Sudden infestation

[overherebc]

Dogs clear of ticks for about 4 years and suddenly had a massive crop of them over the weekend. For sure clear on friday and on sunday covered in them.

Will try to get Nexguard today but if I cant probably front line and collars until I can find it.

They haven't been out and no other dogs in for quite a while.

[overherebc]

5 hours ago, Arjen said:

I am a happy user from Bravecto.

 

Also spray the areas where your dogs rest/sleep and eat.

 

Arjen.

 

 

Local vet today will not stock bravecto now because of adverse reactions on dogs that have had it. She qualified in USA by the way.

Dogs have about 140 talang wah to run about in so getting someone in this week to spray the area.

Used a good anti tick shampoo this morning and after they were dry put the front line on their necks and the ticks have been dropping off since.

Neighbour has moved out with his three crappy dogs, he was only there for a couple of months so after 4 years tick free I have a good idea where the ticks came from.

Just got to break the cycle again.

[meatboy]

9 hours ago, overherebc said:

Local vet today will not stock bravecto now because of adverse reactions on dogs that have had it. She qualified in USA by the way.

Dogs have about 140 talang wah to run about in so getting someone in this week to spray the area.

Used a good anti tick shampoo this morning and after they were dry put the front line on their necks and the ticks have been dropping off since.

Neighbour has moved out with his three crappy dogs, he was only there for a couple of months so after 4 years tick free I have a good idea where the ticks came from.

Just got to break the cycle again.

if the neighbour dogs moved out you can be sure that is where they came from.ticks need food so they will travel to find it.

its happened twice near us,i even saw one climbing up the neighbours wall after their dog died.to get into our garden.

we had gone about 18months without one,but sure enough we got one that was 3months ago.

so we sprayed where our boy likes to lay,also got the termite gang in to spray the whole garden.[recommended] if you do this keep the dog inside for most of the day.

[meatboy]

its almost 2yrs.since we started useing controline drops with great success.

we are 100% certain the infestation came from our neighbours dog that came over to our house every day,its 2yrs.june that he passed away,so its about 3ticks in total that we have found and i am sure where they came from,before this dog died to.nothing since.

i do sray around the bedroom skirting boards every month with bayticol.

[wildewillie89]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24593931

Above study shows comparisons of Bravecto and Frontline. I find Frontline doesn't quite do the job in Thailand. As the study shows it is not always as effective and ticks will jump at the opportunities they get. Would be a much preferred choice back home however.  

NexGard and Bravecto on the most part are safe drugs (and obviously easier/less frequent to administer). Obviously different dogs will react to different drugs no matter what the drug is, the same way humans do. But in infested areas you really don't have much of a choice unfortunately. My dog personally does better on Bravecto than NexGard. No major side effects from NexGard, just slight loss of energy and slight itching (not enough for anyone to notice except me) -  told my vet when I went in to weigh the dog to buy more Bravecto; even though the side effects were so minimal, the vet reported them to the relevant body.

If your dog has negative reactions to NexGard, can just get friends to post you Bravecto. If negative reactions to both, then it is a bit tougher. The in-laws dog used to use collars and Frontline and had ticks all over her. Now is on Bravecto, and for an old dog is loving life again. 

[wildewillie89]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4247686/

Study explains the speed at which Bravecto kills ticks (12 hours). Study also states that disease transmission does not occur immediately, and most tick-borne diseases need at least 24-48 hours of attachment to transmit. 

 

Something to think about seeing as up to 24% of dogs in a village can be infected with tick-borne diseases, and obviously high chances of co-infections. 

[overherebc]

Quite a few ticks falling off last night and during today. Some stone dead and others obviously going that way.

Frontline seems to be doing it's job.

SWMBO organising the whole garden and area for this weekend and will get the wall between us and neighbour some extra attention. Will also do a corridor outside on the sois at the house.

 As it was so sudden and we seem to have them under attack I'm hoping that they may not have had time to feed drop off and lay eggs. Garden next door I might get done as well while no-one is there before it's rented again.

Only time will tell.

[overherebc]

Quick question.

Been told that when the ticks drop off dead they can still spread eggs if they are stood on etc.

I don't quite believe it but can anyone deny or confirm it.

[wildewillie89]

I don't quite understand the question. 

