webfact Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 France's economy minister tells Britain - 'We want our money back' French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire leaves after the weekly cabinet meeting at the Elysee Palace in Paris, France, July 19, 2017. REUTERS/Gonzalo Fuentes PARIS (Reuters) - French Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire said on Thursday that Britain must pay what it owes to the European Union and it is a non-negotiable prerequisite for Brexit talks. "I will say what Margaret Thatcher used to say: We want our money back," Le Maire said, answering questions from lawmakers in the economic affairs committee of the French parliament. "We can always debate on the amount but on the fact that the United Kingdom must pay what it owes to the budget of the European Union, it is a non-negotiable prerequisite at the start of the (Brexit) discussions," Le Maire said. The EU wants London to accept a bill to cover its share of EU spending commitments made while Britain was a member, an amount which Le Maire said could be up to 100 billion euros (88.34 billion pounds). "The payment by the United Kingdom of its remainder ... is a non-negotiable prerequisite for any discussion of the future of our relations," he added. (Reporting by Yann Le Guernigou; Writing by Bate Felix; Editing by Alison Williams) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-07-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 How about we take out the cost of liberating your country from the Nazis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dave67 said: How about we take out the cost of liberating your country from the Nazis Because that was done purely for the benefit of France and not the least bit out of self-interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 How about the 90 bullion that stolen from the E.U.every year? And they know the countries involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 50 minutes ago, clockman said: How about the 90 bullion that stolen from the E.U.every year? And they know the countries involved? Got any links to provide to support your assertion? I did a google search and nothing came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: Got any links to provide to support your assertion? I did a google search and nothing came up. Just check corruption across E.U. breathtaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabphil Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Tell em to go get stuffed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezy86 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Dave67 said: How about we take out the cost of liberating your country from the Nazis And we bailed em out in the First World War how about reparations for that!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, clockman said: Just check corruption across E.U. breathtaking. In other words, you just made up your assertion about 90 billion in fraud. Considering that the EU's total budget is about 140 billion, it's obvious that your assertion is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, fabphil said: Tell em to go get stuffed.... The proper terminology is " go whistle " according to the UK foreign minister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Dave67 said: How about we take out the cost of liberating your country from the Nazis A deal is a deal. If UK went in on an agreement, then it should honor that agreement. Dragging up stuff from 70 yrs ago is not helpful. Plus, Britain was attacked in WWII, so it was in their interest to counter-attack the attackers. It so happened that much of that counter-attack was on French soil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezy86 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 A deal is a deal. If UK went in on an agreement, then it should honor that agreement. Dragging up stuff from 70 yrs ago is not helpful. Plus, Britain was attacked in WWII, so it was in their interest to counter-attack the attackers. It so happened that much of that counter-attack was on French soil. David Davis the U.K. chief negotiator is a Yorkshireman like myself and we are renowned for being frugal .He won't pay a penny more than he needs to to the EU. Just to put the record straight England declared war on Germany because they invaded Poland they weren't attacked by the Germans.Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Dave67 said: How about we take out the cost of liberating your country from the Nazis 21 minutes ago, chezy86 said: And we bailed em out in the First World War how about reparations for that!. why not go all the way back to Stonehenge, who paid for that I ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 32 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: A deal is a deal. If UK went in on an agreement, then it should honor that agreement. Dragging up stuff from 70 yrs ago is not helpful. Plus, Britain was attacked in WWII, so it was in their interest to counter-attack the attackers. It so happened that much of that counter-attack was on French soil. Yes and didn't De Gualle deny us membership of the EU because he thought we didn't have enough money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: why not go all the way back to Stonehenge, who paid for that I ask? Druids, Welsh Remainers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: A deal is a deal. If UK went in on an agreement, then it should honor that agreement. Dragging up stuff from 70 yrs ago is not helpful. Plus, Britain was attacked in WWII, so it was in their interest to counter-attack the attackers. It so happened that much of that counter-attack was on French soil. well yes a deal is a deal but that deal only remains in place while we are a member of the club, the EU want the UK to continue with contributions after we have cancelled our membership - sorry but it doesn't work like that. If a country like Poland left would they still be entitled to financial support ?...............no they wouldn't because they left the club. The EU (Germany) know full well it cannot survive without the contribution from the UK, it leaves a massive financial hole that neither Germany or France are willing to fill, as far as they are concerned there are only 3 options right now. 1. Cause so much instability in the UK that it will implode on itself and stop the brexit process, one method to achieve that might be to force the UK to walk away from the talks after putting up serious roadblocks - the outrageous brexit bill demand is a fine example, if they are going to insist on this huge ridiculous amount of money then the talks will go no further. 