Forces monitoring groups as Yingluck verdict nears

[rooster59]

Forces monitoring groups as Yingluck verdict nears

By THE SUNDAY NATION

 

 

AUTHORITIES ARE closely following movements by certain groups of people ahead of the Supreme Court verdict in the case against former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra scheduled to be read late next month, according to a source in the ruling junta.

Army commander-in-chief General Chalermchai Sitthisart, in his capacity as secretary to the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), has instructed the local peacekeeping forces to monitor the movements of “all groups involved” over the next month, until the verdict is issued, the source said yesterday.

 

The commanders of all four “army areas” in the main regions of the country have been assigned to make sure any suspicious movements are under their microscope, according to the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

 

If the local peacekeeping forces, which were formed after the military coup in 2014, discovered any plan to mobilise large groups of people into Bangkok, they would need to persuade their leaders to cancel such a trip, the source said.

 

“The forces should try to explain that the justice process must be respected. There must be no attempt to pressure the court with large numbers of people. Nobody must be above the law,” the source said.

 

After months of a trial on a case against Yingluck, the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division on Political Office Holders on Friday scheduled August 25 for the reading of its verdict. 

 

The case stemmed from the previous Pheu Thai Party-led government’s corruption-plagued rice-pledging scheme, which was estimated to have caused at least Bt500 billion in damage to the country.

 

Military officers have been dispatched to different areas of the country in an attempt to persuade Yingluck’s supporters not to come to Bangkok when the court issues its ruling, the source said yesterday. They are going to meet with local community leaders and administrators and ask them to “create a better understanding” among the local residents.

 

“We ask for cooperation. There should be no mobilisation of the masses, otherwise there could be unrest in the country,” the source added.

All the groups of people involved should respect any decision by the court, whatever the verdict will be, he said.

 

“It remains unclear now if people will be mobilised from the provinces into Bangkok. The NCPO is monitoring the situation. It will be clear when the [verdict] is nearer,” the source said.

 

“We believe that part of the supporters travel here because they love Khun Yingluck and want to offer her moral support. But if it is not really necessary, they should follow the news at home,” the source commented.

 

Hundreds of Yingluck’s supporters gathered at the high court last Friday during the last hearing of the case against her. 

 

Some Democrat Party politicians claimed yesterday that many of the supporters travelled together in an arranged trip from the northeastern provinces of Ubon Ratchathani and Amnat Charoen.

 

A large number of Yingluck’s supporters are expected to show up at the court building again on August 25, when the verdict is scheduled to be read.

 

Meanwhile, Somchai Sawangkan, a member of the National Legislative Assembly (NLA), said yesterday that he has learned of a plot to incite riots in a bid to overthrow the government and the NCPO.

 

“In August, the political situation will be volatile. The rice-pledging scheme case is high stakes and has high pressure. Some people want to show support for their political party ahead of the next election,” Somchai said.

 

“They will try to bring down the government and the NCPO through riots. Hard-core groups that are their allies have clearly said that they want to wage a ‘people’s war’,” he added.

 

Somchai warned that such a plot could lead to unrest and further damage to the economy and the country as a whole.

 

He claimed to have “information” that people from the North, Northeast and certain provinces near Bangkok would be mobilised to gather in the capital on August 1 when Yingluck is to make the defence’s closing statement for the case, and again on the verdict-reading day of August 25.

“They will try to mobilise as many as 10,000 people” for the August 25 gathering, Somchai said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30321530

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-07-23

[Bluespunk]

32 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

“The forces should try to explain that the justice process must be respected. There must be no attempt to pressure the court with large numbers of people. Nobody must be above the law,” the source said.

Ah, the irony of it all. 

Edited July 22, 2017 by Bluespunk

[leeneeds]

I am sure every body  has the time and money to waste on a trip to Bangkok,

A 5 year ban from politics, would that be enough for the Junta.

 

Governments everywhere waste monies on failed scheems and  investments,

a classic in Australia is there rolling out the NBN national broadband network,  

14 odd billion so every household can connect to the internet, a slow, down load speed that Many countries 

who do not have the smarts supposedly or money have far superior internet speed Thailand being one of them.

