UK PM May says will consult widely on Brexit, but Britain will leave EU

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UK PM May says will consult widely on Brexit, but Britain will leave EU

 

Britain's Prime Minister Theresa May leaves after a church service in Sonning, Britain June 18, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Coombs

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Theresa May said on Tuesday that her government was committed to leaving the European Union and would listen to others' views while delivering a Brexit that commanded "maximum public support".

 

May has faced pressure, including from several senior party figures, to water down her plans to make a clean break with the EU after she failed to win a clear majority at a snap election earlier this month.

 

"First, we need to get Brexit right. That means getting a deal which delivers the result of last year’s referendum and does so in a way that commands maximum public support," May said in an emailed statement ahead of the launch of her minority government's legislative agenda.

 

"While this will be a Government that consults and listens, we are clear that we are going to see Brexit through, working with Parliament, business, the devolved administrations and others to ensure a smooth and orderly withdrawal."

 

Earlier, finance minister Philip Hammond sought to soften the more confrontational tone towards the EU taken by May, saying Britain needed to put business and jobs first, and agree a transitional arrangement to avoid an economically damaging cliff-edge exit.

 

(Reporting by William James; editing by Ralph Boulton)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-06-21

[Baerboxer]

Commanding the Public - sounds like May's idea of inclusiveness!

[dunroaming]

Not your call anymore Theresa.  No one is listening to you and the exit door is just about your only option.

[mrfill]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

Commanding the Public - sounds like May's idea of inclusiveness!

Indeed - it's like the words 'negotiation' and 'compromise' have been removed from Mother's vocabulary.

 

Unless she is hoping to use the old 'Lets compromise and do it my way' plan.

[alfieconn]

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

Not your call anymore Theresa.  No one is listening to you and the exit door is just about your only option.

It's never been her call, she is just there to carry out the country's wishes on leaving the EU.

[dunroaming]

2 hours ago, alfieconn said:

It's never been her call, she is just there to carry out the country's wishes on leaving the EU.

Yes but how to leave was up to May and she had her stupid "hard brexit" and "no deal is better than a bad deal" stance that was as wrong as you can get.  You never give away a negotiating position before the start.  Showed a naivety that was always going to fail.

 

It may have been the countries wish (well some of them) to leave the EU but it's what we are left with after the divorce.  Clearly now immigration is not going to be greatly effected and that was the main driving force for many Brexiteers.  I would like to know just what the leavers wanted from Brexit?  To take back control?  What does that mean and at what cost?

[dunroaming]

Well the queen has made her speech and it was very lightweight to say the least.  Gone is most of the Tories manifesto and the brexit talk is shallow at best leaving lots of wriggle room.  No mention of Trump's proposed visit so it looks like he really has bottled it.  No guts at all.

[alfieconn]

14 hours ago, dunroaming said:

Yes but how to leave was up to May and she had her stupid "hard brexit" and "no deal is better than a bad deal" stance that was as wrong as you can get.  You never give away a negotiating position before the start.  Showed a naivety that was always going to fail.

 

It may have been the countries wish (well some of them) to leave the EU but it's what we are left with after the divorce.  Clearly now immigration is not going to be greatly effected and that was the main driving force for many Brexiteers.  I would like to know just what the leavers wanted from Brexit?  To take back control?  What does that mean and at what cost?

A so called  Hard brexit is fully leaving the EU which is what people voted for,  the referendum question was ""Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"  now it seems a hell of a lot of people don't seem to understand the question !!!  either that or they don't want to 

 

It was actually the majority's wish to leave !

[dick dasterdly]

16 hours ago, dunroaming said:

Yes but how to leave was up to May and she had her stupid "hard brexit" and "no deal is better than a bad deal" stance that was as wrong as you can get.  You never give away a negotiating position before the start.  Showed a naivety that was always going to fail.

 

It may have been the countries wish (well some of them) to leave the EU but it's what we are left with after the divorce.  Clearly now immigration is not going to be greatly effected and that was the main driving force for many Brexiteers.  I would like to know just what the leavers wanted from Brexit?  To take back control?  What does that mean and at what cost?

I still fail to see how "no deal is better than a bad deal" is anything other than a good negotiating stance?

 

You'd prefer she said 'a bad deal is better than no deal'??!

[the guest]

EU is very clear on it's mandate, in order to enjoy free trade, you must then allow for free movement. UK is in no position to start thinking it has the upper hand. EU of course will not make an exception to this rule, nor should it. The UK will have a big shock when it realizes it doesn't have the influence it previously had. A small insignificant country floating in the wilderness, whilst the rest of the EU will enjoy prosperity. The cracks in the UK economy are starting to appear,  and it's clear that majority of the industries which are own by foreigners, will have no choice but to relocate, should the negotiations fall short of UK's expectations.

[mrfill]

5 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

I still fail to see how "no deal is better than a bad deal" is anything other than a good negotiating stance?

 

You'd prefer she said 'a bad deal is better than no deal'??!

The truth you mean?

No, we expect our politicians to lie all the time or it confuses us.

[Retiredandhappyhere]

On 6/21/2017 at 2:48 PM, dunroaming said:

Not your call anymore Theresa.  No one is listening to you and the exit door is just about your only option.

Rubbish.  She will be in charge of the Brexit negotiations until completion.  Who else do you think would like to take on the thankless charge at this stage, when they can merely sit back and criticise and, perhaps secretly and unpatriotically hoping that she fails??

 

It is about time that all the politicians accepted that we are leaving the EU and offered constructive criticism instead of the pointless and continual carping, particularly about the lack of detail of May's negotiating position.  The people in charge of the negotiations on our side of the Channel are well aware of our intentions but it makes sense at this stage NOT to place all our cards on the EU table.  The EU may think that they will get everything they want from the UK, but if that is the case, they are in for a rude awakening. The UK has shown many times in the past that it can be tough when needs be, as the "Managing Director" of the EU is personally well aware, and things will be no different this time around.

 

When all the talking is over and we are out of Mrs Merkel's and now also Monsieur Macron's "utopian" club, the UK will undoubtedly suffer some economic consequences for a fairly short period before we rediscover that we can in fact do business with not only the EU but the rest of the world also, without having to ask the former's permission.

[alfieconn]

5 hours ago, the guest said:

EU is very clear on it's mandate, in order to enjoy free trade, you must then allow for free movement. UK is in no position to start thinking it has the upper hand. EU of course will not make an exception to this rule, nor should it. The UK will have a big shock when it realizes it doesn't have the influence it previously had. A small insignificant country floating in the wilderness, whilst the rest of the EU will enjoy prosperity. The cracks in the UK economy are starting to appear,  and it's clear that majority of the industries which are own by foreigners, will have no choice but to relocate, should the negotiations fall short of UK's expectations.

You seem to have forgot that free trade work's both way's, the UK has a trading surplus with nearly every country within the EU  so it's not all one way like you seem to think.

 

[Orac]

You seem to have forgot that free trade work's both way's, the UK has a trading surplus with nearly every country within the EU  so it's not all one way like you seem to think.
 

It's a maths thing.

Of the 28 EU countries there is the potential for 27 of them to lose one trading partner or, more likely, have extra barriers in dealing with one of 27 other partners. For the UK that applies to all 27 trading partners rather than just one.

[alfieconn]

18 minutes ago, Orac said:

 

It's a maths thing.

Of the 28 EU countries there is the potential for 27 of them to lose one trading partner or, more likely, have extra barriers in dealing with one of 27 other partners. For the UK that applies to all 27 trading partners rather than just one.

 

Of course that's the case but i was just pointing out that it's not all one way !