However, I will say this regarding using other chemicals re infestation. Bravecto prevents infestations for 3 months, as it kills off ticks before they get a chance to lay their eggs. According to the CDC, most ticks will die when they do not find a host for their next feeding...so it will prevent infestations in the future. Therefore it is not necessary to use other insecticides in the environment. I have never seen one single tick ever on our land, but at the local school near our land there are ticks walking around everywhere (as there are non-treated hosts there - soi dogs). 

Saves having to use other chemicals around the place. For example, Cypermethrin is classified by the American Environmental Protection Agency as a 'possible human carcinogen (group C)'. The risk of getting cancer is not founded, hence the 'possible'. The risk of developing tumours in tested mice was founded. So why take the risk when we can take a proactive approach, rather than a reactive. 

[overherebc]

45 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said:

I don't quite understand the question. 

However, I will say this regarding using other chemicals re infestation. Bravecto prevents infestations for 3 months, as it kills off ticks before they get a chance to lay their eggs. According to the CDC, most ticks will die when they do not find a host for their next feeding...so it will prevent infestations in the future. Therefore it is not necessary to use other insecticides in the environment. I have never seen one single tick ever on our land, but at the local school near our land there are ticks walking around everywhere (as there are non-treated hosts there - soi dogs). 

Saves having to use other chemicals around the place. For example, Cypermethrin is classified by the American Environmental Protection Agency as a 'possible human carcinogen (group C)'. The risk of getting cancer is not founded, hence the 'possible'. The risk of developing tumours in tested mice was founded. So why take the risk when we can take a proactive approach, rather than a reactive. 

I'll word it better , if as I've been told you stand on a tick that has fed, dropped off and is about to lay eggs then I can accept that the eggs will still be viable for example on the open ground/earth.

If the tick has dropped off because it's been poisoned by the treatment you give your dog, eg the ones lying on the tiles in my drive, then I'm inclined to believe the poison will also have killed the eggs.

I have a couple of people arguing the eggs will be ok in the 2nd case.

[wildewillie89]

9 minutes ago, overherebc said:

I'll word it better , if as I've been told you stand on a tick that has fed, dropped off and is about to lay eggs then I can accept that the eggs will still be viable for example on the open ground/earth.

If the tick has dropped off because it's been poisoned by the treatment you give your dog, eg the ones lying on the tiles in my drive, then I'm inclined to believe the poison will also have killed the eggs.

I have a couple of people arguing the eggs will be ok in the 2nd case.

The eggs in the second case I would tend to agree with the people and think will be okay, but then they will die when they try to feed on the dog. A clean up of the place is required to remove the eggs, and once the dogs are treated on a regular basis there should be no more infestations again.

I have read previously the drug will have an effect on flea eggs...but cant recall anything on tick eggs.

[drtreelove]

On 7/10/2017 at 5:55 PM, Arjen said:

"My" vet is also qualified in the USA (I do not own him) He told me there is no scientific proof for the reported adverse reactions. And I never had such a good results on our dogs, as I had with Bravecto.

 

For spraying at your area use cypermethrin. It is real poison, kills all insects, so also bees, kills fish, amphibies and cats. Is harmless for humans and dogs. Usual when you buy an impregnated musquito net it is impregnated with this poison.

 

Arjen.

 

 

 

Please don't post out of context, erroneous, distorted information on pesticides. Someone might believe you. Concentrations matter. Mosquito net treatments require only very very dilute concentration of the pyrethroid, usually permethrin, that it takes to repel mosquitos. That doesn't mean that the same chemistry at much higher concentrations is not toxic for mammals. Toxicity for cats is only at a very high percentage of the active ingredient, far more than you should ever be using in a domestic environment. 

I think you will find that cypermethrin will not be effective in a ground application for tick control, especially not with a one time treatment. Tick control takes a comprehensive integrated pest management approach. 'Search', for good information. 

[overherebc]

28 minutes ago, drtreelove said:

Please don't post out of context, erroneous, distorted information on pesticides. Someone might believe you. Concentrations matter. Mosquito net treatments require only very very dilute concentration of the pyrethroid, usually permethrin, that it takes to repel mosquitos. That doesn't mean that the same chemistry at much higher concentrations is not toxic for mammals. Toxicity for cats is only at a very high percentage of the active ingredient, far more than you should ever be using in a domestic environment. 

I think you will find that cypermethrin will not be effective in a ground application for tick control, especially not with a one time treatment. Tick control takes a comprehensive integrated pest management approach. 'Search', for good information. 

