Jonathan Fairfield Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Police spokesman says Belgian tourist dies from suffocation The deputy spokesman of the Royal Thai Police said forensic examination of the Belgian tourist showed she died from suffocation, indicating she took her own life. Pol Col Krissana Patanacharoen, deputy spokesman of the Royal Thai Police, said police investors have questioned more than 10 witnesses and have completed the forensic examination of the 30-year-old Belgian tourist Ms Elise Dallemagne. The result showed she died from suffocation as no traces of body assault were found, he said. He said her relatives have looked through he evidence and were cleared of suspicion of murder. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/police-spokesman-says-belgian-tourist-dies-suffocation/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-07-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 but suffocation is one of the easier ways without showing body assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 These cretins are fooling nobody. I'd be impressed if there was some real efforts made in the first instance but it appears that cremating the body asap was task number 1. The notion of face trumps any actual search for truth here.. Their fit up of the B2 will always be the yardstick, that was a huge story and the fallout was manageable. Feel sorry for her relatives. They'll be getting no truthful answers anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 If this had been an incident overseas and the statement was coming from the UK police I would tend to believe it. Coming as it does from the Thai police, who have difficulty distinguishing their ass from their elbow, AND it happened on Koh Tao, I am deeply suspicious. Suicide was the first thing they came out with, before they knew any background information whatsoever, and I fully expect them to stick with that, regardless of what any actual evidence might throw up. Can't go giving Thailand a bad name for the tourists now can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake333 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 No traces of assault evidence?. Wasn't she partially eaten by a large lizard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockingrobin Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, dake333 said: No traces of assault evidence?. Wasn't she partially eaten by a large lizard? Elise was identified by dental records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockingrobin Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 From the article " tried to commit suicide " A different report states that Elise was disorientated and confused suffering from dehydration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake333 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, rockingrobin said: Elise was identified by dental records SO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Fairfield Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Guru linked to Koh Tao's dead Belgian tourist left country: Police BANGKOK — Police on Monday searched residence that belonged to a spiritual mentor of a Belgian tourist who died on Koh Tao two months ago, a death her family found suspicious. Media reports said Elise Dallemagne, 30, actively participated in a New Age group led by Raaman Andreas before she was found hanged in a jungle on the island in April. Police said they wanted to question Andreas about the incident, but the self-proclaimed guru had already left Thailand. “He left the country two months ago,” Deputy Surat Thani police commander Preecha Kladsawad. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2017/07/03/guru-linked-koh-taos-dead-belgian-tourist-left-country-police/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2017-07-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevozman1 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Police are busy guys, don't worry. They are just looking for some random Burmese workers with no alibi. Justice will prevail.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bra Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 European statistics show that whilst 54% of males who commit suicide hang themselves, only 35% of females do so. The method most used by females is by taking a drug overdose usually sleeping pills. So whilst its possible that this poor woman may have committed suicide by hanging it is unlikely and it looks like we may never know the cause of death for sure. This becomes more upsetting for her family every day and I send my support to them - my 18 year old son was killed in an accident many years ago so I know a little of how they feel - but loosing a daughter in these circumstances must be far worse. RIP young lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbler Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Forensic investigation is a gaping hole in the Thai police training programme. If they want to know the truth (?) they'll need to invite Dr Pornthip to take the case, and I doubt she is high on their list of people to call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I read elsewhere police said the family of the victim said they agreed it was a suicide. I look forward to the family being told and then replying with, "Huh, what?" It will all be a big misunderstanding again of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 If she was suicidal, why didn't she stay in the triple b hut when it caught fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It doesn't matter what comments are made here.....this a seriously sinister case, and no doubt comments will soon be stopped. The influence from KT goes above the top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I don't think we'll ever know what actually happened. The police did their best to obfuscate any real investigation, so what you got left to work with. I wouldn't surprised either way between suicide or another Koh Tao murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Just now, ChrisY1 said: It doesn't matter what comments are made here.....this a seriously sinister case, and no doubt comments will soon be stopped. The influence from KT goes above the top! Are you talking about the Suthep connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, tukkytuktuk said: Are you talking about the Suthep connection? A lot further above old Suthep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Burns down half of the resort she was staying in and mysteriously disappears after booking flight home..... did the owner have fire insurance or was he/she expecting compensation from the girl?Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Aah the mysterious foreigner who carried out this foul deed has already left! Poppycock. The island houses a monster and the police KNOW who he is. Can someone please tell the poor girl's family not to believe the official bulls::t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Hard to believe suscide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogfarang Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 57 minutes ago, bra said: European statistics show that whilst 54% of males who commit suicide hang themselves, only 35% of females do so. The method most used by females is by taking a drug overdose usually sleeping pills. So whilst its possible that this poor woman may have committed suicide by hanging it is unlikely and it looks like we may never know the cause of death for sure. This becomes more upsetting for her family every day and I send my support to them - my 18 year old son was killed in an accident many years ago so I know a little of how they feel - but loosing a daughter in these circumstances must be far worse. RIP young lady. Highly unlikely? you do realise 35% means over one in every three right? as I stated earlier my theory she did try to kill herself with medication first which meant she knocked over the lamp and caused the fire at her first guesthouse that roused her and she fled - realising that hadn't worked she tried it by hanging - either way a tragic case but nothing other than koh toas reputation points to murder so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krenjai Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bigdogfarang said: Highly unlikely? you do realise 35% means over one in every three right? as I stated earlier my theory she did try to kill herself with medication first which meant she knocked over the lamp and caused the fire at her first guesthouse that roused her and she fled - realising that hadn't worked she tried it by hanging - either way a tragic case but nothing other than koh toas reputation points to murder so far. Before hanging herself though she bought another ticket to BKK at the other resort, go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeakeasyThai Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I read the article. Pleeeeeeeese! Thais really are Kings of Mumbo Jumbo bullshit. They would win a gold medal if it was an Olympic sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I don't know what to think with all the conflicting police/press reports, is there any news source producing a credible report of what they know happened?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Tong Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Body cremated...√ Scapegoat..√ Elusive suspect...√ All that is left to to is to find the real Serial Killer of Death Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogfarang Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Krenjai said: Before hanging herself though she bought another ticket to BKK at the other resort, go figure... Easily explained I don't want to post the whole theory again here - but short version - suicidal girl left for mainland in a terrible mental state - Got off at ko toa on a whim - stayed at guesthouse took sleeinng pill overdoes - knocked over lamp started fire - this brought her round and she fled - bought ticket to Bkk but a day later suicidal thoughts returned - goes into jungle and hangs herself - third attempt first was trying to jump in front of a train and was saved - put yourself in the mind of a tortured soul who contemplating suicide and all her actions make sense .. police delay release of story and try to suppress it as last thing they need is another ko Tao farang death reported end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krenjai Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bigdogfarang said: Easily explained I don't want to post the whole theory again here - but short version - suicidal girl left for mainland in a terrible mental state - Got off at ko toa on a whim - stayed at guesthouse took sleeinng pill overdoes - knocked over lamp started fire - this brought her round and she fled - bought ticket to Bkk but a day later suicidal thoughts returned - goes into jungle and hangs herself - third attempt first was trying to jump in front of a train and was saved - put yourself in the mind of a tortured soul who contemplating suicide and all her actions make sense .. police delay release of story and try to suppress it as last thing they need is another ko Tao farang death reported end of story Brilliant that must have been exactly how it went! For sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogfarang Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Krenjai said: Brilliant that must have been exactly how it went! For sure! I would be the first one to say previous cases have been extremely suspicious and murders covered up as suicide - but it's ludicrous that it follows from thar that it's true of every case on koh Tao - let's see what unfolds but so far zero evidence of anything other than a poor girl that had tried to take her own life before tragically succeeding this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manhood Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Seems like in Thailand all the evidences in all killing, or murdering or self killing are just getting evidence the way how police want the evidence is should be seen from everybody! So never ever anything has an eveidence if you see how unprofessional they are handling the facts! And they all not want to see the truth as too many "big heads'" are always involved and they want to see the things handled their way! no matter of the truth! They now want to see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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