 

 With some of their purchases, this current government could be accused of the same wastage.

 

 

[canuckamuck]

1 hour ago, leeneeds said:

I am sure every body  has the time and money to waste on a trip to Bangkok,

A 5 year ban from politics, would that be enough for the Junta.

 

Governments everywhere waste monies on failed scheems and  investments,

a classic in Australia is there rolling out the NBN national broadband network,  

14 odd billion so every household can connect to the internet, a slow, down load speed that Many countries 

who do not have the smarts supposedly or money have far superior internet speed Thailand being one of them.

 

 With some of their purchases, this current government could be accused of the same wastage.

 

 

The submarines make the rice deal look like petty cash.

[Samui Bodoh]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

“The forces should try to explain that the justice process must be respected.

 

If you want the process of justice to be respected, you must have a respectable process of justice.

 

Doh!

 

[yellowboat]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

"Nobody must be above the law,” the source said.

Accept for those who are actually well above the law. 

[williamgeorgeallen]

7 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

The submarines make the rice deal look like petty cash.

was just thinking they should have not announced the yingluck trial verdict the same way they forgot to announce buying the subs. things are going to start getting more interesting if yingluck is given jail time. unlikely i guess.

[robblok]

7 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

The submarines make the rice deal look like petty cash.

36 billion vs 500 billion not really.. I wish it were.. But I do agree the subs are a waste of money,

 

I do hope they keep all those red shirts out of BKK this time. Would not want them to cause trouble again. 

[stephen tracy]

The junta are terrified.

[Cadbury]

5 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

The junta are terrified.

I bet they're wishing they had those tanks and armoured personnel carriers they've got coming. Not hard now to figure out why they ordered them. 

I am sure they still have those military riot-buster water cannon trucks they had on hand during the red shirt occupancy of the centre of Bangkok.

[sujoop]

note in the 'other' paper Red Shirt leader Weng is making familiar threats again (paraphrasing)  that on Aug 1 and 25 the turnout will be bigger (if the Govt tries to prevent them) and then the 'handling of people'  coming to the court on those days 'will be difficult'  and finally stating that  'If mistakes happen',  the Govt will cause damage to themselves'..... (sounds like a veiled threat or the outline of a plan to do something and blame the Govt/Army?)

 

One wonders what the Red Shirt leader is either party to, or has prior knowledge of? (seen this movie before, usually really kicks off following seizure of 'family' funds, or losing a court case that didn't get swayed by a pastry bag full of cash  delivered via Thaksin's lawyer ). One also wonders if Thaksin will once again take to the the airwaves and beseech supporters to 'Come to protest and bring YOUR kids'  (while his kids all jetted off on sudden overseas shopping junkets in 1st class... and Chalerm to Singapore) last time just before all heck broke out after confiscation of Shinawtra 'family' assets.

[TKDfella]

Is it the verdict day that is dangerous? I would have thought perhaps the days after the verdict is where the problems could start...if there are going to problems, that is.

[hansnl]

1 hour ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

was just thinking they should have not announced the yingluck trial verdict the same way they forgot to announce buying the subs. things are going to start getting more interesting if yingluck is given jail time. unlikely i guess.

Interesting as in civil unrest, you mean?

[Pridilives]

1 minute ago, hansnl said:

Interesting as in civil unrest, you mean?

Nothing happen because close to big event in octobers. Just many people come show support for remind junta not to jail yingluck.

[natway09]

Interesting comments on here.

Must be remembered that she was only doing the bidding of the big brother  (Mayor of Dubai)

[Eric Loh]

20 hours ago, sujoop said:

note in the 'other' paper Red Shirt leader Weng is making familiar threats again (paraphrasing)  that on Aug 1 and 25 the turnout will be bigger (if the Govt tries to prevent them) and then the 'handling of people'  coming to the court on those days 'will be difficult'  and finally stating that  'If mistakes happen',  the Govt will cause damage to themselves'..... (sounds like a veiled threat or the outline of a plan to do something and blame the Govt/Army?)