2. If brexit goes ahead make sure that the UK continues to contribute even though it has left . 3. Collapse of the EU the Euro and Germany and France going it alone protecting their own interests. There are divisive elements at work in the UK and that is pretty clear including certain media groups and others who want to see the whole thing collapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissables Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: A deal is a deal. If UK went in on an agreement, then it should honor that agreement. Dragging up stuff from 70 yrs ago is not helpful. Plus, Britain was attacked in WWII, so it was in their interest to counter-attack the attackers. It so happened that much of that counter-attack was on French soil. The UK are not legally bound to pay anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Give them the Churchill V sign Edited July 20, 2017 by LannaGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 terrabul thoz ffrench peepul. KaRNT EEVN rite inglish propa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 It is well known that France does not like the English and we do not like them. Government back stabbers. They cannot get over that they have never been able to beat us in any of the wars we had against each other for hundreds of years. Churchill and US President never trusted them. The Vichie joined the Germans. We sent an expiditionery force to France to help them, we saved them in WW1 &11. they owe us a great deal. France gets so much funding from the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 39 minutes ago, chezy86 said: David Davis the U.K. chief negotiator is a Yorkshireman like myself and we are renowned for being frugal .He won't pay a penny more than he needs to to the EU. Just to put the record straight England declared war on Germany because they invaded Poland they weren't attacked by the Germans. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Technically true,, but only in terms of declarations of war, which are not actual "attacks". The French and BEF (British Expeditionary Force) were in fact attacked by the Germans. Prior to that was the "Phoney War" or Sitzkrieg, lasting from 1 SEP 1939 (the invasion of Poland; Britain declared war two days later on the 3rd) until the German attack on France and the low countries on 10 May 1940, during which there were no hostilities (hence the name). So your statement that "they weren't attacked by the Germans" is patently false; they in fact most certainly and famously were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, smedly said: The EU (Germany) know full well it cannot survive without the contribution from the UK, it leaves a massive financial hole that neither Germany or France are willing to fill, as far as they are concerned there are only 3 options right now. The UK net contribution to the EU is about 8 billion Euros. Germany's budget surplus was more than that. Not exactly a massive financial hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, shaurene said: France gets so much funding from the EU. France is a big net contributor to the EU. In 2014, the latest year I could find figures for, France's net contribution was about 7 billion euros. The UK's was about 4 billion euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Its all hyperbole and sword rattling. If no deal is achieved we still leave and both sides lose . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, clockman said: Just check corruption across E.U. breathtaking. And still no evidence. Links?...Citations?... Anything?... No?, We'll move on then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aforek Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: France is a big net contributor to the EU. In 2014, the latest year I could find figures for, France's net contribution was about 7 billion euros. The UK's was about 4 billion euros. From many months now, everytime the discussion comes to Brexit, English people on this forum are very subjective and give many wrong informations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Aforek said: From many months now, everytime the discussion comes to Brexit, English people on this forum are very subjective and give many wrong informations That is because they were fed wrong information before the referendum lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, klauskunkel said: why not go all the way back to Stonehenge, who paid for that I ask? well many of the stones came from Wales , so not sure . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 hours ago, webfact said: 'We want our money back' cmon, that's funny; not out of line with french thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: France is a big net contributor to the EU. In 2014, the latest year I could find figures for, France's net contribution was about 7 billion euros. The UK's was about 4 billion euros. Not correct , Uk is a far bigger net contributor, even allowing for our rebate.Literally dozens of articles confirm this via a simple google search , data up to 2015/16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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