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Just now, tribalfusion001 said:

Yep, complete rubbish on both sides. It amuses me to see the cr*p, it's also dangerous to set one side against the other.

Indeed. It makes you wonder who is really behind this. Extreme left, extreme right, white racists, black racists, Asian racists, religious bigots, etc etc.

This pot is being stirred up. Looking at which countries, ideologies, might benefit could give some clues. And not necessarily the obvious ones.

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

BLM is a protest group exercising their democratic rights.

 

 Try to dial down the hyperbole. 

They have a right to protest, peacefully, and in accordance with the law.

Some protesters are genuine. Others are political extremists, looters, and troublemakers who hide under the banner. What each % is is anyone's guess.

BLM "leaders", and how did they become leaders, have been identified as neo Marxists who believe racial justice can only be achieved through revolution and redistribution of wealth. A redistribution which would no doubt benefit themselves.

This movement is also brought out the vengeful, spiteful, chip on the shoulder anti white individuals who are just as nasty and racist as their white supremacy counterparts.

Reality isn't hyperbole. Sticking your head in the sand will likely get you shafted.

34 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

This was all over the far right Facebook groups last night, BLM are terrorists and conspiracy theories about the Reading murders.

Whereas in other FB groups and posts, all white people are racist oppressors and profited from the slave trade which only ever enslaved blacks by whites.

In other words, total nonsense. 

27 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

There was no violence in London yesterday and one of the protest organisers thanked the police for letting them demonstrate, the crowd clapped.

And the report also estimated 2,000 not 20,000.

She seems to have an high opinion of herself and vivid imagination!

4 hours ago, englishoak said:

Thug demands.... 

Self appointed "leader" of nobody who thinks she'll get some rewards out of it thug demands.

Hope the response is "obey the law, or get punished. Make threats, get arrested."

3 hours ago, stevenl said:

Yes, because when a Christian or non-believer kills it is a crazy act, when a muslim kills it is terrorism.

If the Christian or non-believer kills in order to push a political or ideological agenda it would be correctly labelled terrorism.

Why do you think Muslims should be treated differently?

The attacker is a black Muslim who murdered and seriously wounded random white people because of their skin colour and/or non Muslim status. 

Or perhaps you think he's simply mentally ill and it's just a coincidence all the victims were white non Muslims?

4 hours ago, vogie said:

Earlier the BBC said that security sources thought the man to be a Libyan, but the police have said they do not think it is terror related.

He is a 25 year old Libyan immigrant who has previously served a prion sentence - for an offense described as "minor" but not detailed.

A protest organized by Black Lives Matter. Shortly after it finishes a black Muslim attacks complete white strangers, only white people, with a knife, killing 3, seriously injury another 3 who might die, and would have carried on attacking people had he not been stopped by the police. One witness was quoted as saying the attacker was shouting something unintelligible whilst attacking.

And the police don't think it's terror related! 

33 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

After Trump is unceremoniously ushered out of DC in January, when he reluctantly and bitterly hands the reins over the a far more capable man, political scientists and opinion writers will spend years dissecting the mad experiment of the Trump presidency, when democracy was nearly lost to a wannabe despot rulers, who ignored the rule of law, at every opportunity.

 

He has succeeded on a few levels. He has made the US the laughing stock of the world. He has allowed the US to become the most radioactive nation on earth, with over 2 million Covid cases, many of which are directly attributed to his polices, his ignorance, his willingness to ignore multiple warmings by experts, and his hubris. Granted, the rest can be linked to the world's highest levels of heart disease, diabetes, and morbid obesity, combined with a horrific diet. He has severely eroded and nearly destroyed alliances that took decades to build. He has succeeded in allowing China to emerge from all of this looking strong and smart, and he has succeeded in making himself look like an out of touch fool, a relic, and a terrible leader. Barr has acted as his personal lawyer, and next year he too will unceremoniously depart Washington into a life of obscurity and ridicule. 

Biden capable 555555555555555!

He can't even remember his own lies now! 

6 hours ago, scorecard said:

Add, and in some countries their derelict idiot leaders strongly encouraged them to believe it was a hoax and to ignore the precautions. 

