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Does this rule apply only to foreigners?

The latest I read about it says "July 15" https://aseannow.com/topic/1328518-thailand-visa-exemption-60-days-and-visa-on-arrival-voa-15-days/?do=findComment&comment=19008511 Another recent estimate, by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, says " yen yen" https://aseannow.com/topic/1328520-5-year-multiple-entry-dtv-visa-destination-thailand-from-2024-xx-xx/?do=findComment&comment=18999888

Impossible to know at present.

@tac Your posts are confusing. Can you post a copy or a photo of the latest stamp in your passport that has the word "visa" on it? PS. No, forget that. Can you post a copy or a photo of the stamp that has the date of 29 July 2024 on it?

Removed an off-topic post and the reply to it.

There is already a topic running dedicated to the proposed increase of permission to stay for visa-exempt entries.

Please see Section 84 of the Immigration Act. It is the Settlement Committee, of which "the Commander of the Immigration Division or representative" is a member, that has the power "to authorize the inquiry official or the competent official to carry out settlement on its behalf", ie issue a fine, in accordance with the "criteria for settlement or any conditions as deemed fit" prescribed by the Settlement Committee. The English translation of Section 84 is a bit convoluted and you may want to take the Thai original of the Immigration Act and have a lawyer explain it to you.

You have quoted Section 76 of the Immigration Act correctly, but immigration officials are not authorised to issue penalties for contraventions of Section 37 under this section, only under Section 84.

The minimum fee for the failure to notify immigration of staying in Thailand longer than 90 days as required by Section 37(5) of the Immigration Act is not 2,000 Baht. This amount seems to be the fixed amount, not the minimum amount, an immigration official is allowed to fine under Section 84 of the Immigration Act. I say "seems to be" because I have been unable to find the document listing the "criteria for settlement or any conditions as deemed fit" mentioned in Section 84 or a link to it. Thank you for posting the link https://www.immigration.go.th/?page_id=1666. The following text on that page is false and the owner of the website could be sued for this under the Computer Crimes Act.

There seems to some misunderstanding here. Nobody is talking about extending an extension. With any type of multiple-entry visa, the traveller is granted, upon every entry into Thailand, a permission to stay for a specific period dependent on the type of visa. For the DTV under discussion, this period of permission to stay would be 180 days and can, if the traveller so wishes, be extended for 180 days.

Could it be that instead of the "visa expiration date", immigration wants the expiration date of your current extension of stay?

Topic now closed.

The latest update I saw a few days ago was that the government was still debating the DTV and that an announcement may be made in September, presumably of this year. In the meantime, we can all enjoy the amusement of the speculations of all kinds and the often false reports in the news media, blogs and social media.

You will find out soon enough, tomorrow when you pick up your passport. Who knows, perhaps something you said in your conversation with the immigration official gave him the impression that you wished to apply for a non-O visa for the reason of living with your Thai wife. If you have a copy of the application form you sumitted you can check what got written there.

Take also your old passport with you when you go to immigration. They will want to put some notes in your new passport about information in your old passport.

Are there really as many as 17 different categories of Non-immigrant Visas? I saw a list posted but I don't remember it being that long. Do they perhaps mean 17 clauses in the Police Order regarding extensions of stay referring to the one-year extension of the permission of stay received upon entry with a Non-immigrant Visa? It wouldn't be the first time that government people say visa when they mean extension of stay. It's all so perplexing; my head is spinning.

That's an interesting point you make. Foreigners with PR status are immigrants. I don't know if they get an Immigrant Visa stamped into the passport when their application for PR is approved, but every time they travel abroad, ie outside Thailand, they must make sure they have an Immigrant Visa, usually a Non-quota Immigrant Visa, in the passport and to retain their immigrant status they must return to Thailand before the expiration of the visa. By definition, therefore, any visa other than an Immigrant Visa is not an Immigrant Visa. Among these visas, there is a group called Non-immigrant Visas, clearly labelled as such in the visa stamp in the passport or the e-Visa document. Not all visas that are not Immigrant Visas are part of the group labelled Non-immigrant Visa. There are, for example, the Tourist Visa and the Visa on Arrival, and a number of other visas with fancy labels. The proposed reduction in the number of the categories of Non-immigrant Visas therefore presumably refers to the visas currently labelled Non-immigrant Visas, but experience has taught us that there is no way to know what will really be done in the end.

Removed an off-topic post (about Apple Inc.) and the replies to it.

There is this on https://thailand.prd.go.th/en/content/category/detail/id/48/iid/293120 Not much, I'm afraid.

You are right, Pattaya57, the website dtv.in.th/en is not formal, in the sense that it is not a website operated by an agency of the Thai government. What do we have from a "formal" website? The only thing I can remember is some text posted by a member, I believe it was George, from prd.go.th, if I remember correctly, the website of "The Government Public Relations Department", or perhaps it was an English translation of a Thai text on that site. It was quite a long text but there have been so many topics here on the proposed new changes to visa rules that I would not know where to start looking for it. So I now did a search of my own on prd.go.th an found https://thailand.prd.go.th/en/content/category/detail/id/48/iid/293120 from which I quote the following: We all can make of this what we want, interpret it any way we choose. All I can say is that we shan't know the full and final details until, if ever, the DTV is launched.

This is the form for aliens to notify their change of address: https://www.immigration.go.th/wp-content/uploads/simple-file-list2/form-download/1542264289117.pdf As I mentioned, some, perhaps most, immigration offices no longer enforce notification with this form TM.27 and instead are satisfied with the notification of the arrival of the foreigner with the form TM.30 submitted by the householder of the premise to which you move.

Section 37.2 or the Immigration Act requires you to notify immigration of your change. This is independent of the TM.30 notification under Section 38 by whoever is doing that notification. The immigration office has a special form for this. immigration_act_b.e._2522.pdf However, some immigration offices apparently no longer enforce this requirement, wherefore it is best for you to ask your immigration office how they handle this.

From the way I understand the OP, he has not yet moved to the new address.

Ah, now things ate getting clearer. Due to the scarcity of information in your opening post of this topic, I and, it seems also other readers, have made two mistakes: 1. I assumed that you were renting the dwelling to which you are moving; 2. I assumed that you were enquiring about the legal requirement of the notification of the arrival of a foreigner at a dwelling to be made by the householder, possessor or owner of the dwelling, in this forum generally referred to as the TM.30 report or the TM.30 notification, for short. I now ask you to ignore everything that I and others wrote about the TM.30 notification. Going back to square one and looking at the information you have actually provided so far, ie "... just changed my address...", "should I notify immigration immediately", and "I am not the owner of the new home. My partner is", your question is about the notification of your change of address to a new address within the area of responsibility of the same immigration office where you currently live. The deadline for complying with this legal requirement of notifying the immigration office of the change of address is the same regardless of whether or not the new address is within the area of responsibility of the same immigration office. I believe it is 24 hours but I am not sure. As not all immigration offices apply the rule in the same manner, you are best advised to contact the immigration office for guidance.

@MarcelV Officially, you should do it immediately but some immigration offices do not mind if it is done with the next 90-day report or the next extension of stay, whichever comes first. Best do it right away.