Medical report for O-A visa

[Langsuan Man]

You can probably get around the notary requirement by using a notarized cover letter like those applying to Los Angeles do

 

 Which basically states that you are submitting documents and are certifying in front of a notary that the documents are original and satisfy the visa requirements 

 

Only LA and Chicago have this notary requirement,  Washington Embassy and New York Consulate do not, unfortunately they enforce the geographic residence requirement so you must apply to the Thai Embassy or Consulate located in your area

[madisongy]

Many thanks for all the great info and replies here.   Got medical, criminal certs, and transferred funds around so my statements on Feb 15 should qualify.   I'll head to the bank and have it all notarized.

 

One final question, sorry if off topic from the medical, noticed above someone indicated confirmed air tickets are required.   Chicago listed an "itinerary", and I assumed I could send them a printout of my intended flight itinerary.   Obviously if I get the visa, my return air ticket will be different than if they reject my application.   

 

Can someone clarify on this?    Will I need to buy the ticket and bite the bullet on the penalty if the visa is not approved?

[ubonjoe]

3 hours ago, madisongy said:

 Chicago listed an "itinerary", and I assumed I could send them a printout of my intended flight itinerary. 

I see no mention of a ticket or itinerary being needed for a OA visa here. http://www.thaiconsulatechicago.org/pages-non-immigrant-visa-eng.html

The only visa that they mention a ticket for is for a tourist visa.

[madisongy]

38 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I see no mention of a ticket or itinerary being needed for a OA visa here. http://www.thaiconsulatechicago.org/pages-non-immigrant-visa-eng.html

The only visa that they mention a ticket for is for a tourist visa.

Thanks for the response Ubonjoe, I've read a lot of your posts and always very great information.

 

Tanoshi had previously sent me the following link, which seems to outline what's required for all visas as "General Requirements"....Item 1....which shows "flight itinerary".   Additionally, the application form requests "arrival date", "flight number".   I figured that a planned itinerary was good enough, but saw a post earlier in this thread indicating copies of confirmed tickets were required.   I did not see that specific requirement on Chicago site, but hate to screw up the application for that.

http://www.thaiconsulatechicago.org/pages-visa.html

 

[ubonjoe]

24 minutes ago, madisongy said:

Additionally, the application form requests "arrival date", "flight number".   I figured that a planned itinerary was good enough, but saw a post earlier in this thread indicating copies of confirmed tickets were required. 

General requirements can be a little misleading since that includes tourist visas. Normally tickets are not required for non immigrant visas.

A itenary should be enough.

[gk10002000]

On 8/16/2017 at 9:40 PM, asiaexpat said:

So the Consulate does not require what it states on their web site:

LONG STAY (O-A) : LIVING A RETIREMENT LIFE IN THAILAND OR TRAVEL TO THAILAND FOR

      A LONG STAY

          1. Original and Three copies of passport valid for at least 18 months

          2. Three completed and signed application forms.

          3. Three passport-size photographs (2” x 2” inches)      

          4. Proof of money deposit from a bank certifying the amount equal to or no less than US$23,000, OR proof of income statement from a paying organization certifying no less than US$1,900 per month. 

          5. Three copies of criminal records in good conduct issued by local police, or state police department, or FBI. The record issued by an private business providing background check service may be accepted if conducted by an FBI-Approved Channeler. Verification must be recent, not more than three months.

          6. Three copies of medical certificate form completed by a doctor in the country of application reporting no prohibitive diseases. The certificate forms must be less than three months.

          7. Three copies of confirmed air ticket and accommodation in Thailand

          8. Visa fee      

As for the income, my primary bank is Etrade, and they said they would issue a letter certifying the income based on their income estimator which calculates the income based on the dividends and interest the equities I hold pay out.  I didn't ask about the funds on deposit but I assume they would do the same thing or I could print out my portfolio balance on day x in front of a notary and I am sure he would notarize it if needed.  But where does anybody see what "certified" means or where a notary is required?  Is that just from experience?

 

Thanks

[madisongy]

14 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

  But where does anybody see what "certified" means or where a notary is required?  Is that just from experience?

 

Thanks

GK, some of the folks here have posted that some Consulates/Embassies require the notary, and some do not.   I am applying through Chicago...they require all the docs notarized.   Medical form was a bit of a bear, but managed to find a doc with a notary.   Others should be easy as I'm going to sign each indicating that they are true and correct documents, and have the notary stamp them.   