Agree,

My thoughts are 'breaking the cycle' tick feeding, laying eggs, new ticks back on the dogs, feeding, falling off, laying eggs and on it goes.

I'm only trying to get an answer to a simple question so I'll ask it again.???

Will the eggs inside the tick die with the tick or will they still produce ticks even if the mother tick has been killed by the treatment you have given your dog?

The question doesn't apply to any other pest or nasty whatever or spraying sleeping areas or garden grass trees or shrubs etc etc.

Do the eggs die with the tick or not?

[wildewillie89]

Just now, overherebc said:

Agree,

My thoughts are 'breaking the cycle' tick feeding, laying eggs, new ticks back on the dogs, feeding, falling off, laying eggs and on it goes.

I'm only trying to get an answer to a simple question so I'll ask it again.???

Will the eggs inside the tick die with the tick or will they still produce ticks even if the mother tick has been killed by the treatment you have given your dog?

The question doesn't apply to any other pest or nasty whatever or spraying sleeping areas or garden grass trees or shrubs etc etc.

Do the eggs die with the tick or not?

The question has not been so simple as it has been poorly worded, but it is more understandable now.

If the tick is dead, then how is it capable of laying eggs? The tick must drop off to lay the eggs on the ground. If it has fallen off due to death then it has not had the chance to be able to lay the eggs. So I guess the eggs would die. 

However, that would require scientific experimentation to get an answer...you have an infestation, do the experiment and you will get your answer :).

[meatboy]

overherebc.asked if he was to STEP ON A DEAD TICK who was about to lay thousands of eggs would the eggs BE ALIVE OR DEAD.

now WW can you answer YES OR NO.

[wildewillie89]

Will the eggs inside the tick die with the tick or will they still produce ticks even if the mother tick has been killed by the treatment you have given your dog?

Where does the shoe come into it? If previously mis-worded questioning, then I have already said my opinion that they would probably survive. But again it is a guess. 
 

[wildewillie89]

1 minute ago, Arjen said:

Yes this was the question. And the answer is not clear yet. Your guess is the eggs will not produce live ticks. I am not sure about this, according comparisation with complete other species from animals.

 

So the only correct answer can follow after (scientific) research.

 

Arjen.

Something we can agree on finally :). 

[wildewillie89]

Seeing as the research shows that drugs such as Bravecto kill ticks before they have a chance to lay eggs, but a clean up of the house is required regarding infestation, I think that says all the OP really needs to know. The rest is not actually useful to his cause, but merely extra information.  

 

Experimentation is required to get that information. But all the information is actually doing is saving him cleaning his house. 

 

Why is this even a conversation, just clean the house (gets rid of the eggs) and treat the dog (to get rid of the 'host'). Cover all bases. If outside, then the ticks will die/leave if no hosts whether the eggs hatch or not.

[Ron19]

Two trolls a flame and replies have been removed.

[overherebc]

3 hours ago, wildewillie89 said:

Seeing as the research shows that drugs such as Bravecto kill ticks before they have a chance to lay eggs, but a clean up of the house is required regarding infestation, I think that says all the OP really needs to know. The rest is not actually useful to his cause, but merely extra information.  

 

Experimentation is required to get that information. But all the information is actually doing is saving him cleaning his house. 

 

Why is this even a conversation, just clean the house (gets rid of the eggs) and treat the dog (to get rid of the 'host'). Cover all bases. If outside, then the ticks will die/leave if no hosts whether the eggs hatch or not.

What on earth makes you think the house wouldn't be cleaned?

I reckon if you went back through the thread you might just read where I said the whole place would be sprayed this week including attention to the wall between me and the now gone next door neighbour. I might even spray next door as well as the place is empty at the moment.

Anyway good search of the dogs last night and they seem to be free of ticks at the moment.

WW dont worry I will be checking them daily for the next month.?

[wildewillie89]

15 minutes ago, overherebc said:

What on earth makes you think the house wouldn't be cleaned?

I reckon if you went back through the thread you might just read where I said the whole place would be sprayed this week including attention to the wall between me and the now gone next door neighbour. I might even spray next door as well as the place is empty at the moment.

Anyway good search of the dogs last night and they seem to be free of ticks at the moment.

WW dont worry I will be checking them daily for the next month.?