 

One wonders what the Red Shirt leader is either party to, or has prior knowledge of? (seen this movie before, usually really kicks off following seizure of 'family' funds, or losing a court case that didn't get swayed by a pastry bag full of cash  delivered via Thaksin's lawyer ). One also wonders if Thaksin will once again take to the the airwaves and beseech supporters to 'Come to protest and bring YOUR kids'  (while his kids all jetted off on sudden overseas shopping junkets in 1st class... and Chalerm to Singapore) last time just before all heck broke out after confiscation of Shinawtra 'family' assets.

Mistakes already happened when they stage the coup and go after their political enemies. Double that up with similar subsidy schemes and huge wastage of tax payer monies by going against public sentiment and purchasing the military hardware.  Now they angered a lot of their own supporters. Thaksin can stay low as things can happen spontaneously over the increasingly unpopular junta government. 

[robblok]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Mistakes already happened when they stage the coup and go after their political enemies. Double that up with similar subsidy schemes and huge wastage of tax payer monies by going against public sentiment and purchasing the military hardware.  Now they angered a lot of their own supporters. Thaksin can stay low as things can happen spontaneously over the increasingly unpopular junta government. 

Ah as long as the army uses force on those that deploy violence things will be ok. I would advise those that are peaceful to stay away from those that are violent because accidents do happen and can't blame the army then. Its a risky event and if there are those that promote violence hide between the peaceful then they are 100% responsible. Though I am sure the red leaders wont mind a few martyrs for the red cause as long as its not them. 

[Baerboxer]

On 7/23/2017 at 6:31 AM, canuckamuck said:

The submarines make the rice deal look like petty cash.

 

No, wrong actually. The submarines value aren't even close to the amounts of unaccounted for cash that's somehow absorbed in the rice scheme.

 

But, the subs, the armored personnel carriers, the new fighter jets are all being bought on budget and accounted for. The rice scheme was deliberately taken off budget, out of parliamentary scrutiny and of course repeatedly touted as being self financing. Had the idea to control world rice prices worked there would probably been enough money swilling around to pay the farmers, all the boys in the middle, the scammers and still have some for the back pocket. A win win nice little earner. And all out of sight. But it was an idea that was never gonna happen. 

Had PTP kept the rice scheme as part of the government budget, had YS attended and chaired the meetings and had some real actions been taken to check the mismanagement and frauds then PTP would be clear and just another example of a government who tried and failed.  But they didn't.

 

 

[Baerboxer]

21 hours ago, Pridilives said:

Nothing happen because close to big event in octobers. Just many people come show support for remind junta not to jail yingluck.

 

"not to jail Yingluck".

 

Surely the Judges will decide that? Or are you suggesting mob rule is better, providing it's your mob of course?

Edited July 24, 2017 by Baerboxer

[seajae]

41 minutes ago, Pridilives said:

How much cash is unaccount for. You have any link for information or you just parrot propaganda anti democracy side?

 

funny I read whole thread where one poster show rice scheme never off budget. Thread have many link for show on budget. So you just parrot another lie.

seems you are the one full of propaganda & lies, always claiming everyone else is wrong while not putting up one iota of evidence to support you crap claims. If it was on budget why hadnt they paid all the farmers before they were kicked out, why was there billions missing, why did the warehouses have false frames inside the piles to make it look like more rice, why was the govt selling rice to be resold back at a higher price etc, if you were here you would know the truth like everyone else that was. Your broken english doesnt fool anybody, good ploy to try to garner favour but still pathetic

[robblok]

1 minute ago, seajae said:

seems you are the one full of propaganda & lies, always claiming everyone else is wrong while not putting up one iota of evidence to support you crap claims. If it was on budget why hadnt they paid all the farmers before they were kicked out, why was there billions missing, why did the warehouses have false frames inside the piles to make it look like more rice, why was the govt selling rice to be resold back at a higher price etc, if you were here you would know the truth like everyone else that was. Your broken english doesnt fool anybody, good ploy to try to garner favour but still pathetic

Even posters like Smarter than You seem respectable compared to Pridilives

[Baerboxer]

54 minutes ago, Pridilives said:

How much cash is unaccount for. You have any link for information or you just parrot propaganda anti democracy side?

