc etc.

 

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25 minutes ago, hobz said:

Guys, I have a theory.

 

I was born in 1980s and I got online around 1995.

I was on irc, some forums, etc. Sure there was arguing.. But arguing like this and trolling like this didnt happen much.

And here we have it, it's the worst forum I've seen in terms of trolling, and its the only forum i know that has so many old people.

Thats the theory, that almost all internet trolls are old miserable people. And thats why trolling didnt exist to this extent in 1995-2000 because old people at the time didnt know how to use computers.. Im sure many of you will boast that u had access to internet early, but lets be honest, you didnt know how to access forums or irc etc.

 

I think there could currently be a minority mix of :

 

1. young, uneducated, immature white supremacists,

2. rude middle aged, with ego issues

3. sour and lonely elderly,

4, frustrated ripped off farangs, or all of it mixed up together....

 

and in between, a majority of the TV folks who having fun, enjoy Thailand, happy with their willy willy entertainement, enjoy their pool villa's, enjoy reading posts and sometimes maliciously contributing to the heat ups, :cheesy:...

 

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17 hours ago, daboyz1 said:

If I had a nickel for every time I've heard the "help my family" excuse, I'd have enough money to help my family. 

You probably come from a country where the old and infirm get pensions and age related benefits. Are you not aware that there are no such safety nets in Thailand? Every person lives in fear for their older years. Just look at the beggars lining the streets in every city. I collect $1267 a month in disability at age 60. This is poverty in the US, but a good wage in thailand, and no Thai person regards me as poor by their standards. Based on my considerable research and personal experiences and conversations with many Thai "working girls" ,  the majority do support their families to one extent or another. But it is also the only way that many Thai girls, who lack education,  can afford a decent standard of living equal to a western modest middle class lifestyle. But then again many working girls also go to school and may have other jobs as well. So Eff -  ing what. What she does is not prostitution, and certainly a good compromise in its mixture of genuine entertainment talent with in your face not quite  pornographic sexuality. And it's fun. A young girl gets to look and feel sexy and get paid for it. And be cheered by an audience. 

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Good for her I say. And how the f do people here say she doesn't send money back to mum. Do you know her?  

My gf back in Thailand always sends back money to help with her sisters education.

As for the PMs comments. Wasn't his twin daughters In a girl band?  Did they dress and dance sexy? Who cares.  Maybe he should wind his neck in a start protecting his troops down south more.

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8 hours ago, observer90210 said:

Okay that's a more moderate view, thanks for the time and the thought.

 

But on the other end of the stick if I may, many  are a bit fed up with farangs aiming to educate and convert the locals on social, cultural or political issues that are none of our business, if I may!

I must move in different circles to yourself as I have never seen farangs acting this way apart from the bloody Mormons who knock on our door.

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20 minutes ago, Thechook said:

I must move in different circles to yourself as I have never seen farangs acting this way apart from the bloody Mormons who knock on our door.

Very true, as I do stroll a bit around different streets, off road to the solely farang gatherings, in different places in Thailand and have noticed such patterns on which,   perhaps,  you did not pay much attention.

 

However, no need to open your door any wider, you plainly need to read some of the posted jewels right here, to get an idea.

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13 minutes ago, Moonmoon said:

nothing wrong with making money off sex or sexy sexy, she is underage and a minor. thats all. 

Sorry, but she is 18. And furthermore, as per Thai law, the refered "age of conscent" for sex was 15, raised to 18 currently.

 

Lawmakers plan to raise the age to 20, but there still remains a legal grey zone with some confusion and contradictions between 15, 18 or 20 depending on the type of interaction ( unpaid consented or prostitution).

 

(ref. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/14/thai-dancer-promises-stop-twerking-scolded-countrys-prime-minister/)

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4 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Sorry, but you are wrong, she is 18. And furthermore, as per Thai law, the refered "age of conscent" for sex is 15.

 

(ref. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/14/thai-dancer-promises-stop-twerking-scolded-countrys-prime-minister/)

para. 2, line 2)

 

 
Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15. However, sex with a minor under age 18 is a compoundable offense, regardless of consent.
 

The age of consent in Thailand is 18 regardless of gender or sexual orientation, as specified by article 317,318 and 319 of the Thai Criminal Code. The current legislation applies to all regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

A high-profile example of this application of the law was a statutory rape charge filed against the lead singer of the Thai band Big Ass for allegedly having had sex with a (then) 16-year-old girl. The charge was filed by the girl after the singer refused to take responsibility for her baby. The singer has since been cleared of being the baby's father due to the results of a paternity test and he received 2 years suspended sentence.[80][81]

 

according to this link, Lamyai is still 17.

 

would you like a young girl of 17 ok of 18 (still a minor even if she is 18 is almost every countries law around the world ) to be doing such sexual acts on and singing songs about not going to school, no need for education. Find the next party, get the next high, get a guy and have fun all day influencing all other Teenage underage minor girls? 

 

Fine for you. In my eyes it's not ok. I m a musician and have played in many Thai pubs and clubs. 

I am even not against prostitution. I hope Thailand can legalise and regulate it.

But I hope these sexual acts on stage, go go bars and soapy massage can only be for Adults over 21 years of age. 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Moonmoon said:

 

 
Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15. However, sex with a minor under age 18 is a compoundable offense, regardless of consent.
 