 

see the retirement section at the following link.

http://www.thaiconsulatechicago.org/pages-non-immigrant-visa-eng.html

[Tanoshi]

51 minutes ago, madisongy said:

Thanks for the response Ubonjoe, I've read a lot of your posts and always very great information.

 

Tanoshi had previously sent me the following link, which seems to outline what's required for all visas as "General Requirements"....Item 1....which shows "flight itinerary".   Additionally, the application form requests "arrival date", "flight number".   I figured that a planned itinerary was good enough, but saw a post earlier in this thread indicating copies of confirmed tickets were required.   I did not see that specific requirement on Chicago site, but hate to screw up the application for that.

http://www.thaiconsulatechicago.org/pages-visa.html

 

Agree with Joe.

If you look at the specifics for the different Visas there is no mention of flight itinerary for the O-A Visa which is a Non Imm type Visa.

Flight itinerary is only required for a Tourist Visa.

VII. Retirement in Thailand, the applicant must be at least 50 years old and must submit documents as follows :

• documentation showing proof of retirement.
• bank statement or monthly/year income.
• a copy of the applicant’s criminal record from the local police department.
• a certificate of health.

*These documents must be certified by a Notary Public and certify true signature of the notary public by the Secretary of State.

http://www.thaiconsulatechicago.org/pages-non-immigrant-visa-eng.html

[madisongy]

1 minute ago, Tanoshi said:

Agree with Joe.

If you look at the specifics for the different Visas there is no mention of flight itinerary for the O-A Visa which is a Non Imm type Visa.

Flight itinerary is only required for a Tourist Visa.

Thanks for this.   So exclude the itinerary entirely, rather than submitting a planned itinerary.   I'll stick with the original thought on the application to list my projected departure date from USA.   Hopefully, three weeks from today.

I think I've got all the ducks in a row for submission in two days........you gents are extremely helpful.   

[Tanoshi]

6 minutes ago, madisongy said:

Thanks for this.   So exclude the itinerary entirely, rather than submitting a planned itinerary.   I'll stick with the original thought on the application to list my projected departure date from USA.   Hopefully, three weeks from today.

I think I've got all the ducks in a row for submission in two days........you gents are extremely helpful.   

Tourist Visas are limited to 60 days permission to stay (although a 30 day extension is available) so they usually want to see a flight itinerary with a return date.

The Non Imm O-A Visa allows a 1 year entry and if you exit and re-enter Thailand just before the 'enter before' date of the Visa you will be granted another 1 year permission to stay. You could alternatively visit surrounding Countries numerous times returning to Thailand each time. It's impossible to provide a flight itinerary for your possible plans over the next two years.

 

Quite often, those with a Non Imm O-A Visa will obtain an annual extension of stay from local Immigration at the end of that Visa.

[madisongy]

5 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

The Non Imm O-A Visa allows a 1 year entry and if you exit and re-enter Thailand just before the 'enter before' date of the Visa you will be granted another 1 year permission to stay.

I've tried to stay more focused on the application, but I've seen this issue raised a number of times, so good point to ask for clarification.   

Does the 1 year validity begin upon issuance of the visa, or upon first entry to Thailand?

Is the "enter before" date effectively the end of the first year of validity?

How many days before the "enter before" date will they grant another 1 year permission ?    

 

My plan would be to stay in Thailand for the first three 90 day reporting periods.   I'll depart just after the third reporting period, to the US for Christmas.   My thought was to stay in US for 10 weeks, so that I renter Thailand prior to the end of my first year of visa validity.   Are you saying that if I do this, they extend the visa automatically......no application, no fees......for an additional year?   

[lopburi3]

Visa is valid for one year from date of issue - any entry during that time receives a one year permitted to stay stamp - so if you enter on last day of visa validity you will be permitted to remain one year more from that date (as you will not have valid visa any further travel will require a re-entry permit to keep last permitted to stay alive).

[Tanoshi]

16 minutes ago, madisongy said:

Does the 1 year validity begin upon issuance of the visa, or upon first entry to Thailand?

Is the "enter before" date effectively the end of the first year of validity?

How many days before the "enter before" date will they grant another 1 year permission ?    