If the dogs are treated and the house is cleaned, then there is no reason to find out whether the eggs will survive or not. As if there is no host (treated dog), then it is impossible for the ticks to survive whether they hatch or not hatch (due to no food source - host). The only reason for your question would be if you were not cleaning the house. Hence, my thinking you must not be cleaning the house to pose such a question in the first place. Seeing as you are cleaning the house, I would assume the question is purely out of interest sake, than out of any relevance to your situation. 

Good to see your are checking your dogs though :). 

[overherebc]

1 minute ago, wildewillie89 said:

If the dogs are treated and the house is cleaned, then there is no reason to find out whether the eggs will survive or not. As if there is no host (treated dog), then it is impossible for the ticks to survive whether they hatch or not hatch (due to no food source - host). The only reason for your question would be if you were not cleaning the house. Hence, my thinking you must not be cleaning the house to pose such a question in the first place. Seeing as you are cleaning the house, I would assume the question is purely out of interest sake, than out of any relevance to your situation. 

Good to see your are checking your dogs though :). 

You don't half spout off don't you.

?????

[wildewillie89]

18 minutes ago, overherebc said:

You don't half spout off don't you.

?????

I find this forum utterly amazing sometimes haha.

Logic would dictate if there is nothing to eat (no blood to suck), then the animal would die regardless if it hatches or not...Would have saved a whole discussion if logic was used in the fist place.
 

"Most will die because they don't find a host for their next feeding" (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 

[cooked]

On 7/12/2017 at 11:18 AM, overherebc said:

Quick question.

Been told that when the ticks drop off dead they can still spread eggs if they are stood on etc.

I don't quite believe it but can anyone deny or confirm it.

True of course. A tick doesn't  store its eggs like a chicken. An adult can be carrying 10 to 20 000 eggs.

[cooked]

On 7/12/2017 at 2:48 PM, wildewillie89 said:

The eggs in the second case I would tend to agree with the people and think will be okay, but then they will die when they try to feed on the dog. A clean up of the place is required to remove the eggs, and once the dogs are treated on a regular basis there should be no more infestations again.

I have read previously the drug will have an effect on flea eggs...but cant recall anything on tick eggs.

The eggs of all members of the tick family, Arachnids,  are notoriously difficult to kill.

[cooked]

Firstly, we get this kind of question every year during or at the beginning of the rainy season.

Secondly, the discussion always get sidelined into discussions of different treatments.

There is NO magic bullet treatment against ticks, which are members of the Arachnid family which presents so many problems in agriculture, horticulture and animal husbandry.

 

Anyway, for the umpteenth time: 

(We have seven dogs. We fight against ticks all the time.)

They are curly haired dogs, they get regular haircuts. Some like this, some don't. Pet trimmer from Lazada.

They get tick shampoo once a week. This is the best time to look for ticks, although they all get checked over regularly. Leave the soap to dry, then rinse. Tick treatments interfere with development, which may or may not kill them, hopefully stops them incubating eggs or laying them. The eggs of the Arachnid family (ticks) are notoriously difficult to kill. The eggs of ticks can survive for two or more years until they hatch., and there are tick species that will lay up to 20 000 eggs.

Once a month: Bayticol. Instructions in the attachment.

The dog pound gets power cleaned, bleach is applied followed by treatment with Chaindrite spray. Any Bayticol left over from treating the dogs I will spray also, including the grass areas where they like to go.

In the house we spray with Chaindrite (corners, under furniture and beds, obviously being careful with food and animals).

I stopped using products like Frontline due to expense and lack of efficacy. Whatever you choose, change the product from time to time.

Tablets and injections: as far as I know, these treatments prevent tick born diseases, have limited or no effect on tick populations.

We still get ticks occasionally, but nothing like the invasion we had a few years ago.

Sounds like a lot of work and spraying of poison, but if you want healthy dogs....

 

 

 

 

 

[meatboy]

once again cooked has given us all we need to know.

[wildewillie89]

1 hour ago, cooked said:

Firstly, we get this kind of question every year during or at the beginning of the rainy season.

Secondly, the discussion always get sidelined into discussions of different treatments.

There is NO magic bullet treatment against ticks, which are members of the Arachnid family which presents so many problems in agriculture, horticulture and animal husbandry.

 

Anyway, for the umpteenth time: 

(We have seven dogs. We fight against ticks all the time.)

They are curly haired dogs, they get regular haircuts. Some like this, some don't. Pet trimmer from Lazada.

