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You will travel to Thailand twice within a 12-month period. A multiple-entry tourist visa (METV) will not give you permission to stay for two months with every visit but it will give you 60 days. These 60 days will cover your Feb-Mar visit. If you need a full two months for the Oct-Nov visit, you can get a 30-day extension of stay for THB 1,900 No insurance is needed to get the METV.

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@ewelve Have you contacted your credit card issuer to suspend or cancel the card and to claim the visa fee back?

I think it is in good hands with the British police. If necessary, they will co-ordinate with the Thai police.

I believe I used thai2english.com to split term up into parts to try and get a feeling for the meaning. ใช้ชีวิต [to] live ; spend one's life ; make a living ใน in;of บั้นปลาย last part; last section

There is a well-founded suspicion that the website of the Thai embassy in London may have been hijacked by spammers.

It is necessary to show your passport when you check in for your flight.

The crazy – nay, ridiculous – part is that the e-visa application site makes you upload a copy of the ID page of your passport, yet still make you type in your name, passport number, birth date, and other details that could be filled in automatically using the data in the machine-readable code at the bottom of that passport page, and after having collected that duplication of data the program does not automatically compare it and alert you of any error. And they call it Thailand 4.0, whatever they mean with it.

That is: the law only specifically excludes those on transit or tourist visas. Other restrictions are as prescribed by the Minister, and are subject to change without needing cabinet approval, but must be published in the Government Gazette... Generally, some sections of a law ask the competent Ministry to issue regulations, as you mention, and sometimes a Ministerial regulations asks or authorises a department to issue more detailed rules. The requirement shown in Section 11(1) of the Alien Working Act, "having been permitted entry into the Kingdom for temporary stay under the law on immigration but not as tourist or in transit" is worded as follows at the top of this list of necessary qualifications issued by the DoE:

Provide full details. Like: 1. I do not know whether I will be offered a job and if I am, whether I will accept it. 2. I do not know whether I will buy a motor-car. 3. I do not know whether I will get an ingrown nail on the big toe of my left foot. 4. I do not know whether I will get married. 5. etc. The immigration official needs to know the details relevant to the application for extension. These details are provided with the long list of documents requested by the immigration office. It is not for the applicant to try and guess what additional details might be relevant for processing the application.

Transcript of court hearing so far - part 1.pdf Defence lawyer to the Judge: Background information for the readers Police Order 327/2557 (2014) en https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNib_gx9zYEVXkyUDRsMEFxdTg/view?usp=drive_link&resourcekey=0-EFp3YZ6b2SABP1cMdpDhJQ Police Order 327/2557 (2014) th https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FKhOtv4HCNOP6z0uWiAhpwj_flwhxMEm/view?usp=drive_link Guidelines - en https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?p=14714#e9ae55b4e215256d0

No visa allows employment, regardless whether or not is has the statement EMPLOYMENT PROHIBITED. A work permit allows employment. We should stop talking about visas. But we can ponder why we have not, until now, read in this forum about confirmed and verified cases where a foreigner on a retirement extension, ie on a permission to stay granted for the reason of retirement, obtained a work permit. Do foreigners with this status not apply for work permits? Do prospective employers of foreigners with this status not consider helping with the application for a work permit unless the foreigner gives up his retirement extension status? How many confirmed and verified cases have we seen, say over the past twelve months, about the DoE refusing a work permit to a foreigner on a retirement extension? (Cases where the employer said it was not possible, without having tried it, don't count) There is one report in this topic by a man on a retirement extension who inquired at the DoE about getting a work permit to allow him to help his with with the work on her farm and was told that it was not possible. Of course it was not possible, a work permit cannot be issued for his farm work. Nothing to do with his retirement extension.

Thank you. I have rephrased the prosecutor's opening address to the judge in this hypothetical court case in legal jargon as shown below. I am rather busy right now but plan to formulate and post the defence lawyer's response tomorrow. Prosecutor to the judge: Background information for the readers

I have removed more off-topic posts and will continue to do so, from now on without posting a note about it every time. If anyone feels that a post in this topic was removed in error, please send me a PM and I shall review it and give a detailed explanation.

That's an interesting point. Let's, for a start, look at the chronology of this particular case. 1. Application at immigration for one-year extension of stay with the form TM.7 and taking into account point 22 of the guidelines of the Bureau of Immigration. On the line "Reason of extension", the applicant writes "Retirement". (The application gets approved) 2. Application at the DoE for a work permit, with submission all required documents. (The application gets approved and the work permit is issued) Now, let's analyse where the commitment of fraud might have occurred. You play the part of the prosecutor and I play the part of the defence lawyer. Ready, steady, go! You may want to rephrase your accusation of fraud and cite the relevant section of the relevant Thai law, in the English translation known as the Criminal Code, sometimes also called the Penal Code. As with all legal matters, where a discrepancy in interpretation arises, the original Thai text applies and for this reason I give also the link to the original Thai text of the Criminal Code. (There may have been amendments to the law which are not reflected in the liked documents)

Thank for for doing that search on the DoE website. Immigration officials have no legal or regulatory authority to issue a fine to to this work permit holder or to any foreigner in general for any alleged violation of the laws and regulation regarding work by foreigners in Thailand. Their authority to issue fines is governed — and limited — by section 84 of the Immigration Act and rules and regulations established under the authority of that section.

Removed some more off-topic posts. I am not going to the beginning of this topic and remove all off-topic posts and replies to them from that point forward, but let's stay on topic from here on. So, what posts are on topic? 1. Posts confirming that a foreigner on a retirement extension has recently applied for and received a work permit. 2. Posts commenting on whether or not the Department of Employment (DoE) now has the legal and regulatory authority to issue a work permit to a foreigner who is on a retirement extension, with links to the information on relevant government websites. 3. Posts commenting whether or not the DoE did not, in the past, have the legal and regulatory authority to issue a work permit to a foreigner who is on a retirement extension, with links to the information on relevant government websites. 4. Posts confirming that in the past, a foreigner on a retirement extension applied for and and was denied a work permit for the reason that his permission to stay was based on a retirement extension.

It is for the "Tourist Single Entry Visa". Here is the link to the corresponding page on the website of the Thai embassy in London once more: https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/tourist-single-entry-visa

Regarding financial evidence, the following is what the website says (but readers beware, the e-visa application process may state a different requirement):

Correct. This is what the list of requirements for a tourist visa application says on the website of the Thai embassy in London: A copy of the passport pages covering the past 12 months seems indeed the most logical way to provide these records.

Is the PNR you mention the 6-digit alphanumeric code that on a Singapore Airlines ticket of mine looks like this (partially pixelated):

How can you verify yourself that the flight reservation confirmation or the e-ticket you have gives a real PNR (passenger name record)?

That's what boggles my mind. When a TM.30 has been filed notifying the arrival of a foreigner and this foreigner subsequently needs a service from an immigration office, the official asks for proof that the notification was made. Why is this necessary? Are these notifications not registered in a database and do immigration officials who need to verify that a notification has been made not have access to this database?

In this case, clause 2.20(5) of the Police Order does not apply to you parents. A multiple-entry tourist visa (METV) would cover the 124 days with two entries and one 30-day extension.

Depending on your own status of permission to stay your parents may get a one-year extension of stay for THB 1,900. Care to post what your status is? Alternatively, figure it out yourself with this document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNib_gx9zYEYkFjMUNHV1pXdWs/view?usp=drive_link&resourcekey=0-HbhenggAPK_pepIDEzdVCA