The age of consent in Thailand is 18 regardless of gender or sexual orientation, as specified by article 317,318 and 319 of the Thai Criminal Code. The current legislation applies to all regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

A high-profile example of this application of the law was a statutory rape charge filed against the lead singer of the Thai band Big Ass for allegedly having had sex with a (then) 16-year-old girl. The charge was filed by the girl after the singer refused to take responsibility for her baby. The singer has since been cleared of being the baby's father due to the results of a paternity test and he received 2 years suspended sentence.[80][81]

 

according to this link, Lamyai is still 17.

 

would you like a young girl of 17 ok of 18 (still a minor even if she is 18 is almost every countries law around the world ) to be doing such sexual acts on and singing songs about not going to school, no need for education. Find the next party, get the next high, get a guy and have fun all day influencing all other Teenage underage minor girls? 

 

Fine for you. In my eyes it's not ok. I m a musician and have played in many Thai pubs and clubs. 

I am even not against prostitution. I hope Thailand can legalise and regulate it.

But I hope these sexual acts on stage, go go bars and soapy massage can only be for Adults over 21 years of age. 

 

 

 

 

Looks like the figures in her age are contradictory...perhaps the brit paper used the gregorian calender and the thai paper used the buddhist calender??? :cheesy:....but whatever...18, 20 or 25, not for me...I prefer them post 30+...they know how to cook better, be it a roastbeef, a cordon bleu or a penang!!!...

 

What instrument do you play?

 

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1 minute ago, observer90210 said:

Looks like the figures in her age are contradictory...perhaps the brit paper used the gregorian calender and the thai paper used the buddhist calender??? :cheesy:....but whatever...18, 20 or 25, not for me...I prefer them post 30+...they know how to cook better, be it a roastbeef, a cordon bleu or a penang!!!...

 

What instrument do you play?

 

 

I am no angel myself, led quite a rock n roll lifestyle in Thailand b4. Who am I kidding ??? I know the state Thailand is in, underage girls round the corner everywhere. I know I can't change anything.  Just a comment here and there at least.

 

Guitars! 

 

I will inbox you youtube video of me playing if you like so I don't post off topic here.

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1 minute ago, Moonmoon said:

 

I am no angel myself, led quite a rock n roll lifestyle in Thailand b4. Who am I kidding ??? I know the state Thailand is in, underage girls round the corner everywhere. I know I can't change anything.  Just a comment here and there at least.

 

Guitars! 

 

I will inbox you youtube video of me playing if you like so I don't post off topic here.

My dear friend, Europe or the USA have their own diversity of underage scandals in sandals!!...Nothing to do with Thailand IMHO...but a lot to do with money and/or deepened perversions of human nature!!

Please do post the youTube video and carry on the rock n'roll attitude!! Good Night.

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Just now, observer90210 said:

My dear friend, Europe or the USA have their own diversity of underage scandals in sandals!!...Nothing to do with Thailand IMHO...but a lot to do with money and/or deepened perversions of human nature!!

Please do post the youTube video and carry on the rock n'roll attitude!! Good Night.

Aye, I do understand how poverty drives the need for money.

 

I too play for money!!!

 

Though it was to get the girls 1st..:cheesy:

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The age of consent is not18. It varies from country to country. In the US it is different from state to state and the same in Europe from country to country.

What we should think about is the muslim child marriage and FGM problems which are ignored.

The age for being in the sex industry in Thailand is a joke really as it is all illegal anyway....

"There is no prostitution in Thailand!"

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4 minutes ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

The age of consent is not18. It varies from country to country. In the US it is different from state to state and the same in Europe from country to country.

What we should think about is the muslim child marriage and FGM problems which are ignored.

The age for being in the sex industry in Thailand is a joke really as it is all illegal anyway....

"There is no prostitution in Thailand!"

right, who are they kidding? it's like there's no murder in Paradise. 

I don't think its not that the government or whoever's in charge don't know.

They just don't want to legalise it because once the tax is legitimise, nothing will go into their personal pockets?

and oh Thailand cannot, it's a Buddhist Country .... right..

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You probably come from a country where the old and infirm get pensions and age related benefits. Are you not aware that there are no such safety nets in Thailand? Every person lives in fear for their older years. Just look at the beggars lining the streets in every city. I collect $1267 a month in disability at age 60. This is poverty in the US, but a good wage in thailand, and no Thai person regards me as poor by their standards. Based on my considerable research and personal experiences and conversations with many Thai "working girls" ,  the majority do support their families to one extent or another. But it is also the only way that many Thai girls, who lack education,  can afford a decent standard of living equal to a western modest middle class lifestyle. But then again many working girls also go to school and may have other jobs as well. So Eff -  ing what. What she does is not prostitution, and certainly a good compromise in its mixture of genuine entertainment talent with in your face not quite  pornographic sexuality. And it's fun. A young girl gets to look and feel sexy and get paid for it. And be cheered by an audience. 

I know some of the working girls send money home. But it's been my experience the vast majority send very little or none. They use that as the excuse for the career path they've chosen. Also, the poor family back home story is helpful when it's time for the tip. Imagine this. "Tilac why do you work in the bar? It's because I'm lazy and I like expensive things" Not likely to get that honest response when she's hoping for a fat tip.

Most of that money is either spent buying trivial things or supporting the boyfriend and whatever habits he may have. I've even seen cases where the mother has a nasty gambling habit.

I'm not faulting the girls really. I'm just pointing out the realities.

The help the family thing becomes especially valuable when you get the farang that wants to "save" them from the bar and send them a monthly stipend. There's numerous reasons for telling that sob story.
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