They get tick shampoo once a week. This is the best time to look for ticks, although they all get checked over regularly. Leave the soap to dry, then rinse. Tick treatments interfere with development, which may or may not kill them, hopefully stops them incubating eggs or laying them. The eggs of the Arachnid family (ticks) are notoriously difficult to kill. The eggs of ticks can survive for two or more years until they hatch., and there are tick species that will lay up to 20 000 eggs.

Once a month: Bayticol. Instructions in the attachment.

The dog pound gets power cleaned, bleach is applied followed by treatment with Chaindrite spray. Any Bayticol left over from treating the dogs I will spray also, including the grass areas where they like to go.

In the house we spray with Chaindrite (corners, under furniture and beds, obviously being careful with food and animals).

I stopped using products like Frontline due to expense and lack of efficacy. Whatever you choose, change the product from time to time.

Tablets and injections: as far as I know, these treatments prevent tick born diseases, have limited or no effect on tick populations.

We still get ticks occasionally, but nothing like the invasion we had a few years ago.

Sounds like a lot of work and spraying of poison, but if you want healthy dogs....

 

 

 

 

 

Chaindrite is classified as a 'Dangerous Good' under the Australian Dangerous Goods Code is it not? Due to it not only being flammable, but harmful to health (when inhaled - and you are spraying it around your house?). Like I said earlier, eggs are irrelevant if there is no host. A thorough clean up of the place will remove all eggs. Any eggs that are hatched will die anyway,  due to no food source (treated host) - that is not an opinion, it is stated by the CDC!

Shampooing and cutting hair once a week is not something a dog should go through due to the damage of the natural oils from frequent bathing with chemicals. Not only that, some breeds coats have been specifically designed not to be washed frequently as they repel parasites to a certain extent.

How can the treatments prevent tick borne diseases, but not have an effect on population? That is a contradiction in terms. They prevent tick borne disease as the tick is killed within 12 hours, and the diseases are transmitted with a 24-48 hour attachment. If ticks are dying within 12 hours, then that means no more host, no more eggs (no mating), no more ticks.

I wash  my dog once a year, and treat it. Have never seen a tick on it. The in-laws dog was infested with ticks (all over her face and body), and also had a tick disease (Ehrlichiosis). She was treated, now has no tick disease and no ticks. No bathing, no spraying, just treatment. No host, no food. Not only that, she lived with my dog for 6 months, my dog did not get any disease/ticks during that time due to them being killed by the treatment as soon as they tried to attach. I did get the disease however. 

This suggestion seems to be a very dangerous (to dog and human), cheap option. It also seems to be a very old school option. If the diet is right, I would almost go as far as saying even if the tick did transmit a disease (depending what it was), the dogs immune system would probably fight the disease better than the constant chemicals it endures....not a healthy option at all in my opinion.

[cooked]

3 hours ago, wildewillie89 said:

Chaindrite is classified as a 'Dangerous Good' under the Australian Dangerous Goods Code is it not? Due to it not only being flammable, but harmful to health (when inhaled - and you are spraying it around your house?). Like I said earlier, eggs are irrelevant if there is no host. A thorough clean up of the place will remove all eggs. Any eggs that are hatched will die anyway,  due to no food source (treated host) - that is not an opinion, it is stated by the CDC!

Shampooing and cutting hair once a week is not something a dog should go through due to the damage of the natural oils from frequent bathing with chemicals. Not only that, some breeds coats have been specifically designed not to be washed frequently as they repel parasites to a certain extent.

How can the treatments prevent tick borne diseases, but not have an effect on population? That is a contradiction in terms. They prevent tick borne disease as the tick is killed within 12 hours, and the diseases are transmitted with a 24-48 hour attachment. If ticks are dying within 12 hours, then that means no more host, no more eggs (no mating), no more ticks.

I wash  my dog once a year, and treat it. Have never seen a tick on it. The in-laws dog was infested with ticks (all over her face and body), and also had a tick disease (Ehrlichiosis). She was treated, now has no tick disease and no ticks. No bathing, no spraying, just treatment. No host, no food. Not only that, she lived with my dog for 6 months, my dog did not get any disease/ticks during that time due to them being killed by the treatment as soon as they tried to attach. I did get the disease however. 

This suggestion seems to be a very dangerous (to dog and human), cheap option. It also seems to be a very old school option. If the diet is right, I would almost go as far as saying even if the tick did transmit a disease (depending what it was), the dogs immune system would probably fight the disease better than the constant chemicals it endures....not a healthy option at all in my opinion.

Well good for you.

