January 16, 200818 yr Most of you will know that i claimed my Irish citizenship, got the Irish passport and exercised my treaty right to have Mrs BoJangles live in the UK as a family member of an EU national. Well, she got it yesterday. Yabba dabba dooo I would like to publicly thank Scouse, who, without his skillful letter writing (those of you who have used his services will know what i mean) and advise, non of this i would have been able to do. Thanks Scouse A bit of the history:- We applied on 20th September and waited. By this time MrsBoJ Settlement Visa was due to expire but was told she could stay until the outcome of our application. Over Christmas, this guy from the Home Oriface in Croydon, who's English was quite frankly cr4p, called me asking questions. Many times i had to ask him to repeat what he said and many times he had to ask me to repeat myself. I thought <deleted>, i've lived in the UK all my life, paid taxes since i left school and served in the forces for this <deleted> country and i'm being interrogated by a fekking foreigner, who's English is no good, about whether my wife can live with me or not I was going to ask if he had passed the LITUK test but thought i better not On several occasions this guy told me that we should go for ILR instead and i told him NO. We don't want to as she hasn't passed the LITUK test because no one in the Home Office told us that they had changed the goal posts since she arrived. We would then have to pay for an extension and then pay again for ILR. So, no thanks, we'll go for the FREE option. All they where fretting about is there 750 smackers because this permit is free, gratis. He then said that we should have applied outside of the UK for the EU permit, what absolute utter twaddle, that is not stated anywhere. Anyway, i persisted and we got it yesterday (although on the letter it was granted last week). In fact, it took 6 days to get from his desk to the local post office and one day to get from the post office in Croydon to Manchester. Once again, thanks Scouse And if any of you have access to a dual national citizen of an EU country, i strongly advise that you do it this way. I never, ever thought my 25% Irish blood would come in so useful.
January 16, 200818 yr Excellent news! That's got to be worth a (free) pint or two down the D and P. Scouse.
January 16, 200818 yr It's nice to read that the pond life at Croydon did not get the better of you, congratulations! Guinness Scouse?
January 16, 200818 yr I never, ever thought my 25% Irish blood would come in so useful. The Irish have a history of helping the Brits out Well Done Jangles and Family Moss
January 16, 200818 yr Guinness Scouse? Although, in view of Mr. B.'s new-found Irishness, Guiness might be the most appropriate, I'm afraid it's never really tickled my fancy, so a pint or two of Belgium's finest is in order. Scouse.
January 16, 200818 yr Well done, Mr Bojangles Congratulations to you and yours ! a brilliant result ,one in the eye forthe borders and imm. jobsworths MY wife will be applying in a month or two and your good news has cheered us up no end.
January 16, 200818 yr Congratulationsss. Now you two can live happily after No more hassle and leave the country, visa runs up, so and so.
January 16, 200818 yr mrbojangles, although I do not know you in person, only from Bedlam, allow me to add my congratulations. It always makes me happy to see somebody win his fight against bureaucracy. -- Maestro The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place
January 17, 200818 yr Author Well done, Mr Bojangles Congratulations to you and yours ! a brilliant result ,one in the eye forthe borders and imm. jobsworths MY wife will be applying in a month or two and your good news has cheered us up no end. Cheers Ged, there is a feeling of great satisfaction i must admit Congratulationsss. Now you two can live happily after No more hassle and leave the country, visa runs up, so and so. Many thanks Legag mrbojangles, although I do not know you in person, only from Bedlam, allow me to add my congratulations. It always makes me happy to see somebody win his fight against bureaucracy.-- Maestro Thanks very much Maestro, although i can be very stubborn when i want to fight what i think is wrong, without the Scouser it wouldn't have been possible. P.S. I'm gonna report you in Random Posts
January 17, 200818 yr Author I never, ever thought my 25% Irish blood would come in so useful. The Irish have a history of helping the Brits out Well Done Jangles and Family Moss Well without the Irish, all the Chippies in England would have closed Cheers Moss
January 17, 200818 yr Author What a nice story. And bj being an Irishman, well I never... I still haven't bought my Arron sweater though
January 17, 200818 yr Author Nice one Jangles! Cheers buddy As for Maestro.... :shaking-head-smilie: ... Most Heinous!