 

funny I read whole thread where one poster show rice scheme never off budget. Thread have many link for show on budget. So you just parrot another lie.

 

Stop insulting me. You are required to confirm to the forum rules, as all posters are.

 

Stop posting utter nonsense; or provide the links that show the rice scheme budget, it's performance against budget and the accounts that verify it.

 

Show us the sources of your claims or stop peddling your propaganda.

 

Up to now you have never provided any source to support any of your opinionated assertions and simply fall back on rudely insulting others. 

Edited July 24, 2017 by Baerboxer

[Pridilives]

7 minutes ago, seajae said:

seems you are the one full of propaganda & lies, always claiming everyone else is wrong while not putting up one iota of evidence to support you crap claims. If it was on budget why hadnt they paid all the farmers before they were kicked out, why was there billions missing, why did the warehouses have false frames inside the piles to make it look like more rice, why was the govt selling rice to be resold back at a higher price etc, if you were here you would know the truth like everyone else that was. Your broken english doesnt fool anybody, good ploy to try to garner favour but still pathetic

You ever read book called black swan? Before everybody in England only ever see white swan so believe never be such thing as black swan. Then when English people go Australia they see black swan. Just take one black swan for prove wrong all swan only white. 

 

It it just take one reputable link say rice scheme off budget and nobody can argue.

 

please put link and teach me something.

[Baerboxer]

55 minutes ago, Pridilives said:

Judge in pocket people behind prayuth. They make decision best for junta not about law. Junta know if jail yingluck big big problem for them because it be straw that break camel back. My opinion Junta too scared for jail yingluck.

 

Yeah right.

 

Thaksin, Yingluck and all their sibblings - all totally innocent, never ever done anything wrong in their lives never ever. Honest as the day is long, and always only ever give never take. 

 

Sure, if you say so,

[Baerboxer]

1 minute ago, Pridilives said:

You ever read book called black swan? Before everybody in England only ever see white swan so believe never be such thing as black swan. Then when English people go Australia they see black swan. Just take one black swan for prove wrong all swan only white. 

 

It it just take one reputable link say rice scheme off budget and nobody can argue.

 

please put link and teach me something.

 

Do you actually know what off budget means?

 

The rice scheme was not included in the PTP regimes budget as it was considered a self financing instrument. 

 

Are you seriously deny that and claiming that it was really included in the budgets put forward and debated by parliament?

 

If so then prove it. 

[Pridilives]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Yeah right.

 

Thaksin, Yingluck and all their sibblings - all totally innocent, never ever done anything wrong in their lives never ever. Honest as the day is long, and always only ever give never take. 

 

Sure, if you say so,

Hard for say they do crime or not because cannot have any faith in judicial system.

i do think not wise talk in absolutes though. Nobody perfect good nobody perfect bad.

 

 

[Pridilives]

Just now, Baerboxer said:

 

Do you actually know what off budget means?

 

The rice scheme was not included in the PTP regimes budget as it was considered a self financing instrument. 

 

Are you seriously deny that and claiming that it was really included in the budgets put forward and debated by parliament?

 

If so then prove it. 

Just one link and I retract everything say sorry and say thank you for teach me something.

 

just one link

[Baerboxer]

Just now, Pridilives said:

Hard for say they do crime or not because cannot have any faith in judicial system.

i do think not wise talk in absolutes though. Nobody perfect good nobody perfect bad.

 

 

 

And you can't have democracy without a robust impartial effective justice system.

[Pridilives]

Just now, Baerboxer said:

 

And you can't have democracy without a robust impartial effective justice system.

You can't have robust impartial effective justice system without first have democracy. Look at Thailand system been built from 80 year no democracy and judicial system is garbage. 

[Rimmer]

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