Indeed. They also didn't bother closing borders, checking arrivals or enforcing their own rules properly. 

Hard as it is for some to swallow, the Thai government acted far more competently than many other so called first world governments.

10 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

I am 100% in favour of prosecuting any and all found guilty of taking part in the Holocaust, no matter their age, no matter how minor the role. Any firms involved should be completely stripped of all assets. I really didn’t think anyone would be so dense as to need that explaining.
 

No idea what you are rambling on about with “purge for stardom”. 

Just to extrapolate your thinking. Certain large Japanese businesses still exist today. During WWII they manufactured armaments, airplanes etc that the Imperial Japanese used when inflicting gross war crimes - such as the rape of Nanking, the slaughter of ethnic Chinese in Singapore, the Death Railway, torture and murder of POW's. Similarly many large German businesses provided armaments and war equipment for the German military.

You are suggesting all these businesses, which supported regimes which committed gross crimes against humanity, should have all assets liquidated and the funds used to pay reparations? 

Do you think the Russians should pay for slaughtering Poles, Ukrainians, and various Cossack tribes to? The Turks for the Armenian genocide? 

All countries who at one time or another occupied other countries, used slave labour, carried out slaving should pay?

11 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

From the paper that supported slavery and the confederacy, they were right about Lincoln of course, that shyster never actually freed one slave, had 5 years to do it and it was not done until 8 months after he died

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8414917/Guardian-accused-hypocrisy-backing-BLM-protests-despite-branding-Abraham-Lincoln-abhorrent.html

Thanks for posting. 

A left wing rag full of hypocrisy and self righteousness while trying to lecture everyone else - how surprising 555!

Interesting just how many American leaders, POTUS, VPOTUS, prominent politicians and businessmen were slave owners; and supported the Jim Crow laws which kept freed slaves and their descendants  oppressed.

On 6/19/2020 at 5:41 PM, steve187 said:

cake and eat it springs to mind, lets give them money because hundreds of years ago their far distant relations, suffered hardship, so did the white Europeans that were treated as slaves, Romans conquered,  Egyptians used slave labour etc. history is full of countries being conquered and enslaved,  the past is the past just make the most of it, don't ask for hand outs

Interesting fact from a US Professor here. Barbary pirates raided European ships and coastlines to capture slaves for the Ottoman and other Islamic countries' slave markets. They were specifically told to target people from Christian countries.

Most slaves transported from Africa to the Caribbean and Americas were captured by fellow Africans as tribes raided different tribes to capture slaves for use and sale; or even sold by their own chiefs/kings. Will she be demanding reparations from them?

She and her cronies are focusing on one small sector of the slave trade. A small snapshot of this vile trade that is still rife today. Looks very much like they're looking for handouts.

How much have former colonial powers invested in these former colonies since independence and since the slavery was banned?

11 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

Glad that India took a stand against their aggressive neighbor.

 

We don't want any repeat of Tibet or Spratly Islands.

 

Sad to see only US took a stance and offered their condolences to India, European Nations should learn from this.

India are hardly bastions of honesty. Many regional countries regard them as the bully on the block. Notice not many regional countries rushed to support them.

When I lived in India Modi was head of the state of Gujarat when it exploded in religious violence. He lied through his teeth throughout the troubles. A senior policeman from the Punjarb had to be drafted in, with 3k of his own Punjarbi police to restore law and order.

Modi is an ultra Hindu nationalist.

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Like a deflection from the heinous crimes of white men and white civilization in just the past century? Why is it so hard for white men to take responsibility for the shortcomings of their race? 

Probably for the same reason as black men, yellow men, brown men, red men and any color you fancy won't take responsibility for the shortcomings of their race.

And why should anyone be held responsible for the actions of others?

5 minutes ago, jayboy said:

The absurd spate of cowardly virtue signalling needs to be mocked.I suspect your "arrogant prat" speaks for the overwhelming majority.The day that Keir Starmer fell to his knees was the day he lost the next election.

Indeed. It seems entertainers, mostly well paid rich ones, seem to think it's a good way to keep in the public eye and/or get more fans. Whilst politicians see it as a way of getting more votes.

All relatively well off, with nice standards of living.