January 19, 200818 yr Congrats Mr BJ. I am a little confused, however. Is the UK now not part of the EU? This seems a very convaluted route to have to take. Are they saying that Ireland is 'more European' because they have adopted the currency? Sorry if this has been covered before, but I am intrigued now, not that it really matters personally as I have no Irish relatives.
January 19, 200818 yr Well done Mr Boj. I went down that road with my missus and it worked a treat but my Irishness is 100%. You know what Wellington said about the Irish; they make dam n fine soldiers, provided they have white officers!
January 21, 200818 yr Congrats Mr BJ.I am a little confused, however. Is the UK now not part of the EU? This seems a very convaluted route to have to take. Are they saying that Ireland is 'more European' because they have adopted the currency? Sorry if this has been covered before, but I am intrigued now, not that it really matters personally as I have no Irish relatives. The basic principal is that an EU citizen's family has the right to be together if the EU citizen moves to and works in another EU country. The oddities are that the right isn't lost if he acquires the nationality of that country, if he returns home (Surinder Singh judgement), or was born in that other country. Thus having British citizenship would similarly be useful for a Dutchman in the Netherlands.
January 21, 200818 yr Author Congrats Mr BJ.I am a little confused, however. Is the UK now not part of the EU? This seems a very convaluted route to have to take. Are they saying that Ireland is 'more European' because they have adopted the currency? Sorry if this has been covered before, but I am intrigued now, not that it really matters personally as I have no Irish relatives. The basic principal is that an EU citizen's family has the right to be together if the EU citizen moves to and works in another EU country. The oddities are that the right isn't lost if he acquires the nationality of that country, if he returns home (Surinder Singh judgement), or was born in that other country. Thus having British citizenship would similarly be useful for a Dutchman in the Netherlands. Thanks for the congrats Sweetchariot and thanks Richard for explaining the technicalities
January 21, 200818 yr Author Congrats Bo - you fought the good fight... and won! Cheers Ping Well done Mr Boj.I went down that road with my missus and it worked a treat but my Irishness is 100%. You know what Wellington said about the Irish; they make dam n fine soldiers, provided they have white officers! cheers jennifer
January 21, 200818 yr Author Well done, Mr Bojangles nice to see you got there in the end Thankyou Pete We're going to be doing it again soon when we bring the step daughter over. Another big fee that remains in my bank account instead of the Governments
February 7, 200818 yr Author On another note. MrsBoJangles is pregnant and i'm over the moon. It's my first, so a tad nervous. But does that mean BabyJangles could have access to three citizenships? Thai, English and Irish ?
February 7, 200818 yr [The basic principal is that an EU citizen's family has the right to be together if the EU citizen moves to and works in another EU country. The oddities are that the right isn't lost if he acquires the nationality of that country, if he returns home (Surinder Singh judgement), or was born in that other country. Thus having British citizenship would similarly be useful for a Dutchman in the Netherlands. So if a UK citizen moves to France to work, then they could bring their Thai wife to France, then move back to the UK and have her come to the UK without having to go through the process normally to bring a Thai wife to the UK? I think soon the EU will be like the US. All of the current countries in the EU will be like the states in the US. That is how the US started originally, but then became a single country. Since they have a central EU government, have trade policies, immigration policies, courts, currency... I think it is only a matter of time until all the member states should lose their seats in the UN. They should just get one seat for the EU.
February 8, 200818 yr So if a UK citizen moves to France to work, then they could bring their Thai wife to France, then move back to the UK and have her come to the UK without having to go through the process normally to bring a Thai wife to the UK? Yes, that's the essence of the Surinder Singh case. I could have done with Wales getting independence from the UK.
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