 

My plan would be to stay in Thailand for the first three 90 day reporting periods.   I'll depart just after the third reporting period, to the US for Christmas.   My thought was to stay in US for 10 weeks, so that I renter Thailand prior to the end of my first year of visa validity.   Are you saying that if I do this, they extend the visa automatically......no application, no fees......for an additional year?   

The 'enter before date' will be dated 1 year from the date of issuance.

The validity of the Visa is separate from the validity of permission to stay.

 

With your planned itinerary as long as you re-enter Thailand before the 'enter before' date of the Visa, you will be given 'permission to stay' for another year (no fees). The Visa will expire on the 'enter before' date (so will the multi entry condition) but your 'permission to stay' is still valid.

During this 2nd year of permission to stay you can continue to make 90 day reports at Immigration.

If however you want to exit/re-enter Thailand within this period you need to purchase a re-entry permit (single 1,000 baht, multiple 3,800 baht) which will keep your permission to stay valid.

When the Visa expires on the 'enter before' date, the multi entry condition of that Visa also expires.

[madisongy]

8 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Visa is valid for one year from date of issue - any entry during that time receives a one year permitted to stay stamp - so if you enter on last day of visa validity you will be permitted to remain one year more from that date (as you will not have valid visa any further travel will require a re-entry permit to keep last permitted to stay alive).

OK, if I'm following you correctly, the "enter before" date will be one year from date of issue, not the first arrival.....for example, enter before March 1, 2019.  If first arrival is March 15, 2018, I'm permitted to stay until March 15, 2019.   If my second arrival is June 15, 2018, I get a new permitted to stay stamp of June 15, 2019.   So if I plan for a final arrival of February 25, 2019 (before the enter before date of March 1, 2019), I'll have a new permitted to stay stamp until Feb 25, 2020.

Although I have a permitted to stay stamp of Feb 25, 2020, I will need a re-entry permit to depart/reenter any time between March 1, 2019 and Feb 25, 2020.

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, madisongy said:

OK, if I'm following you correctly, the "enter before" date will be one year from date of issue, not the first arrival.....for example, enter before March 1, 2019.  If first arrival is March 15, 2018, I'm permitted to stay until March 15, 2019.   If my second arrival is June 15, 2018, I get a new permitted to stay stamp of June 15, 2019.   So if I plan for a final arrival of February 25, 2019 (before the enter before date of March 1, 2019), I'll have a new permitted to stay stamp until Feb 25, 2020.

Although I have a permitted to stay stamp of Feb 25, 2020, I will need a re-entry permit to depart/reenter any time between March 1, 2019 and Feb 25, 2020.

That is correct.

[Tanoshi]

As an example of your posted plan.

Visa issued 26/2/2018. Enter before date 25/2/2019. (The validity of the Visa).

Enter Thailand 3/3/2018 - stamped permitted to stay until 2/3/2018. 

 

Exit Thailand 18/12/2018 to spend Xmas in US.

Enter Thailand 20/1/2019 - stamped permitted to stay until 19/1/2020.

 

Proposed visit to Vietnam 5/5/2019. (Visa expired 25/2/2019).

Purchase single re-entry permit 1,000 baht.

Enter Thailand 19/5/2019 - stamped permitted to stay until 19/1/2020. (The date you were last permitted to stay from your final entry to Thailand on the Visa).

 

If you wanted to maximise your permission to stay, you could do a border run (out/in) on 24/2/2019 and you would be given permission to stay until 23/2/2020.

 

 

[madisongy]

Usual thanks gents.   That's outstanding.   Daim, I hope I get this thing.

[ubonjoe]

13 minutes ago, madisongy said:

 Daim, I hope I get this thing.

I see no reason for you to not to get it.

A long as you have all the required document there would be no reason for them not to.

[Tanoshi]

1 hour ago, Tanoshi said:

Enter Thailand 3/3/2018 - stamped permitted to stay until 2/3/2018. 

 

Should be stamped permitted to stay until 2/3/2019.

[JoeBloe]

As a matter of passing interest, I got my medical certificate at Bumrungrad, they were well organised and efficient. They have their own form that includes the items in the embassy form, or they will complete the form the patient provides.

 

I was in and out in about an hour (but I was already a registered patient, so YMMV on that).

 

Total cost 650 THB

 

I used this for the application in my home country, the O-A multi visa has been issued