All products for killing ticks are dangerous, which is why you should use common sense while using them.

A 'thorough clean up' is not going to remove eggs from behind skirting boards, in textiles and above ceilings,, is it? Do you plan on doing a 'thorough clean up' once a week or once a year?

 Cutting their hair and thus preventing 'partial protection' seems a small price to pay. Been doing it for four years now and have seen NO ill effects.

Your remark concerning tick born diseases is strange. The injections given to dogs don't kill ticks. As I mentioned, the treatments such as Frontline and others don't work for everyone and relying 100% on them without checking up isn't a good idea. A dog , even a well fed and healthy dog, will not survive many tick borne diseases. Maybe you aren't acquainted with that fact.

I don't know where you live but we are on a farm with all sorts of animals meeting ours. The neighbours' dogs are generally mangy and tick ridden. Ours are clean.

I suggest you visit a house containing thousands of ticks, most of them hidden where you can't indulge in a 'thorough clean up'.

Our house transformed into that seemingly overnight and I just described how I got rid of them.

 

[wildewillie89]

1 hour ago, cooked said:

Well good for you.

All products for killing ticks are dangerous, which is why you should use common sense while using them.

A 'thorough clean up' is not going to remove eggs from behind skirting boards, in textiles and above ceilings,, is it? Do you plan on doing a 'thorough clean up' once a week or once a year?

 Cutting their hair and thus preventing 'partial protection' seems a small price to pay. Been doing it for four years now and have seen NO ill effects.

Your remark concerning tick born diseases is strange. The injections given to dogs don't kill ticks. As I mentioned, the treatments such as Frontline and others don't work for everyone and relying 100% on them without checking up isn't a good idea. A dog , even a well fed and healthy dog, will not survive many tick borne diseases. Maybe you aren't acquainted with that fact.

I don't know where you live but we are on a farm with all sorts of animals meeting ours. The neighbours' dogs are generally mangy and tick ridden. Ours are clean.

I suggest you visit a house containing thousands of ticks, most of them hidden where you can't indulge in a 'thorough clean up'.

Our house transformed into that seemingly overnight and I just described how I got rid of them.

 

If there is no host then even if the eggs hatch, then the ticks will die (as the American Centers for Disease Control and Prevention states), and I emphasis the 'Prevention' part of the department. You think eggs that form into ticks can survive without a host? Survive without feeding? 

 

If there is no hosts, usually  you will find there is no infestations. It is why tick treatments advertise as avoiding future 'thorough' clean-ups if you keep up to date with the treatment. If an owner forgets to treat their animal, then that is when clean ups will need to occur due to infestations. So it is purely on the owner, rather than the treatment (depending on which treatment is used). Science doesn't lie as much as humans do fortunately, or as much as humans forget to treat their animals/choose not to treat them.  

I have previously posted studies on different types of treatments and their efficiency, and also tick borne diseases in this thread. I suggest you read them. They are scientific research papers, not opinions. Dogs are clinically infested at different times throughout the specific time periods to see how efficient these treatments are. 

Will not survive many tick borne diseases? Take Ehrlichiosis for example, one of the most common diseases in Thailand. Mahidol University (Thai's number one uni), state Rickettsia (which Ehrilichiosis is) and Babesia as the two main diseases threatening pets and humans in Thailand. Ehrlichiosis has three stages in animals; acute, sub-clinical and chronic. Healthy dogs will generally eliminate the bacteria at the sub-clinical stage. Those who are fed proper immune boosting diets anyway. Even in Thailand, with poor diets, like my in-laws dog - only a routine blood test confirmed the disease (the vet also said more often that not there is no symptoms in animals compared to humans). And Doxy treated it. So I am not sure where you got your information from, but please don't claim 'fact'.   

 

I live in rural Issan on a rai of land, with two houses opposite me, and farm land all around me. Stray dogs, soi dogs, house dogs, cows, rats (Leptospirosis and Ehrlichiosis cases in humans right next to my house) etc are all frequent passer-bys. The dog is also walked on a daily basis through farm land and also the local village (interacts with street dogs). Healthy diet helps tick borne diseases and Leptospirosis be passed through the body, without serious complications. 

Like I have said earlier, prevention is the key to avoiding infestations, not reaction. As reaction is a lot more dangerous than prevention. All it takes is consistently not allowing a host around the area (treating the dog). If you forget/choose not to like you seem to do, then I have no doubt there will be infestations.